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Marloon 05-01-2012 05:31 AM

Canadian FRS vs. BRZ
 
I know we have been doing this within some of the threads so we might as well hammer it out here...

I am still unsure as to which one I would buy. I'm at a point that I am getting sick of my back and forth attitude that I might just deal with the idea, "whatever I get first is the one I am getting".

That's my take - what's your take on it?

Do you think people took on the pre-order just to be the first ones to drive the car? Or do you really think that they are going to get the car? Because I don't want a test driven car. :(

Enemies 05-01-2012 06:08 AM

I doubt too many people tied up $500 for months just so they could test drive it. I think the vast majority of people who put down $500 have a sincere interest in the car. Some of them may change their mind after the test drive but I don't think that will be common.

Imo it's better to have a lightly test-driven car that people decided not to buy (and be moved closer to the top of the list) than have everybody buy it who was interested and have it take months to get the car.

I was hoping my dealership would get another car in advance of mine for one simple reason. I don't want a bunch of staff (and maybe friends of staff) taking my car for a drive. I don't know how common that is when a new car comes out. I think when somebody special orders in a car it should have very low kilometers on it.

I'll be interested to see what everybody's KM's are at when they finally see their car for the first time.

Enemies 05-01-2012 06:15 AM

Also, as for the versus... I think your best bet is to do up a comparison spreadsheet of the interior/exterior differences of FR-S/Premier/Sport Tech.

Personally the features matter more to me than the small style differences. Like when people mention the silver dash it seems like such a small thing to me since people have mentioned in threads time and time again how easy it would be to do things to it like wrapping it to give it a better look. And it's a neat little side project.

How do you turn the A/C knobs from the FR-S or the Premier into a nice little side project?

I don't really like the whole FR-S vs. BRZ debate since I really like both cars. But there definitely are differences between the two. I'm actually a little surprised that you're not leaning more towards one than the other.

Blue FRS 05-01-2012 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Enemies (Post 196705)
I was hoping my dealership would get another car in advance of mine for one simple reason. I don't want a bunch of staff (and maybe friends of staff) taking my car for a drive. I don't know how common that is when a new car comes out. I think when somebody special orders in a car it should have very low kilometers on it.

I'll be interested to see what everybody's KM's are at when they finally see their car for the first time.

I was told that a car can have up to 800 KM and it can still be called new.

7thgear 05-01-2012 09:53 AM

my Scion dealership (Dufferin/Steeles) told me that no one is to drive my pre-ordered car except me.


i was also informed (as per my other thread) that each Scion dealership WILL get 1 automatic tester car.

Slartibartfast 05-01-2012 10:34 AM

Yup... We're getting the tester on Monday the 7th from 6:00 untill 9:00 in Guelph. All are welcome to come by. (OMG I get to drive one in six days, it kinda feels like Christmas)

Yes, it's an automatic, but that makes sense I guess. If it were a manual, would its clutch last for the whole tour? Also, not everybody can drive stick. Part of me is looking forward to trying the paddle shifter... I've heard it's quite good. Wouldn't want to buy one myself, but fun to try it out.

I think it makes a lot of sense doing it this way. For a car like this, you wouldn't want YOUR car to have been thrashed by a test pilot before you.
BTW... We do not allow ANYONE drive a car that someone else has money down on. I think this is standard practice at most dealerships. At least I hope it is.

As for FR-S vs BRZ, I can't help you there. Working for Toyota/Scion I've not seriously thought about getting the Subaru. The only real difference for me would be the leather. But, if I were getting leather, I would have it done custom tan leather. Black FR-S with tan leather would look great.

Can I open my present yet Mr Claus? Bugger... Six more sleeps.

Enemies 05-01-2012 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Slartibartfast (Post 196793)
Yup... We're getting the tester on Monday the 7th from 6:00 untill 9:00 in Guelph.

Not to be a dummy but... AM or PM? It'd kinda be funny if people showed up at the wrong one... I would personally assume PM and be pissed if I missed it... You know, if I wasn't a 3 days drive away. :P

It'd be kind of funny seeing some people lining up at 5:30 in the morning though if it indeed was 6 at night.

CoryUyede 05-01-2012 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Marloon (Post 196697)
I know we have been doing this within some of the threads so we might as well hammer it out here...

