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Decisis 01-27-2014 02:53 PM

Notchy Shifting
 
Looking for some advice here since I'm not as mechanically inclined.

So I've had my car for about a couple months now only 950 miles on it. I'm noticing that the shifting feels odd and like there's something in the way (notchy) as some would put it. Is the transmission notorious for that? It's most noticeable going from 1st, 2nd, to 3rd gear.

I mean the car goes into gear fine and it drives... just kind of concerned if it'll be a growing problem. The gears were grinded once by my dad who hasn't driven stick in 5 years and the grinding lasted about 5 seconds, even then I don't think it should ruin the synchros after one incident... should I have it checked out or is this normal? If I need to I'm hoping warranty would cover something like this.

wparsons 01-27-2014 03:05 PM

Mine was pretty notchy for the first 1500-2000km's, it definitely gets better with some miles on it.

Mine has almost 50k km's now, and is still notchy into 2nd when it's cold, but once the fluids are warm it's fine.

jamesm 01-27-2014 03:19 PM

get a weighted shift knob. it made a world of difference, and pretty much solved the notchiness completely for me (though i already had the mtec shift springs i doubt that had an effect).

Decisis 01-27-2014 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesm (Post 1483416)
get a weighted shift knob. it made a world of difference, and pretty much solved the notchiness completely for me (though i already had the mtec shift springs i doubt that had an effect).

Was thinking about doing that! Thanks guys, looks like I'm not the only one and probably flipping over something common

MightyMeeple 01-27-2014 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decisis (Post 1483773)
Was thinking about doing that! Thanks guys, looks like I'm not the only one and probably flipping over something common

Check this out:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=553

Knotchy shifting solved. Another groupbuy will be happening soon per Anarachy Motive!

humfrz 01-27-2014 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decisis (Post 1483330)
Looking for some advice here since I'm not as mechanically inclined...

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Hello Decisis .... http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...mages/wave.gif

Many have reported notchy shifts, especially 1 to 2.

Does your transmission shift smoother when it's warm?

They usually smooth out with more use.

Some folks change the transmission fluid and find it shifts smoother.

A gear grind or two shouldn't mess up a transmission.

I hope you ger er smoothed out .. :)

no1r 01-27-2014 05:26 PM

This is as designed. :) No worries. Heavier shift knob will help the issue as other have pointed out.

wheelhaus 01-27-2014 05:30 PM

Part of the notchy shift feel is due to 1st, 2nd, and 3rd having triple cone synchros. They are much beefier and can handle more abuse, but as a result they feel more mechanical. The other part is because the shift mechanism is a direct mount to the transmission case, so there are no cables or additional connections to mask the mechanical feel. If the synchros are failing and not doing their job, the affected gear would begin to grind more and more frequently when selected.

AllStar0419 01-29-2014 01:52 AM

Transmission fluid change to motul gear and mtec shift springs were the cure for my notchy shifter

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akyp 01-29-2014 02:05 AM

It gets better after break-in and some WOT redline shifting. :burnrubber: Mine still has the factory fluid (because I can't find a shop that carries Motul or Pentosin) and now only the 1st gear is notchy. The rest are smooth as butter after warm up.

Vlady 01-29-2014 02:13 AM

Gets better with miles as most have said on here. But def helps with rear shifter bushing and tranny bushing. I have kartboy rear bushing and whiteline tranny bushing. Also totally agree with tranny fluid swap:)

fazm 01-29-2014 07:19 PM

A rear shifter bushing also helps smooth it out and make shifts feel a bit more solid.

Ramster 01-29-2014 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyMeeple (Post 1483796)
Check this out:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=553

Knotchy shifting solved. Another groupbuy will be happening soon per Anarachy Motive!

I just received my from the group buy and it makes a HUGE difference. I would definitely recommend one of these along with a fluid change as someone already suggested.

The knotchy shifting isn't completely gone, but it's a non issue now in my opinion.

no1r 01-30-2014 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramster (Post 1489818)
I just received my from the group buy and it makes a HUGE difference. I would definitely recommend one of these along with a fluid change as someone already suggested.

The knotchy shifting isn't completely gone, but it's a non issue now in my opinion.

I am convinced that what feeling is left, is just how its designed. No reason to worry anymore :) That said, feels good, worth the weight.

Mikem53 01-30-2014 10:26 AM

Be patient.. It gets better with time and use.. No need to attempt to fix something that isn't broke..

marsh 02-06-2014 02:47 PM

i had the same issue, i took it back many times to toyota. they changed oil etc.

eventually they agreed there was a problem, and took my car for 8 weeks, and there was a syncro issue and they had the parts sent from japan and then gearbox rebuilt.

in is much better than it was before, it was so annoying to drive, especially when it was cold. toyota service was shit as i said it from the day i got the car home it didnt feel right. but i persisted as people kept saying it was normal. i was sometimes unable to get it into gear e.g going from 3-2gear and 1-2gear. i was just not using that gear in the end which wasnt how it should be. the service department said just force it in.. i didnt thank gawd but it proves how smart they really are

they replaced the 2nd and 3rd gear syncro rings and replaced 1, 2,3 4 hub assembly

after waiting 8 weeks for the car back, got a letter to say it needed a service now. somehow they couldnt have done that in the 8 weeks they had the car..

KONVERTER 02-06-2014 11:17 PM

Stop pressing your clutch pedal all the way to the floor. Only needs to go about half way.

andrew5826 02-07-2014 01:04 AM

grinding for 5 seconds? that sounds painful. my shifter was notchy at first but it loosened up after some use. I actually had a lighter shift knob and the notchy mechanical feeling was still there compared to stock but it seemed to glide into the gates and click into gear better than stock. I have a heavier shift knob now and although it masks the notchyness it doesnt seem to glide into the gates and click as well as the lighter shift knob did

Quote:

Originally Posted by KONVERTER (Post 1510526)
Stop pressing your clutch pedal all the way to the floor. Only needs to go about half way.

sounds risky. adjust ur clutch travel for the same effect

Decisis 02-07-2014 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KONVERTER (Post 1510526)
Stop pressing your clutch pedal all the way to the floor. Only needs to go about half way.

I guess that's possible since our engagement point is a bit high up but I think that's kinda iffy?...

Hawaiian 02-07-2014 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marsh (Post 1509087)
i had the same issue, i took it back many times to toyota. they changed oil etc.

eventually they agreed there was a problem, and took my car for 8 weeks, and there was a syncro issue and they had the parts sent from japan and then gearbox rebuilt.

in is much better than it was before, it was so annoying to drive, especially when it was cold. toyota service was shit as i said it from the day i got the car home it didnt feel right. but i persisted as people kept saying it was normal. i was sometimes unable to get it into gear e.g going from 3-2gear and 1-2gear. i was just not using that gear in the end which wasnt how it should be. the service department said just force it in.. i didnt thank gawd but it proves how smart they really are

they replaced the 2nd and 3rd gear syncro rings and replaced 1, 2,3 4 hub assembly

after waiting 8 weeks for the car back, got a letter to say it needed a service now. somehow they couldnt have done that in the 8 weeks they had the car..

There's something wrong with my trans. I've taken it to 2 different dealers, and they try to pin it on "hard shifting," but with my clutch fully depressed I have the synchros grind in second gear regularly no matter how slow I shift. I even heard the tech grind while downshifting from 6th to 5th and he just ignored it.

chas3wba0 02-07-2014 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KONVERTER (Post 1510526)
Stop pressing your clutch pedal all the way to the floor. Only needs to go about half way.

And how exactly would that solve the notchy shifting issue? o_O


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