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track_warrior 05-07-2012 12:34 PM
FR-S VS Mustang MASHUP
 
I did not see it posted here so though it would share it!!

Mustang VS FR-S From TFLC

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIOXuLuQE8s&feature=g-all-u"]2013 Ford Mustang vs Scion FR-S Mashup Drive & Review - YouTube[/ame]

Dadhawk 05-07-2012 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by pcasso87 (Post 203032)
I did not see it posted here so though it would share it!!
That red Mustang does look sweet! I really need to convince my wife she needs a new one, but I'd like to see the upcoming new model first.

I do agree with him on one thing, driving an American muscle car does have a different feel to it for me. Everytime I see a Camaro my North Carolina heritage kicks in and I want one to go with (not replace) the FR-S.

dsgerbc 05-07-2012 01:30 PM
Argh, that's some ugly interlacing in that video in 1080p. Someone should get slapped for that.

Subaruwrxfan 05-07-2012 01:43 PM
Ugh, these guys again. All they did was take footage from the FR-S review and stuff from they're Mustang review and then try and make a new "comparison" video. These guys suck. Video interlacing is the least of their worries.

dsgerbc 05-07-2012 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Subaruwrxfan (Post 203098)
Video interlacing is the least of their worries.
Might be, but I quit watching after a few seconds ;)

Draco-REX 05-07-2012 01:55 PM
He wanted a relaxed ride in a bigger car. Well of course the FR-S isn't the car he'd choose then. Make me wonder why he chose to compare it to the mustang. That's like comparing Ice Cream and Steak and saying "well, I think I'll go with the steak since it's meatier and not sweet." Duh.

He's also the ONLY reviewer to call the FR-S or BRZ "sterile" and uncommunicative.

They clocked the FR-S with two people in it. Even his buddy felt the need to point out the time wasn't fair.

He wanted to choose the Mustang from the start. Not exactly an unbiased review.

Grateful Dave 05-07-2012 02:16 PM
:laughabove:A blown launch on a 0-60 test.oops!
Good quotes "the frs kicks ass" "Give me more, I feel like a superstar""worth $25000 you bet it is worth $25000 and probably more." plus others.
But when in comparison to the other cars in it's class
"A little bit sterile, does everything well but a lack of engagement, a lack of charm"
Just seemed odd to me.:confused0068:
The FR-S/GT86 is so sensual with it's sculpted fertile body and great engineering. It's a work of art.
I can't wait to drive one and find out about it's engagement.:happyanim:

Dadhawk 05-07-2012 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Grateful Dave (Post 203137)
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The FR-S/GT86 is so sensual with it's sculpted fertile body and great engineering. It's a work of art.
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I agree with you on your description, but if you're a person that likes pure American muscle cars (as the reviewer seems to be) his opinion on the body style is probably accurate for is preferred style.

Different strokes for different folks I'd say...

Spaceywilly 05-07-2012 02:39 PM
"Sterile and uncommunicative" talk about the pot calling the kettle black... this video sucked

Rampage 05-07-2012 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 203111)
He wanted a relaxed ride in a bigger car. Well of course the FR-S isn't the car he'd choose then. Make me wonder why he chose to compare it to the mustang. That's like comparing Ice Cream and Steak and saying "well, I think I'll go with the steak since it's meatier and not sweet." Duh.

He's also the ONLY reviewer to call the FR-S or BRZ "sterile" and uncommunicative.

They clocked the FR-S with two people in it. Even his buddy felt the need to point out the time wasn't fair.

