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slicktop 01-03-2014 10:00 PM

2JZ swap mount kit
 
Just got a text from a friend.

http://www.xcessivemanufacturing.com...step=4&pid=326

Discuss.

woode 01-03-2014 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slicktop (Post 1428570)
Just got a text from a friend.

http://www.xcessivemanufacturing.com...step=4&pid=326

Discuss.

Good to have options.
Although, personally, a 2JZ starts to ruin why I bought this car in the first place.

glorydays 01-04-2014 01:08 AM

this beats the ls2 option by a mile

Evasive Motorsports 01-04-2014 03:23 AM

Looks ok I would wait till full billet motor mount comes out.

Calum 01-04-2014 06:32 AM

Those bolts look pretty small to hold back the kind of power that a person would be going for if installing a 2JZ.

slicktop 01-04-2014 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Evasive Motorsports (Post 1429131)
Looks ok I would wait till full billet motor mount comes out.

This just in, Evasive confirms billet 2JZ-FT86 motor mount swap kit.

Thank you!

Pete156 01-04-2014 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Calum (Post 1429295)
Those bolts look pretty small to hold back the kind of power that a person would be going for if installing a 2JZ.

It doesn't look as if they even completed the welds. Look cheap and weak IMHO

slicktop 01-25-2014 10:14 PM

I purchased a set. They came in a few days ago and they're pretty beefy.

I'll let you know how they hold up.

MMorganFRS 01-26-2014 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by slicktop (Post 1479811)
I purchased a set. They came in a few days ago and they're pretty beefy.

I'll let you know how they hold up.

Pictures???

RD1428 01-26-2014 10:22 AM

Hmmm I sure hope a good mounting kit comes out by next year when I come back to the states from japan with a couple 2jz engines ;)

slicktop 01-26-2014 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MMorganFRS (Post 1480019)
Pictures???

Here's a few. I think it'll be plenty to hold the motor. Ryan Tuerck uses them on his pushing 800+

Also, the fasteners are all M10 bolts, 16-17mm heads

armythug 01-26-2014 12:02 PM

Sorry for going slightly off topic but can you still get those engines new? And how much would one set you back?

MMorganFRS 01-26-2014 12:09 PM

Thanks for the pictures!

ZionsWrath 01-26-2014 12:27 PM

Plug and play motor mount kits would make things very interesting in 5-10 years when used examples become quite cheap... hmmm...

slicktop 01-26-2014 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by armythug (Post 1480659)
Sorry for going slightly off topic but can you still get those engines new? And how much would one set you back?

New? I think something in the $6k ranged fully assembled.

glorydays 01-27-2014 08:10 AM

So what's the reason why the vvt engines won't work with these? Is it a clearance issue or do they mount differently? Also what other transmission options are there because a getrag seems cost prohibitive for most. It seems most 2jz come auto.

Reaper 01-27-2014 08:32 AM

The 2jz is one of my all time favorite engines but...the price seems to be climbing in its old age. But with GM cranking out brand spanking new LS engines everyday their price per HP is getting lower and they have endless transmission options.

slicktop 01-27-2014 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by glorydays (Post 1482515)
So what's the reason why the vvt engines won't work with these? Is it a clearance issue or do they mount differently? Also what other transmission options are there because a getrag seems cost prohibitive for most. It seems most 2jz come auto.

I honestly couldn't tell you. I have a non-vvti so it just happened to work out. I was going to go with custom, and I may still depending on fitment.

There's the r154, w58, v160/161.

I have a v160 going in. There will be some coverage, I get in the zone and forget to take pics every time I do something.

slicktop 01-27-2014 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper (Post 1482524)
The 2jz is one of my all time favorite engines but...the price seems to be climbing in its old age. But with GM cranking out brand spanking new LS engines everyday their price per HP is getting lower and they have endless transmission options.

A lot of my buddies wanted me to go LS but that's not my style. Props to those who have though! It's not everyday a swapped car comes by, that's only on the net :)

SmsAlSuwaidi 01-27-2014 11:22 AM

Non vvti is the way to go :)

I must tell you i am very very jelous @slicktop , please keep us updated and ill try to help as much as i can btw

SundayFRS 01-27-2014 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi (Post 1482703)
Non vvti is the way to go :)

I must tell you i am very very jelous @slicktop , please keep us updated and ill try to help as much as i can btw

I don't know dude, I'm pretty jealous of you!:bonk:Cuz of the other thread lol

bakerr6 01-27-2014 12:11 PM

I think in my transition it will be boost it, blow it up (stock engine) and then drop in an lsx (hopefully an ls7, if cheap enough by that point).

