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mit_peid 12-25-2013 05:38 PM

Anybody tried these sub enclosures before?
 
I'm thinking about freeing up some space in my trunk by going with a custom sub enclosure in lieu of my JL subbox. Did some Googling and found this. Anybody have any experience with this company? Seems to be a decent price and looks pretty good. Not sure if 8" or 10" would be better. I want something that is easily removable and gives me access to the rear shocks.

http://customsubenclosures.com/produ...fer-enclosure/

suaveflooder 12-25-2013 05:55 PM

$250 for an enclosure? It looks great, don't get me wrong, but too expensive for me

Rabble 12-25-2013 05:58 PM

Seems like a waste of money, go to an audio installer and they'd probably charge that to build and install custom boxes.

Drift 12-25-2013 10:30 PM

After paying 60 dollars for a dual enclosure in my other car (it gave me no problems and worked great). I've really recoiled at all the prices for these custom enclosures.

:((

mit_peid 12-25-2013 10:35 PM

Ok guys. Appreciate all the commentary on the price of this custom sub-enclosure. Let's assume $250 is NBD and worth it to increase the space in the trunk assuming I'm coming from a larger enclosure. Has anybody tried this enclosure before? I actually think it is fairly reasonable given the JL custom enclosure MSRP is $650 and the OEM+ is $1100 (includes amp and tweeters).

tbertran 12-25-2013 11:36 PM

Mine shipped yesterday (extremely friendly customer service), I'll update after I get it. I'm marrying it to the Rockford P3D4-10 and Rockford R500X1D amp.
I did get a couple of quotes from some local Car Stereo shops and it came out pretty close to what I'm paying here. Big difference is that the enclosure they would build for me would be much larger and, from what I gathered, not exactly fitted... That trunk is already small as it is...


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OICU812 12-26-2013 02:51 AM

The question I'd be asking is if whatever box you're considering is fitted to proper airspace to "your sub". To have proper coustics and truly appreciate the sound this is more important than price? Each has their own needs if you want just bass and don't care if it's perfect sound or phase timing almost all other enclosures will do I suppose. The ones Integrity Concepts sell here are matched to meet an individual subs needs and are made to fit our car that's a suggestion to look into "if you care about pairing that is".

The difference in overall sound between joe blow sub box and a properly air volume calculated sub enclosure IMO is night & day.

Rausch 12-28-2013 01:13 PM

^ You can request/specify volume. If you already have a sub and know the Vas is reasonably close to the generic box volume, you can request that the enclosure is sized appropriately.

I can't speak for this company, but I had a 12" box in the same style for my old M3 and it performed quite well. I got lucky though and sub I used required almost the exact volume the off the shelf box provided.

Food for thought.


Edit: The Integrity Concepts enclosures do look well built!

raptor87 12-28-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mit_peid (Post 1411340)
I'm thinking about freeing up some space in my trunk by going with a custom sub enclosure in lieu of my JL subbox. Did some Googling and found this. Anybody have any experience with this company? Seems to be a decent price and looks pretty good. Not sure if 8" or 10" would be better. I want something that is easily removable and gives me access to the rear shocks.

http://customsubenclosures.com/produ...fer-enclosure/


I actually ordered an enclosure from fgseonline.com which now redirects to the link you posted in Feb 2011 for my RSX. It was molded to the trunk perfectly and the carpet matched.

They did not used to have the volumes of the enclosures listed on the site and I am not sure if they can tweak it beyond the reference design.

I paid $220 and sold it with the car 2 years later.

tbertran 12-28-2013 07:40 PM

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Just received the enclosure. Getting it installed next weekend. Pretty stoked at how well it fits in that tiny corner.

Attachment 61407
Attachment 61408

MMAutoworks 12-30-2013 12:12 PM

I'm in the process of building matching enclosures for both sides that hold either a 10" or a 12" that will take up less space. Having molds pulled for them, any interest here for something like that?

mid_life_crisis 12-30-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tbertran (Post 1416829)
Just received the enclosure. Getting it installed next weekend. Pretty stoked at how well it fits in that tiny corner.

