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ID86 12-24-2013 10:08 AM

Marks on car
 
I just took delivery of my brand new FRS. However, I'm having a little problem..
Because I took delivery on a rainy/cloudy day, I couldn't see the details really well..

I have it on both sides of my car. Does anyone know if it's okay to use hand soap to try to remove it?

It might be a bit hard to see.

http://i39.tinypic.com/125mcdu.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/1zlyv0z.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/11ahci0.jpg

whaap 12-24-2013 10:12 AM

Just my thought. If you risk messing things up you would be in trouble. I would take it back to the dealership and point this out to them as a flaw. Let them correct it and if a mistake is made let it be theirs and not yours.

ID86 12-24-2013 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by whaap (Post 1409237)
Just my thought. If you risk messing things up you would be in trouble. I would take it back to the dealership and point this out to them as a flaw. Let them correct it and if a mistake is made let it be theirs and not yours.

Quite a drive from my house to there.. Don't really wanna go there unless it's an emergency.. Is it okay to use hand soap on these car paint?

JSanders 12-24-2013 10:18 AM

Are they straight lines? I had some very similar lines on my roof from the protective film used in transport. If that is the case I strongly recommend that you DO NOT try to scrub them off. Only thing you'll do is leave scratches in the clear coat trying. Go get a clay bar kit and focus on that area. It will easily pull the contaminants from the paint and not destroy the finish if used properly.

CBR600RR 12-24-2013 10:18 AM

Edit: Ninja'd ^

that looks like glue residue from the white protective film they put on cars int he factory. get your car detailes and I bet those marks will be gone.

ID86 12-24-2013 10:19 AM

Yea.. What im thinking is this too.

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at 1minute mark

And yes, the lines are super straight. Do you guys it will work if I use a microfiber cloth and use some hand soap and water to remove it without damaging the paint?

gily25 12-24-2013 10:33 AM

You seem stuck on this hand soap idea. I wouldn't use hand soap. Clear handsoap is great for cleaning up cloth items with minimal water but I think that you'll just end up scratching the car because it's simply not sudsy enough to lift on the dirt that is around these glue lines.

Get yourself some car wash soap, microfiber mit, 2 buckets (google two bucket method), some microfiber towels to dry and head down to the local carwash. I realize that it's winter in VA but most carwashes have warm water in the spray bays and a faucet (clean water, not reused) for you to fill the buckets. Spray the car first, use the foam gun if they have it (NOT THE BRUSH), then wash the car by hand and finish with a high pressure spray. When you wash, concentrate on washing completely first, then come back and wash around those lines. Your Spring detail will clean up any scratches you pick up.

DarkSunrise 12-24-2013 10:40 AM

Yeah as others have said, that's from the protective tape. I had that too. If you don't want to wash the car in the winter, you can use some quick detailer or bug/tar remover and wipe it off using a microfiber towel.

ID86 12-24-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 1409276)
Yeah as others have said, that's from the protective tape. I had that too. If you don't want to wash the car in the winter, you can use some quick detailer or bug/tar remover and wipe it off using a microfiber towel.

Cool, I'll get some of those bug/tar remover.
Just a question, I have some goo gone in my house, can I use it on those residue without damaging the paint?

radroach 12-24-2013 10:46 AM

Hand Soap. Sir you may need to learn how to wash a car before you ruin the paint on your new FR-S.



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Put some rubber kitchen gloves and waterproof boots on and your hands wont get cold.

Go to Autozone. Buy some high quality car wash.


http://www.meguiars.com/content/glob...ct/2745_lg.jpg http://www.pakwheels.com/forums/atta...rwashmittd.jpghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-J...0/P1050420.JPG


Meguiar's Gold Class or Deep Crystal Car wash or.. Do not get that wash + wax garbage. 2 microfiber mitts, 2 microfiber drying towels, and 2 buckets. One mitt use only for the body of the car, and the other mitt only use for cleaning the wheels. Spray car with water. Put soap in bucket, fill with water. Work from top to bottom. Clean a section at a time, washing off the mitt and getting new soap from the buckets after every section. Hose all the soap off the car. Dry using a couple drying towels or by driving down the street.

Do not continuously scrub an area unless necessary, the more you touch the car while washing the more you put fine scratches into the paint.

Apply wax after. You may need to check another tutorial on that.

TLDR: If you want to learn how to wash a car, hire a detailing specialist in your area to handle the initial cleaning of your car and watch him do that. I'd recommend searching for a person who specializes using Meguiar's products, (or search for any other high quality brands), and is using the newest Meguiar's DA microfiber kits etc.

ntron1 12-24-2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ID86 (Post 1409243)
Quite a drive from my house to there.. Don't really wanna go there unless it's an emergency.. Is it okay to use hand soap on these car paint?

NO! Premium car wash only.