SmsAlSuwaidi 01-27-2014 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SundayFRS (Post 1482759)
I don't know dude, I'm pretty jealous of you!:bonk:Cuz of the other thread lol


What thread ?
Only reason i didnt do a 2j is because
1) down time
2)cost
3)buying a supra soon (fingers crossed )


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SundayFRS 01-27-2014 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi (Post 1483077)
What thread ?
Only reason i didnt do a 2j is because
1) down time
2)cost
3)buying a supra soon (fingers crossed )


Sent from my IBrick

The turbo build thread you have in Member's Journal.
I understand about 2j, I was thinking going that route myself. Who knows maybe in a few years. But since I saw the map performance turbo kit, that will calm the itch to go FI for a while! Hope you get a Supra :thumbup:

slicktop 01-28-2014 08:44 AM

Can't decide if I want to get the head built or not...

SmsAlSuwaidi 01-28-2014 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by slicktop (Post 1485658)
Can't decide if I want to get the head built or not...


No


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Valentino 01-30-2014 10:03 PM

Good luck. Keep us posted.

Macklin 02-04-2014 07:31 PM

Hello
Curious what you are doing for the drive by wire? are you going to convert to cable?

Nasty Sausage 02-04-2014 08:09 PM

It would be neat to swap in a stock TT Aristo motor 2JZ. It has accommodations for cruise control, traction control, and the electronic throttle sensors, in addition to the cable. From doing research, and since my IS also has the later Supra/Aristo hybrid cable/electronic throttle system, I've come to find out that the electronic sensor is to achieve the same amount of energy produced going uphill as well as downhill, so your car will accelerate the same uphill as in downhill. It automatically increases and decreases the throttle position given the same input depending on elevation. Interesting tech. I wonder how this can be applied to the twins.

slicktop 02-05-2014 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Macklin (Post 1504141)
Hello
Curious what you are doing for the drive by wire? are you going to convert to cable?

Undecided at the moment. Looking at a standard cable system though.

The drive by wire is still manipulated by a cable in the "drive by wire" 2JZ-GTE. The build is taking a lot of turns lately. There was a slight miss-communication and I'm looking into a live axle setup. I don't do twisties so the purists are REALLY going to hate my car.

In any case, the heads are coming off and a set of GSC S2's, Beehive springs/Ti retainers and new valve stem seals are going in.

I plan on pulling the FA20 in April after we move into our new house and it should be a fun build.

hmong337 02-05-2014 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by slicktop (Post 1505589)
Undecided at the moment. Looking at a standard cable system though.

The drive by wire is still manipulated by a cable in the "drive by wire" 2JZ-GTE. The build is taking a lot of turns lately. There was a slight miss-communication and I'm looking into a live axle setup. I don't do twisties so the purists are REALLY going to hate my car.

In any case, the heads are coming off and a set of GSC S2's, Beehive springs/Ti retainers and new valve stem seals are going in.

I plan on pulling the FA20 in April after we move into our new house and it should be a fun build.

Looking forward to the 2jz build. I'm a twisties person but your car is going to make for a badass street/strip toy! 9 sec car and driven to the track.

SmsAlSuwaidi 02-05-2014 06:19 PM

A 2j can be built for the track too :)


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Luckrider 02-05-2014 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi (Post 1506874)
A 2j can be built for the track too :)


Sent from my IBrick

Yeah, but the solid axle sorta takes away from that.

To the OP: Please do a proper long arm suspension with decent triangulation. It will make it that much better to drive down the street and will help control the power. I am sure there has to be drag forums that cover proper suspension setups, but coming from the Jeep world, I have some buddies who have built their own suspesions and there are geometry calculators that can calculate things like articulation, COG, wheel hop, and the like so that you get the best possible setup.

slicktop 02-05-2014 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckrider (Post 1507207)
Yeah, but the solid axle sorta takes away from that.

To the OP: Please do a proper long arm suspension with decent triangulation. It will make it that much better to drive down the street and will help control the power. I am sure there has to be drag forums that cover proper suspension setups, but coming from the Jeep world, I have some buddies who have built their own suspesions and there are geometry calculators that can calculate things like articulation, COG, wheel hop, and the like so that you get the best possible setup.

I have a few very very knowledgeable friends that I will be working with to make this all come together. We'll be nailing down specifics very soon.

Just got back from the machine shop earlier today and I'm looking at a fun setup :)

RRBS 02-05-2014 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glorydays (Post 1482515)
So what's the reason why the vvt engines won't work with these? Is it a clearance issue or do they mount differently? Also what other transmission options are there because a getrag seems cost prohibitive for most. It seems most 2jz come auto.

VVTI is front sump that is why it has fitment issues.

Good luck with your build.