Can you take a pic standing directly behind the car but back three, four feet? I'm looking at possibly doing this myself, but want to get a better feel for how much space it takes up and pics right on top of it don't really do that for me.

mit_peid 12-31-2013 01:05 AM

Where do you have your amp(s) installed? I currently have mine screwed to the back of my rectangular sub enclosure but thinking about putting it under the carpet on the opposite side from the OEM amp but slightly concerned about overheating.

tbertran 12-31-2013 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mid_life_crisis (Post 1419430)
Can you take a pic standing directly behind the car but back three, four feet?

Here it is.

tbertran 12-31-2013 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mit_peid (Post 1420917)
Where do you have your amp(s) installed?

I haven't figured that one out yet. I'm going to try and get it done tomorrow. I'd like to do it like you said but I'm not sure there will be enough room.
I'm going to be running the Rockford R500X1D (500W RMS) with the Rockford P3D4-10 (500W RMS) at 2 ohms. Should be fine as far as heat.

Juggles 12-31-2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MMAutoworks (Post 1419417)
I'm in the process of building matching enclosures for both sides that hold either a 10" or a 12" that will take up less space. Having molds pulled for them, any interest here for something like that?

I'm interested, but will need to see some specs/diagram to ensure it is what I am looking for!

tbertran 01-01-2014 09:48 PM

Anybody tried these sub enclosures before?
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by mit_peid (Post 1420917)
Where do you have your amp(s) installed?


I finished the installation. I decided to put the amp in the right corner, under the trunk cover. I removed the styrofoam that was there, velcroed the amp to the body and used some foam rectangles I had laying around to fill as much void as I could.
So far, so good. Attachment 61795

mit_peid 01-01-2014 09:59 PM

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I was working on relocating my amp today as well. I decided to put it where the OEM amp was. Had to dremel off a couple bolts and cut off some styrofoam, but I think it turned out okay. Velcroing the amp down sounds like a good idea although it really doesn't seem to budge in my current setup. Attachment 61796

tbertran 01-01-2014 10:18 PM

@mit_peid, looking good! I considered cutting the styrofoam to fit the opening but in the end I didn't. I might do it if the foam rectangles cause me trouble.

One weird thing, my Door Unlocked light now comes on and off when I turn the volume higher...
It could be the vibrations in the trunk that throw the sensor off or some kind of electrical overload (doubt it)...

Any idea?

mit_peid 01-02-2014 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tbertran (Post 1424048)
One weird thing, my Door Unlocked light now comes on and off when I turn the volume higher...
It could be the vibrations in the trunk that throw the sensor off or some kind of electrical overload (doubt it)...

Any idea?

That does sound really weird. Are you sure the unlocked door light is tied to use of the volume? I was going to guess it maybe has something to do with the trunk latch or something but I have not idea. Maybe check your various grounds are secure? I did have some glitches with different battery (12VDC) and remote triggers with use of my microbypass, but found a configuration that is relatively error-free.

tbertran 01-04-2014 12:44 PM

Well it hasn't happened since the first day I was running it so... Fingers crossed.
About the enclosure, I should say that it's very well made, fits very snuggle and blends very well into the trunk "landscape".

My only problem is to find a good way to secure it though. Since it doesn't have a flat bottom, it needs to be propped up a little to fit in the corner and I'm still to find a good system (using flat, adjustable length bungee cord for now but the limited number of holes to anchor it is making it unreliable).

Any suggestions appreciated.

mit_peid 01-04-2014 03:21 PM

Didn't their website recommend using Velcro to hold the box up?

Integrity Concepts 01-04-2014 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tbertran (Post 1429655)
My only problem is to find a good way to secure it though. Since it doesn't have a flat bottom, it needs to be propped up a little to fit in the corner and I'm still to find a good system (using flat, adjustable length bungee cord for now but the limited number of holes to anchor it is making it unreliable).