I am still unsure as to which one I would buy. I'm at a point that I am getting sick of my back and forth attitude that I might just deal with the idea, "whatever I get first is the one I am getting".

That's my take - what's your take on it?

Do you think people took on the pre-order just to be the first ones to drive the car? Or do you really think that they are going to get the car? Because I don't want a test driven car. :(

Wow marlon, youre really racking your brain over this one ...i dint blame you. Im going a little crazy too. My problem is more brz vs keeping the wrx. I dont recommend you just get whatever comes first, youll regret that later.

Slartibartfast 05-01-2012 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Enemies (Post 196923)
Not to be a dummy but... AM or PM? It'd kinda be funny if people showed up at the wrong one... I would personally assume PM and be pissed if I missed it... You know, if I wasn't a 3 days drive away. :P

It'd be kind of funny seeing some people lining up at 5:30 in the morning though if it indeed was 6 at night.


Oops... I don't want to get up at 5:00AM to go to work. It's 6:00PM to 9:00pm. We can go for beer and wings at Turtle Jacks after (it's next door)
:happy0180:

Marloon 05-01-2012 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CoryUyede (Post 197088)
Wow marlon, youre really racking your brain over this one ...i dint blame you. Im going a little crazy too. My problem is more brz vs keeping the wrx. I dont recommend you just get whatever comes first, youll regret that later.


I was really thinking about it earlier today as I put another pre-order in at docksteader Subaru.

The front of the FR-S really doesn't make me want to take a double take as I lock up my car and leave for work. I stood at the dealership looking at the whiteout for so long, taking tons of pictures to see which angle makes the car look great in. At some angles, it didn't look any good and i think its because of the cheaper headlights placed on this car to drive down the cost, and the lack of the fog light assembly - i am just used to cars having fogs. I also don't like the climate controls on the car. If they spent a little bit more money, i would have really appreciated that. Also, the Altezza styled lights in the rear are lame and dated. It should have just been all covered in red.

On the other hand, i do like the rear body curve. I think i've just made my decision as to which car i will go with. I am going to go for the BRZ SS. Now its just color lol. Either WSP or WRB.

And now, i am going buy the white BRZ SS DV1. There. Watch me walk away with a blue one lol...

I realized that I'll keep the car for 2 years so i might as well have fun with it. :D

CoryUyede 05-01-2012 09:17 PM

sweet...well at least you have your mind made up..for today :)


If i do end up Getting the BRZ, i'm 100% without a doubt getting the WRB, so you should get the SWP, so we don't clash at the meets!..lol :D

Enemies 05-01-2012 10:45 PM

Marloon picked the same car as me. What are the chances... From all those many options!

CoryUyede 05-01-2012 10:55 PM

i don't think he's decided on color yet...?

Enemies 05-01-2012 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Marloon (Post 197425)
On the other hand, i do like the rear body curve. I think i've just made my decision as to which car i will go with. I am going to go for the BRZ SS. Now its just color lol. Either WSP or WRB.

And now, i am going buy the white BRZ SS DV1. There. Watch me walk away with a blue one lol...

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Originally Posted by CoryUyede (Post 197578)
i don't think he's decided on color yet...?

I don't know what to think anymore!

Marloon is going to remind me of that guy a little while back that was working himself up to buying a BRZ, and then talked himself out of it and cancelled his pre-order like a day or two after he put it down. :P

Marloon 05-01-2012 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CoryUyede (Post 197479)
sweet...well at least you have your mind made up..for today :)


If i do end up Getting the BRZ, i'm 100% without a doubt getting the WRB, so you should get the SWP, so we don't clash at the meets!..lol :D

I really want to get SWP, too bad no one has one available lol. I put my name down for another deposit at a different dealer today - this is getting retarted lol.

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Originally Posted by Enemies (Post 197572)
Marloon picked the same car as me. What are the chances... From all those many options!

Woah! There's tons of configurations and colors choices! WHO WOULD HAVE FREAKING THOUGHT!

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Originally Posted by CoryUyede (Post 197578)
i don't think he's decided on color yet...?

not sure how to feel about the WRB color. I like it, yet i don't know lol.

of course, all of these decisions are just for today lol

CoryUyede 05-01-2012 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Marloon (Post 197608)
I really want to get SWP, too bad no one has one available lol. I put my name down for another deposit at a different dealer today - this is getting retarted lol.