He wanted to choose the Mustang from the start. Not exactly an unbiased review.
Nah, Evo said something similar about the BRZ. Of course, that was an automatic. The consensus seems to be that the car is an absolute blast to drive on the track but a little boring as a street/ daily driver. Completely understandable because on the street most sane people will not (or at least should not) come anywhere near approaching the limits of the FR-S. The Mustang also has gobs of torque and the FR-S is somewhat lacking which means you have to stir the shifter more in the FR-S and it will not feel nearly as powerful. People who like the torque of Mustangs, 370Zs and WRXs are going to think the FR-S feels like a wet noodle. People who like ITRs, S2000, Mazda Miata, 2000-2005 Celica GTS, Civic Si are going to "get" and love the high RPM motor in the FR-S plus enjoy a better torque curve than they ever had.

Different strokes for different folks.

Bristecom 05-07-2012 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 203166)
I agree with you on your description, but if you're a person that likes pure American muscle cars (as the reviewer seems to be) his opinion on the body style is probably accurate for is preferred style.

Different strokes for different folks I'd say...
And that's why this isn't a fair comparison. If they love big American muscle cars then of course they'll prefer the Mustang over the FR-S. The FR-S is for a newer generation that prefers sleeker styling and nimble handling. I personally hate muslce cars. I think they're ugly and I cannot stand feeling the extra mass shifting around. It feels like I've become a fat person. I want a car that fits like a glove and feels athletic!

Spaceywilly 05-07-2012 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bristecom (Post 203223)
And that's why this isn't a fair comparison. If they love big American muscle cars then of course they'll prefer the Mustang over the FR-S. The FR-S is for a newer generation that prefers sleeker styling and nimble handling. I personally hate muslce cars. I think they're ugly and I cannot stand feeling the extra mass shifting around. It feels like I've become a fat person. I want a car that fits like a glove and feels athletic!
I wouldn't say it's a generational thing, just different preferences. I think the Mustang and the FRS/BRZ both appeal to the same age groups, just different people in those age groups.

Bristecom 05-07-2012 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Rampage (Post 203216)
Nah, Evo said something similar about the BRZ. Of course, that was an automatic. The consensus seems to be that the car is an absolute blast to drive on the track but a little boring as a street/ daily driver. Completely understandable because on the street most sane people will not (or at least should not) come anywhere near approaching the limits of the FR-S. The Mustang also has gobs of torque and the FR-S is somewhat lacking which means you have to stir the shifter more in the FR-S and it will not feel nearly as powerful. People who like the torque of Mustangs, 370Zs and WRXs are going to think the FR-S feels like a wet noodle. People who like ITRs, S2000, Mazda Miata, 2000-2005 Celica GTS, Civic Si are going to "get" and love the high RPM motor in the FR-S plus enjoy a better torque curve than they ever had.

Different strokes for different folks.
Very good point. Which makes me wonder how much I'll like the engine coming from turbocharged inline-4's and NA V6's. I am to the point now where I just need to drive this car. One reviewer says they like one thing while the other says they don't. So I guess only I can be the final judge of it.

Bristecom 05-07-2012 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Spaceywilly (Post 203231)
I wouldn't say it's a generational thing, just different preferences. I think the Mustang and the FRS/BRZ both appeal to the same age groups, just different people in those age groups.
Well yeah, of course everyone is different and there are exceptions. Like there are still a lot of younger guys who like muscle cars but they're mostly rednecks around here. :lol:
But the newer gen grew up with foreign sports cars and don't have as much of a tie to the old American muscle cars which these newer cars try to replicate/relive. Just like there aren't many Japanese or Europeans who want Mustangs and Camaros - they don't mean anything to them unless they happen to like big, boxy, powerful cars.

Dadhawk 05-07-2012 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bristecom (Post 203223)
And that's why this isn't a fair comparison. If they love big American muscle cars then of course they'll prefer the Mustang over the FR-S. The FR-S is for a newer generation that prefers sleeker styling and nimble handling. I personally hate muslce cars. I think they're ugly and I cannot stand feeling the extra mass shifting around. It feels like I've become a fat person. I want a car that fits like a glove and feels athletic!
Understood, and that is why a review by you of the two cars would be different.

That doesn't make either right or wrong, just intended for a different audience.