DarkSunrise 12-24-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ID86 (Post 1409279)
Cool, I'll get some of those bug/tar remover.
Just a question, I have some goo gone in my house, can I use it on those residue without damaging the paint?

Some people say they've used goo gone on car paint (leaving it on for a short time) and say it's fine. Others have said they used it and it took off the clear coat.

Personally I wouldn't risk it on a brand new car.

AznBRZer 12-24-2013 11:44 AM

Easier to just get it detailed if you can afford it. That way, it'll get clay bar'd to remove all the contaminants from shipping as well as giving it proper protection.

SloS14 12-24-2013 11:48 AM

lol hand soap.

Atticus808 12-24-2013 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whaap (Post 1409237)
Just my thought. If you risk messing things up you would be in trouble. I would take it back to the dealership and point this out to them as a flaw. Let them correct it and if a mistake is made let it be theirs and not yours.

never bring your car to a dealership to correct
they suck ass

whaap 12-24-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Atticus808 (Post 1409371)
never bring your car to a dealership to correct
they suck ass

LOL. So you're saying if there was a risk of screwing up the paint it would be better for him to do it rather than the dealership? :bonk:

Atticus808 12-24-2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by whaap (Post 1409397)
LOL. So you're saying if there was a risk of screwing up the paint it would be better for him to do it rather than the dealership? :bonk:

no, bring it to someone that knows how to remove it :bonk:

Havsie 12-24-2013 12:10 PM

I had that on my car as well. It came off the first time I ONR'd the car.

Get a bottle of ONR, it's magical.

ID86 12-24-2013 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Havsie (Post 1409414)
I had that on my car as well. It came off the first time I ONR'd the car.

Get a bottle of ONR, it's magical.

Alright thanks. I'm guessing that Optimum No Rinse car wash right?
http://www.autogeek.net/no-rinse-wash.html
http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-no-r...h-and-wax.html

Which one is it? ;3

humfrz 12-24-2013 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ID86 (Post 1409230)
I just took delivery of my brand new FRS. ....

Well, ID86 .... there ya have it .... :)

Congratulations on the purchase of you're new car!

humfrz

ID86 12-24-2013 01:08 PM

Kinda new to this car scene.. I used to drive a beat up car, so I don't know the correct way to remove grime.

Calavera 12-24-2013 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus808 (Post 1409371)
never bring your car to a dealership to correct

they suck ass


Agreed. Bet you they will use hand soap! Lol


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the new guy 12-24-2013 01:31 PM

I had the same lines on my 2014, it's the glue that held the packaging in transportation. My dealership got mine off for me pretty easily.

Havsie 12-24-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ID86 (Post 1409432)
Alright thanks. I'm guessing that Optimum No Rinse car wash right?
http://www.autogeek.net/no-rinse-wash.html
http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-no-r...h-and-wax.html

Which one is it? ;3

I use the Wash & Wax. It's super convenient. You just wash the car with that, dry it off, and you're done.

ID86 12-24-2013 01:51 PM

Ha. Thanks guys for the help.. I ended up not using those.. I just went to my auto parts store and picked up a Meguiars Wash & Wax.. Came off effortlessly.

Turbo95eg6 12-24-2013 05:09 PM

Please start away from the wire brush and wool sponges too OP... You're making us all nervous.

prometheus 12-24-2013 07:08 PM

I experienced this from the dealer on delivery, I was ok with it because I was already going to be returning the car in 1 week for paint and fabric protection, I advised them of the marks from the shipping material before they applied the paint protection on my return the following week, the dealer assured me they would do a thorough detail job including CLAY BAR before applying the paint protection. needless to say the dealer did NOT properly clay bar and remove the adhesive left from the shipping materials and they applied the paint protection over the adhesive lines. I was so pissed off, I made a complaint to scion. I brought the car back a third time so that they could re apply the paint protection, they failed again. I gave up on them. I know the entire time I could have done a better job than the dealership at this, I gave them a shot, never again will I purchase paint protection from a dealer and never again will I let the dealer wash or detail another one of my cars. back to the OP tho. USE CLAY BAR, with ONR or another type of barrier spray so you don't mess up the paint, I know windex will work for this but I do suggest ONR lol

Atticus808 12-24-2013 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prometheus (Post 1410136)
I experienced this from the dealer on delivery, I was ok with it because I was already going to be returning the car in 1 week for paint and fabric protection, I advised them of the marks from the shipping material before they applied the paint protection on my return the following week, the dealer assured me they would do a thorough detail job including CLAY BAR before applying the paint protection. needless to say the dealer did NOT properly clay bar and remove the adhesive left from the shipping materials and they applied the paint protection over the adhesive lines. I was so pissed off, I made a complaint to scion. I brought the car back a third time so that they could re apply the paint protection, they failed again. I gave up on them. I know the entire time I could have done a better job than the dealership at this, I gave them a shot, never again will I purchase paint protection from a dealer and never again will I let the dealer wash or detail another one of my cars. back to the OP tho. USE CLAY BAR, with ONR or another type of barrier spray so you don't mess up the paint, I know windex will work for this but I do suggest ONR lol

what "paint protection" did they exactly put on?
don't accept any of that crap the dealer offers. my gfs mom got a "leather condition" package on her leather seats and I was like wtf? it was also really really expensive

prometheus 12-24-2013 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus808 (Post 1410161)
what "paint protection" did they exactly put on?
don't accept any of that crap the dealer offers. my gfs mom got a "leather condition" package on her leather seats and I was like wtf? it was also really really expensive

