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liquidimports 12-12-2013 09:47 AM

New 2014 FRS for 23,322?
 
I found a brand new 2014 FRS for 23,322 is SC? Thats below invoice price? No hail damage or anything on it. clean title. What happened to scion pure price?

http://www.scionofrockhill.com/new/S...a692ad91fb.htm

21_nola_05 12-12-2013 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by liquidimports (Post 1385412)
I found a brand new 2014 FRS for 23,322 is SC? Thats below invoice price? No hail damage or anything on it. clean title. What happened to scion pure price?

http://www.scionofrockhill.com/new/S...a692ad91fb.htm


Buy it !!! lol

unless its a mistake or miss print

liquidimports 12-12-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 21_nola_05 (Post 1385457)
Buy it !!! lol

unless its a mistake or miss print

I think that might be worth 9 hour drive for me

21_nola_05 12-12-2013 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by liquidimports (Post 1385462)
I think that might be worth 9 hour drive for me


I agree .I live in NY and would make the trip lol.
But im wating for this so called Monogram series .

chaoskaze 12-12-2013 10:25 AM

Prefect! You will be done with braking it in by the time u get it home! lol

21_nola_05 12-12-2013 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 1385475)
Prefect! You will be done with braking it in by the time u get it home! lol


lol thats true

Mikem53 12-12-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by liquidimports (Post 1385412)
I found a brand new 2014 FRS for 23,322 is SC? Thats below invoice price? No hail damage or anything on it. clean title. What happened to scion pure price?

http://www.scionofrockhill.com/new/S...a692ad91fb.htm

Dealer admin fees, destination fees might not be included in that price.. Dealers have their ways... But pure pricing seems to be just another term that doesn't mean anything..

Brndn704 12-12-2013 10:58 AM

"Our offer of 23,322 beats the other guys' 25,729."

It seems legit. I would call them first and ask 'what is the catch?'.

Trmx2 12-12-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Logical (Post 1385534)
"Our offer of 23,322 beats the other guys' 25,729."

It seems legit. I would call them first and ask 'what is the catch?'.


Yeah that seems absurdly low. Dealers are scammers, there might be a lot of fine print in that like based on approved credit with a 0% financing, or if paid in full after X amount of months, or with a large downpayment or trade in value.

When I bought mine, they didn't wiggle with price as much but they did give me 2000 over KBB value for my trade in, my crappy Mazda 3 with all it's mileage and crappy body damange and broken radio was only worth 2300 according to KBB. Dealership gave me 4000 for my trade in and waived dealer fee. I literally got my 2014 for the exact price listed on the website lol. So I felt ok with that.

Note: Mine also had a spoiler, trunk/floor mats, and wheel locks (which they charge extra for)

If it's a legit price I'd go for it. That's cheap :thumbsup:

fourvalleys 12-12-2013 11:09 AM

I don't know about SC dealer's fees, but I shopped in different states. One had dealer fees mostly around $179, others had dealer fees approaching $2000.

The dealership I bought from had dealer fees around $600 but it still ended up cheaper.

liquidimports 12-12-2013 11:14 AM

Alright so after the salesman sent me the pricing break down, the total was
$26,465

liquidimports 12-12-2013 11:18 AM

Retail Price 26,193
Discount 2,871
Selling price 23,322
Options 798 (Tint, Nitro, floor mats)
sales subtotal 24, 120
TAX 1731.28
DocFee 589
Reg 25
Remaining Balance 26465.28

Tt3Sheppard 12-12-2013 11:20 AM

Good considering all the scions I see for sale at the dealer down the street is charging $27k plus for the FR-S

BrianJ 12-12-2013 11:51 AM

That's how much I paid for my leftover 2013..

Braces 12-12-2013 11:57 AM

Did it list miles on the car? I didn't see it listed. Could be a demo. If under 20 miles (mine had 7 on it when I bought mine) ..... GREAT DEAL.

Dadhawk 12-12-2013 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by liquidimports (Post 1385412)
What happened to scion pure price

There's been lots of discussion about this, particularly around the time the First86 and early adopters were getting their cars.

Bottom line is that the only thing Pure Price means is that the dealer has to sell the car at THEIR advertised and posted price, no more, not less.

It has no relationship to MSRP, and no relationship between dealers. Most dealers do sell at MSRP (with add-ons) but nothing stops them from selling above or below MSRP, they just aren't supposed to negotiate away from their posted price for an individual car.

Braces 12-12-2013 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 1385681)
There's been lots of discussion about this, particularly around the time the First86 and early adopters were getting their cars.

Bottom line is that the only thing Pure Price means is that the dealer has to sell the car at THEIR advertised and posted price, no more, not less.

It has no relationship to MSRP, and no relationship between dealers. Most dealers do sell at MSRP (with add-ons) but nothing stops them from selling above or below MSRP, they just aren't supposed to negotiate away from their posted price for an individual car.

Does that mean ALL the similar optioned cars at THAT dealership will be offered at THEIR price ... no haggle. The point is .... if a certain dealership offered new cars for around 23K (their pure price) .... then most buyers would discover this and buy from them. Curious if their Pure Pricing changes monthly based on demand and supply. When I purchased my new FR-S .... I was under the impression that the dealership is bound by SCION corporate to establish the price at MSRP which at the time was around 25K.

Dadhawk 12-12-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Braces (Post 1385712)
Does that mean ALL the similar optioned cars at THAT dealership will be offered at THEIR price ... no haggle. The point is .... if a certain dealership offered new cars for around 23K (their pure price) .... then most buyers would discover this and buy from them. Curious if their Pure Pricing changes monthly based on demand and supply. When I purchased my new FR-S .... I was under the impression that the dealership is bound by SCION corporate to establish the price at MSRP which at the time was around 25K.

No, it means if they list a specific VIN at a specific price, they have to sell it at that when you show up, no more no less, unless something is changed about the car.

Scion (and other car manufacturers) can't dictate the selling price in the US since the dealers are independently owned and operated, or at least that's my understanding.

Bottom line, Pure Price, is Pure Marketing, not much else. From Scion's own web page (the bolding is mine):

PURE PRICE - A DEFINITION

Scion Pure Price means the price you see in the dealership, on the dealership's website, or other dealer advertising locations is the price you pay. This applies to the vehicle, accessories, finance rates and insurance products. With Scion Pure Price, you know the price you will pay and you don't have to spend your time negotiating.
WHY USE PURE PRICE?

Our customers told us they want a shorter, simpler process with less pressure - and we listened. With Scion Pure Price, you don't have to negotiate price - or wait for someone to "crunch the numbers."
MSRP VS. DEALER'S PRICE

MSRP is the Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price that appears on Scion.com. The price that is shown on your dealer's website, which may or may not be the same as MSRP, is the price you'll pay for your new Scion. Pure Process is a completely transparent pricing system to help save you the time you would otherwise spend negotiating for a "deal."

z3ro 12-12-2013 01:16 PM

If you go in there talk to Kelsey Cash. I bought my car from that dealer and he was a good guy.

rhythmM 12-13-2013 11:17 AM

They will probably push hard for you to finance with them at the price.


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