Any suggestions appreciated.

Unfortunately most fiberglass corner load enclosures on the market today do not come with a mounting solution, leaving the customer to figure it out. Most people will settle on the quickest and easiest available solution which is a couple of strips of industrial grade Velcro on the bottom, and a lot of times this is all that is needed to keep it snug. However, even for an enclosure with a great fit, this sometimes is not enough when your talking about a combined weight of 25-35 pounds between the enclosure and sub, and no grill to protect the subwoofer if the Velcro looses its grip and the enclosure flies across the trunk. You mentioned that the bottom of this enclosure is not flat making it tip a bit, and this may also make it difficult to use Velcro strips, not to mention you have the carpeted floor covered with a textured weather mat so if you try to use Velcro there it may not adhere properly or at all. You could do Velcro on the back of the enclosure, but the carpet pile of the factory liner is a bit thinner and more matted in this area so Velcro never seems to work as well there as on the bottom. Maybe the manufacturer has a solution for this or another suggestion for mounting their enclosure.

I personally think that the best way to mount this enclosure in your situation is to bolt through the inside of the enclosure to the car body similar to that of the JL Stealthbox available for this vehicle (pictures and description is available in the manual on their website). The only unfortunate thing about this is it means having to remove the sub to get to the bolt if you ever want to take the enclosure out, oh and cutting a hole in your trunk liner.

To maybe help spark some additional ideas for you:

We incorporate a quick release, tool less, tab mounting system for our 10" Integrity Enclosures, and a tool less hand knob and bracket mounting system for our 8" Integrity Enclosures, but I don't think either idea could be easily adapted for the enclosure in question. Here is a quick link of our 10" Integrity Enclosure mounting solution for your reference: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...=31813&page=10

There are a lot of other solutions to mount enclosures like this, but I honestly think that the bolt through option I suggested earlier will be the best solution for your situation. Best of luck.

Dan - Integrity Concepts

zoth 01-05-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tbertran (Post 1421451)
Here it is.

Nice, with the enclosure can you still have a rear strut brace?

tbertran 01-05-2014 11:20 PM

Anybody tried these sub enclosures before?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mit_peid (Post 1429932)
Didn't their website recommend using Velcro to hold the box up?


Velcro is tricky because every part of the enclosure rests against the carpeted trunk liner so it won't easily stick.

tbertran 01-05-2014 11:22 PM

Anybody tried these sub enclosures before?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Integrity Concepts (Post 1430063)

Dan - Integrity Concepts


Thanks for your writeup, Dan. For me, having to remove the grill and speaker to get to the bolts inside the enclosure is a non-starter.
I'll check out the link you suggested.

tbertran 01-05-2014 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by zoth (Post 1431615)
Nice, with the enclosure can you still have a rear strut brace?


I don't have any but based on this pic I found, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be a problem. Attachment 62580

Integrity Concepts 01-06-2014 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tbertran (Post 1432389)
Velcro is tricky because every part of the enclosure rests against the carpeted trunk liner so it won't easily stick.

Back to back hook sides of the Velcro (2 hook side Velcro strips stuck sticky sides together) between the carpeted surfaces of the enclosure and trunk liner, is how you get it to grip, but again this may not be enough in your situation and with this enclosure since you cannot place it on the bottom.

I can understand if you prefer not to bolt through the inside of the enclosure, so fabricating a bracket to a factory clip location may be your only other resonable option (but I think most of the factory clips in that area are located behind the enclosure you have).

tbertran 01-06-2014 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Integrity Concepts (Post 1432628)
Back to back hook sides of the Velcro (2 hook side Velcro strips stuck sticky sides together)


Duh... Makes so much sense, how did I not see that!
Thanks again for your help, trying this tomorrow!

tbertran 01-09-2014 01:09 PM

Didn't get around to getting the velcro so it did this in the mean time. It's not moving at all. Now, I didn't say it looked sexy though... :bellyroll:
http://i.imgur.com/wABbekT.jpg


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