Me, I'd like to own both so I could drive the one that fit my mode that morning. My review of them would have stated something like:

"Which one is better? Neither. On price, fuel economy, and "wow factor" I consider them equals. On days when I want to buzz around town, making a little noise and feeling like I'm controlling a raging animal full of torque, I drive the Mustang. On days when I want to feel more refined and understated, or tear up the twisties, I take the FR-S. You really can't go wrong with either. But, please, don't ask me to drive a hot hatch, I might just have to slap you."

Bristecom 05-07-2012 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 203257)
Understood, and that is why a review by you of the two cars would be different.

That doesn't make either right or wrong, just intended for a different audience.

Me, I'd like to own both so I could drive the one that fit my mode that morning. My review of them would have stated something like:

"Which one is better? Neither. On price, fuel economy, and "wow factor" I consider them equals. On days when I want to buzz around town, making a little noise and feeling like I'm controlling a raging animal full of torque, I drive the Mustang. On days when I want to feel more refined and understated, or tear up the twisties, I take the FR-S. You really can't go wrong with either. But, please, don't ask me to drive a hot hatch, I might just have to slap you."
LOL, and I would have given that review a thumbs up. :thumbsup:

reni 05-07-2012 03:58 PM
Conclusion: if you're fat, old, don't know how to drive a stick, and driving a ubiquitous car makes you feel "cool", get the Mustang.

jkonquer 05-07-2012 04:02 PM
he hit the spot right on. it doesn't matter how much hp, weights, or how much suspension gadget it has. in the end you can only compare a car by price range. And i believe mustang v6 is actually a faster car in the price range.

luxmn 05-07-2012 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by reni (Post 203299)
Conclusion: if you're fat, old, don't know how to drive a stick, and driving a ubiquitous car makes you feel "cool", get the Mustang.
did you just call the mustang fat??

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damn i agree :lol:

in my mind mustang is lean, long hood, sharp lines, like an arrow, like this

http://www.mustangspecs.com/carpics/67fastback.jpg

and i think im non-biased (or you can call me dont know shit whatever) because I didn't grow up with Mustang, I didn't come to the US until I'm 17.

The new mustang, it's like when Japanese was learning how to make muscle car.

Look at the relax stance of that 67 Stang and tells me if the FRS doesn't resemble more.

Flame me :popcorn:

blu_ 05-07-2012 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jkonquer (Post 203305)
he hit the spot right on. it doesn't matter how much hp, weights, or how much suspension gadget it has. in the end you can only compare a car by price range. And i believe mustang v6 is actually a faster car in the price range.
Its also a car I would never consider buying for a number of reasons.

Snoopyalien24 05-07-2012 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 203111)
He wanted a relaxed ride in a bigger car. Well of course the FR-S isn't the car he'd choose then. Make me wonder why he chose to compare it to the mustang. That's like comparing Ice Cream and Steak and saying "well, I think I'll go with the steak since it's meatier and not sweet." Duh.

He's also the ONLY reviewer to call the FR-S or BRZ "sterile" and uncommunicative.

They clocked the FR-S with two people in it. Even his buddy felt the need to point out the time wasn't fair.

He wanted to choose the Mustang from the start. Not exactly an unbiased review.
He also said the FR-S only competition was the BRZ... -___-' lul

jkonquer 05-07-2012 05:02 PM
oh me too, im going to enjoy my brz very much.

Turbowned 05-07-2012 05:35 PM
All this tells me is that the new Mustang is finally a GOOD CAR. It doesn't make me want to buy it over the FR-S/BRZ, though.

315FR-S 05-12-2012 01:51 AM
he says it kicks ass and makes him feel like a superstar(while smiling and laughing i noticed) but he then says it lacks engagement? huh? and the times for both cars were a bit slow. biased review. it really does come down to personal preference in the end. we've seen enough reviews to know what to expect in the car. i think we're all just watching the vids/reviews to see the twins in motion =p


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