JP 02-06-2014 12:23 AM

only aristo 2J's are front sump. JZA80 vvti engines are rear sump

Drift&Drag 02-19-2014 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slicktop (Post 1505589)
The drive by wire is still manipulated by a cable in the "drive by wire" 2JZ-GTE. The build is taking a lot of turns lately. There was a slight miss-communication and I'm looking into a live axle setup. I don't do twisties so the purists are REALLY going to hate my car.

In any case, the heads are coming off and a set of GSC S2's, Beehive springs/Ti retainers and new valve stem seals are going in.

I plan on pulling the FA20 in April after we move into our new house and it should be a fun build.

Bad ass! I have found a fellow 2JZ FT86 brother lol. I just picked up a BRZ and recently joined this forum. My build has been on the low but I will cameo the venture in this thread. I went with the Xcessive Engineering 2JZ FT86 engine mount kit as well.

If you are already in the engine, you might as well do the heads. I replaced the water pump, timing belt, pulled the heads (Stage II PnP) and also went with the GSC S2s mated with the Beehive springs. Heads are fully built along with the bottom end. Don't forget about the billet modified oil pump, billet tensioner, and damper. I went with an ATI super damper crank pulley. I have the V160 6-speed trans with a ATS triple carbon clutch. Still trying to decide on the rear-end and the DS will of course come from the Driveshaft shop. More details will be in my build thread which will be created once I drop the engine in.

Which intake manifold are you going with slicktop? I went with a Virtual Works with a 90mm TB.

Time to share some photos:

http://www.driftndrag.com/images/2JZ-BRZ-Project/07.jpg

http://www.driftndrag.com/images/2JZ-BRZ-Project/08.jpg

http://www.driftndrag.com/images/2JZ-BRZ-Project/09.jpg

http://www.driftndrag.com/images/2JZ-BRZ-Project/10.jpg

http://www.driftndrag.com/images/2JZ-BRZ-Project/11.jpg

http://www.driftndrag.com/images/2JZ-BRZ-Project/12.jpg

http://www.driftndrag.com/images/2JZ-BRZ-Project/13.jpg

If you or anyone else needs some help/advice with a 2JZ build, please give me a shout. I would be glad to help. :thumbup:


Quote:

Originally Posted by JP (Post 1507827)
only aristo 2J's are front sump. JZA80 vvti engines are rear sump

You can always swap out the oil pans if need be. :thumbsup:

2JZ Front sump oil pan VS. 2JZ Rear sump

http://www.driftndrag.com/images/2JZ...p-Oil-Pans.jpg

slicktop 02-19-2014 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drift&Drag (Post 1542179)
Bad ass! I have found a fellow 2JZ FT86 brother lol. I just picked up a BRZ and recently joined this forum. My build has been on the low but I will cameo the venture in this thread. I went with the Xcessive Engineering 2JZ FT86 engine mount kit as well.

If you are already in the engine, you might as well do the heads. I replaced the water pump, timing belt, pulled the heads (Stage II PnP) and also went with the GSC S2s mated with the Beehive springs. Heads are fully built along with the bottom end. Don't forget about the billet modified oil pump, billet tensioner, and damper. I went with an ATI super damper crank pulley. I have the V160 6-speed trans with a ATS triple carbon clutch. Still trying to decide on the rear-end and the DS will of course come from the Driveshaft shop. More details will be in my build thread which will be created once I drop the engine in.

Which intake manifold are you going with slicktop? I went with a Virtual Works with a 90mm TB.


If you or anyone else needs some help/advice with a 2JZ build, please give me a shout. I would be glad to help. :thumbup:




You can always swap out the oil pans if need be. :thumbsup:

2JZ Front sump oil pan VS. 2JZ Rear sump

Always great to hear from another guy doing the swap! My motor was dropped off yesterday at the machine shop.

Preliminary details:

10:1 CP Pistons
Carrillo H-beam rods w/ CARR bolts
Pro-Gram mains
ARP fasteners all around
GSC S2
GSC Beehive w/ Ti retainers
GSC Valve guides
GSC Valves (stock size)
GSC VSS

I'm sticking with stock throttle body at the moment because I know it can support four digits. I have the PHR modded oil pump and MVP billet tensioner w/ Gates belt. There's a possibility of some more stuff happening but it's up in the air at the moment.

I'm going with a custom rear end setup. No details on that yet, but I'll definitely keep you in the loop!

SmsAlSuwaidi 02-19-2014 08:09 PM

@slicktop @Drift&Drag

i hate you guys so much :)

slicktop 02-19-2014 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi (Post 1542219)
@slicktop @Drift&Drag

i hate you guys so much :)

GTX4202R


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