Its called "Ibex Protection" on my service order. interior and exterior paint and fabric protection. Side note, In college I worked full time at a chevrolet/hummer dealership in the new car department, my job was to accept delivery from freight, inspect, install, clean and put on the lot, then when a customer purchased a car I would bring it in off the lot and do a full detail. doing this for 3+ years I am no stranger to detailing a car. back then at the chevy dealer they would sell a similar product to "Ibex" it was a DuPont brand sealant that was applied to the exterior paint and interior parts including the seats. customers paid a premium for this and it was always handled by our senior new car tech "Joe" who had been there for 30+ years. when Joe got a paint and fabric order he always spent at least 6 hours, 8+ depending on the size of the vehicle, applying this DuPont protection. I honestly expected the identical thing from my Toyota dealer, in fact expected a little more being I paid over $600 for this. The manager at the dealership reached out to me after I displayed my dissatisfaction in a survey from scion. he proposed I bring the car back again for a full detail he said valued at $150. I had already fixed the issue myself by the point and told them I didn't want that. then they offered me a check for $200, I accepted that. so after all I spent around $400.

ID86 12-24-2013 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo95eg6 (Post 1409999)
Please start away from the wire brush and wool sponges too OP... You're making us all nervous.

Haha. It's cool. I removed with with Meguiar's Wash and Wax anywhere spray..

Used a microfiber cloth..

Idk how to clean up a car because all my other car were "beaters"

993Fan 12-24-2013 11:42 PM

Learn about using a clay bar. It's not some exotic process that only a dealer can do.

Atticus808 12-25-2013 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prometheus (Post 1410198)
Its called "Ibex Protection" on my service order. interior and exterior paint and fabric protection. Side note, In college I worked full time at a chevrolet/hummer dealership in the new car department, my job was to accept delivery from freight, inspect, install, clean and put on the lot, then when a customer purchased a car I would bring it in off the lot and do a full detail. doing this for 3+ years I am no stranger to detailing a car. back then at the chevy dealer they would sell a similar product to "Ibex" it was a DuPont brand sealant that was applied to the exterior paint and interior parts including the seats. customers paid a premium for this and it was always handled by our senior new car tech "Joe" who had been there for 30+ years. when Joe got a paint and fabric order he always spent at least 6 hours, 8+ depending on the size of the vehicle, applying this DuPont protection. I honestly expected the identical thing from my Toyota dealer, in fact expected a little more being I paid over $600 for this. The manager at the dealership reached out to me after I displayed my dissatisfaction in a survey from scion. he proposed I bring the car back again for a full detail he said valued at $150. I had already fixed the issue myself by the point and told them I didn't want that. then they offered me a check for $200, I accepted that. so after all I spent around $400.

my concern about the dealership detail is that they cause a lot of swirl marks. with such high volume, they use crappy rags to wipe things down.

why not get it opticoated? unless it's the same thing

prometheus 12-26-2013 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus808 (Post 1410456)
my concern about the dealership detail is that they cause a lot of swirl marks. with such high volume, they use crappy rags to wipe things down.

why not get it opticoated? unless it's the same thing

from my experience I have seen the darker colors show swirls and spider webs in greater detail and that would require a proper detail with a buffing wheel polish to fix. I would not trust any dealer to do this lol. The opticoat is basically the same thing, I am looking into applying something similar myself in a years time.

OICU812 12-26-2013 03:43 AM

Others make great points here. Bottom line if you're not experienced in good washing and care techniques take it to a reputable detailer great investment for your new car to begin with. Secondly if can afford it get entire front end done in Xpel or similar protection film, thank me later.

This cars paint is "so so" film on entire hood and front bumper at a minimum will keep front end looking new for years to come.

radroach 12-26-2013 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus808 (Post 1409371)
never bring your car to a dealership to correct
they suck ass

This. I once hung out around the back at my dealership getting an oil change and these nasty looking dudes were using these old ass rotary buffers to correct the paint on brand new cars they were selling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Havsie (Post 1409598)
I use the Wash & Wax. It's super convenient. You just wash the car with that, dry it off, and you're done.

That stuff was terrible on my BRZ. The waxy stuff they put in it faded the side black plastic vents / markers and seemed to dry it out, deteriorate it. I do not recommend it and certainly won't be using that particular meguiar's product again.


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