Woah! There's tons of configurations and colors choices! WHO WOULD HAVE FREAKING THOUGHT!



not sure how to feel about the WRB color. I like it, yet i don't know lol.

of course, all of these decisions are just for today lol


lol...you're awesome marlon =p I hope know all your deposits are refundable..but...just in case..can you afford monthly payments on 2 FR-Ses and 4 BRZs?.. :D

Well, i'm in love with the WRB. i've got it on my WRX, (you can see it thursday) and i love it...the White i don't know..haven't seen the white FRS in person yet..but I HAVE seen Subarus for the past 6 years that have been using it, i know that color well. I have to say..for the SWP..I think it definitely looks better on the BRZ than the FRS.

What place in line are you at richmond subaru?..sorry i've probably asked you before..i don't remember which spot you are at what location..=p

Marloon 05-01-2012 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CoryUyede (Post 197626)
lol...you're awesome marlon =p I hope know all your deposits are refundable..but...just in case..can you afford monthly payments on 2 FR-Ses and 4 BRZs?.. :D

Well, i'm in love with the WRB. i've got it on my WRX, (you can see it thursday) and i love it...the White i don't know..haven't seen the white FRS in person yet..but I HAVE seen Subarus for the past 6 years that have been using it, i know that color well. I have to say..for the SWP..I think it definitely looks better on the BRZ than the FRS.

What place in line are you at richmond subaru?..sorry i've probably asked you before..i don't remember which spot you are at what location..=p

Can I afford 2 Fr-Ses and 4 BRZ's? PSH!!! the plan is to just park all of those cars in the parking lot that is viewable from a workplace window. In this way, I am reminded about how awesome my decisions are about financing 6 cars at the same time. Oh and I will never leave work and will probably take up a 5th or 6th job just to be able to eat. LOL.

yeah i'm on the fence with the WSP - the reason being is that it seems like its plaque white and not super white yet I am also on the fence with the WRB because I ask myself, "what if i get sick of blue?"

#3 on a white DV1SS. :( Every asian in richmond wants a white DV1SS. GO FIGURe.

CoryUyede 05-02-2012 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Marloon (Post 197633)
Can I afford 2 Fr-Ses and 4 BRZ's? PSH!!! the plan is to just park all of those cars in the parking lot that is viewable from a workplace window. In this way, I am reminded about how awesome my decisions are about financing 6 cars at the same time. Oh and I will never leave work and will probably take up a 5th or 6th job just to be able to eat. LOL.

yeah i'm on the fence with the WSP - the reason being is that it seems like its plaque white and not super white yet I am also on the fence with the WRB because I ask myself, "what if i get sick of blue?"

#3 on a white DV1SS. :( Every asian in richmond wants a white DV1SS. GO FIGURe.

That's the problem with "Colors", you can and do get sick of them. You typically don't get sick of black silver and whites. Bored maybe, not sick.

I love the FRS in red, but i know for sure i'd get tired of it quickly.

The SWP is very light reactive..depending on the Time of day/ Color temp of the sun. Sometimes it can appear Quite Beige, other times, a pure lexus type flushed out metallic (:thumbsup:)



So you're Third in line AND you want the White SportTech? or you're Specifically 3rd in line for THIS configuration?


I Ask because i'm just first in general at richmond subaru, but i never specified anything(Trim/Color/Trans), they also never asked till recently. My salesmen knows i want WRB sport-tech 6M though..but that was only recently...my preorder was just for the spot..much like open road scion.

Maybe having the first spot, i have "right of refusal" so that's why they didn't ask me at the time :iono:

Marloon 05-02-2012 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CoryUyede (Post 197651)
That's the problem with "Colors", you can and do get sick of them. You typically don't get sick of black silver and whites. Bored maybe, not sick.

I love the FRS in red, but i know for sure i'd get tired of it quickly.

The SWP is very light reactive..depending on the Time of day/ Color temp of the sun. Sometimes it can appear Quite Beige, other times, a pure lexus type flushed out metallic (:thumbsup:)

So you're Third in line AND you want the White SportTech? or you're Specifically 3rd in line for THIS configuration?

I Ask because i'm just first in general at richmond subaru, but i never specified anything(Trim/Color/Trans), they also never asked till recently. My salesmen knows i want WRB sport-tech 6M though..but that was only recently...my preorder was just for the spot..much like open road scion.

Maybe having the first spot, i have "right of refusal" so that's why they didn't ask me at the time :iono:

I saw the list of cars they were getting. To be honest, I didn't see a WRB DV1SS. Check with the sales manager.

Marloon 05-02-2012 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CoryUyede (Post 197651)
That's the problem with "Colors", you can and do get sick of them. You typically don't get sick of black silver and whites. Bored maybe, not sick.

I love the FRS in red, but i know for sure i'd get tired of it quickly.

The SWP is very light reactive..depending on the Time of day/ Color temp of the sun. Sometimes it can appear Quite Beige, other times, a pure lexus type flushed out metallic (:thumbsup:)

That's the thing. Its so darn safe that you wont get sick of it. I am the type of person to play it safe which is why my Elantra is pure white too :D great to hide dents, hard as hell to keep clean.

and yes. I am the third for this configuration at this specific dealership.

CoryUyede 05-02-2012 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Marloon (Post 197659)
I saw the list of cars they were getting. To be honest, I didn't see a WRB DV1SS. Check with the sales manager.

I'm going to email my Salesman and make sure.:( That's going to suck if they gave me the wrong info.

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Originally Posted by Marloon (Post 197661)
That's the thing. Its so darn safe that you wont get sick of it. I am the type of person to play it safe which is why my Elantra is pure white too :D great to hide dents, hard as hell to keep clean.

and yes. I am the third for this configuration at this specific dealership.

Nothing wrong with playin it safe either...this car looks good in any color really. The white is cool on the brz, it has a nice contrast with all the black trim accents

Enemies 05-02-2012 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CoryUyede (Post 197825)
this car looks good in any color really

It really does. The main reason I didn't choose WRB is because I wasn't crazy about how it looked on the WRX's and STI's when I went to the dealership. It was a cloudy day though so who knows how far the colour is off.

My brother-in-law had a Ford Probe years ago with a custom paint job that was really close to WRB. I think that's one thing that always kind of put me off to WRB vehicles.

I think if my dealer said to me... Your SWP got banged up, you can wait for a new one to come in or choose from any other colour we have in, I'd probably grab a different colour. It's not like there is a bad one at all. Well, maybe red. Need to see it in person. :P

CoryUyede 05-02-2012 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Enemies (Post 197827)
It really does. The main reason I didn't choose WRB is because I wasn't crazy about how it looked on the WRX's and STI's when I went to the dealership. It was a cloudy day though so who knows how far the colour is off.

My brother-in-law had a Ford Probe years ago with a custom paint job that was really close to WRB. I think that's one thing that always kind of put me off to WRB vehicles.

I think if my dealer said to me... Your SWP got banged up, you can wait for a new one to come in or choose from any other colour we have in, I'd probably grab a different colour. It's not like there is a bad one at all. Well, maybe red. Need to see it in person. :P


I love the Red...It would be my second choice for sure. I can't even explain it either... When i bought the WRX, red was my second choice for that too..but not available in Canada, just like the BRZ

Well, maybe ONE explanation is, I like Subies in Red. Mainly because i Never see them ;). Whenever i See a 04-07 red WRX all done up..i get excited :D

CoryUyede 05-02-2012 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Marloon (Post 197659)
I saw the list of cars they were getting. To be honest, I didn't see a WRB DV1SS. Check with the sales manager.

Hey marlon, so i Spoke to my salesmen at Richmond Subaru. My car didn't show up on the list because I ordered so early that it's actually a Factory order, as opposed to "random" incoming stock.

So from the list you were looking at, my car didn't show up because it's actually "not available" to buy

Enemies 05-02-2012 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CoryUyede (Post 198211)
Hey marlon, so i Spoke to my salesmen at Richmond Subaru. My car didn't show up on the list because I ordered so early that it's actually a Factory order, as opposed to "random" incoming stock.

So from the list you were looking at, my car didn't show up because it's actually "not available" to buy

Ah, that's nice that you can breathe easier now.

I guess it means that if people pass on their cars it'll open up options for people down the line.


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