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mjsivee 10-30-2013 10:03 AM

Automatic Shift Knob
 
Will a manual shift knob with a 10 x 1.25 pattern fit on an autmatic FRS.
Thinking about this ..
http://www.rallysportdirect.com/Beat...b-Red-M10x1-25
Thanks guys.

TOZER 10-30-2013 10:38 AM

No

drewbot 10-30-2013 12:25 PM

It would fit, meaning the threads would match and it will screw on.

However, the boot of the shifter will look weird unless you get a retainer.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/BLACK-SHIFT-K...9Yw~~60_35.JPG

TOZER 10-30-2013 12:30 PM

Automatic Shift Knob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drewbot (Post 1302752)
It would fit, meaning the threads would match and it will screw on.

However, the boot of the shifter will look weird unless you get a retainer.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/BLACK-SHIFT-K...9Yw~~60_35.JPG

It won't fit without some sort of adapter, they are different thread sizes

Edit manual is 12x1.25 and auto is 8x1.25

drewbot 10-30-2013 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOZER (Post 1302776)
It won't fit without some sort of adapter, they are different thread sizes

Edit manual is 12x1.25 and auto is 8x1.25

The shift knob the OP posted is 10x1.25, which is the native thread size for AT.

You are correct that the manual is 12x1.25, which would mean an adapter would be required. These are available for a few bucks.

mjsivee 10-30-2013 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewbot (Post 1303066)
The shift knob the OP posted is 10x1.25, which is the native thread size for AT.

You are correct that the manual is 12x1.25, which would mean an adapter would be required. These are available for a few bucks.

So would have to purchase one of these r-locks with the 10 X 1.25 shift knob and i would be straight?
http://www.rallysportdirect.com/Beat...b-Red-M10x1-25
http://www.raceseng.com/r-lock-2012-...r-s-subaru-brz

drewbot 10-30-2013 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjsivee (Post 1303266)
So would have to purchase one of these r-locks with the 10 X 1.25 shift knob and i would be straight?
http://www.rallysportdirect.com/Beat...b-Red-M10x1-25
http://www.raceseng.com/r-lock-2012-...r-s-subaru-brz

I'm not sure.

Lookup 10x1.25 shift knob adapter or boot retainer. There is a sickspeed one as well as some Ford Mustang ones.

Sarlacc 11-09-2015 07:42 AM

DIY automatic boot retainer
 
There's several threads touching the subject.
I'll resurrect this one instead of making a DIY thread for something as trivial.

After 2½ years loving my AT GT86 I decided on the following:

1. Don't like the shift knob. I rest my hand on it a lot (bad habit, I know) and it just doesn't feel good in my hand.

2. It's showing tiny signs of wear. I'll store it in a bag so if I want to sell the car it can look pristine.

3. Don't want a metal shift knob, they feel cold to me. Especially in winter.

So, I bought these of the "Gumball Series" from Sickspeed.
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/191233...0-1/s-l140.jpg http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/371279...0-1/s-l140.jpg

They feel like billiards/snooker balls and seems to be of excellent quality.
They came with 10x1.25 adapters and fits just fine, except they don't hold the boot up.
So I also got this:
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/361228...0-1/s-l140.jpg

They informed me that it would not fit an automatic ZN6, but I figured I could modify it somehow.
On inspection the diameter was way too big. There's enough metal so it would be possible to grind down the lip, but I don't have the tools.
I also found it to be too long for my taste.
It is nicely threaded (10x1.25) on top, so it won't rattle.

I cut it in half and grinded it down until it takes about the same amount of force to pull the boot over this as the original knob retainer.

Ended up with 3 parts:
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5740/2...4df82d5c_h.jpg

Screwed the first two on like this, and slipped an O-ring down just to seal it a little better.

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/641/22...c87ac556_h.jpg

Finally, the gear knob:
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/667/22...7f41a748_h.jpg

And finally, honouring a sacred pact with @Ultramaroon

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/602/22...4f626e52_h.jpg

The yellow one will go in my truck, though. Along with the shiny Sickspeed stickers.
That is, if the poor truck turns out to have survived the dynamite incident which has no relevance here at all.

drewbot 11-09-2015 07:54 AM

You can rest your hand all you want on the knob, since it ain't an MT?

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Sarlacc 11-09-2015 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewbot (Post 2445782)
You can rest your hand all you want on the knob, since it ain't an MT?

Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

Yes, it's probably OK to rest the hand on an AT knob.
I drive MT vehicles quite often, too. Still rest my hand on the knob. Haven't broken a gearbox yet.

Ultramaroon 11-09-2015 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarlacc (Post 2445784)
Yes, it's probably OK to rest the hand on an AT knob.
I drive MT vehicles quite often, too. Still rest my hand on the knob. Haven't broken a gearbox yet.

Very nice adaptation. Top shelf, sir. The red one does look more <cough> mature. :thumbsup:

Sarlacc 11-09-2015 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2446049)
Very nice adaptation. Top shelf, sir. The red one does look more <cough> mature. :thumbsup:

Thank you, sir! Highly appreciated.

The jury is still out on the maturity aspect, though. The Ministry of War and Finance (a.k.a. the mrs.) haven't seen it yet.

Ultramaroon 11-09-2015 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarlacc (Post 2446086)
Thank you, sir! Highly appreciated.

The jury is still out on the maturity aspect, though. The Ministry of War and Finance (a.k.a. the mrs.) haven't seen it yet.

I suggest opening with the All-the-cool-kids-are-doing-it approach.

Sarlacc 11-09-2015 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2446365)
I suggest opening with the All-the-cool-kids-are-doing-it approach.

Oh, I think I'll stick with my "Is that another new pair of shoes? A bit flashy, aren't they?" routine.
Has gotten me out of a lot. Like when I decided I was going to start wearing a fedora.

Tcoat 11-09-2015 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2446365)
I suggest opening with the All-the-cool-kids-are-doing-it approach.

And mention Ultra has one as well.

Ultramaroon 11-09-2015 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2446634)
And mention Ultra has one as well.

http://i.imgur.com/kmR8Qbym.png

soundman414 11-10-2015 09:43 PM

I have an A/T and I ordered a mishimoto and it had adapters with it. However, I had to deal with the boot retainer by cutting it off of the original shift knob and supergluing it to the bottom of the threaded adapter that was shipped with the mishi. After several months, I haven't had a single problem with it and it holds it tightly to the bottom of the mishimoto shift knob.

Sarlacc 11-11-2015 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundman414 (Post 2447690)
I have an A/T and I ordered a mishimoto and it had adapters with it. However, I had to deal with the boot retainer by cutting it off of the original shift knob and supergluing it to the bottom of the threaded adapter that was shipped with the mishi. After several months, I haven't had a single problem with it and it holds it tightly to the bottom of the mishimoto shift knob.

Yeah, that should work great! Perfect fitment to the boot. :cheers:
I decided to keep my OEM knob intact. In case a future owner wants it. It's an expensive part to cut up, after all.

I like the Mishimotos too, which one did you get?

Sarlacc 11-11-2015 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2446721)

If plan A (the shoes) doesn't quite cut it, I'll show her this.
http://imgur.com/7BTUz2Y.jpg

Nothing wrong with that one, I like it.
But after all these years I'm pretty sure mrs. Sarlacc will prefer my red snooker ball.
In fact, she'd probably use an Article 27 veto vote.

Ultramaroon 11-11-2015 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarlacc (Post 2447998)
In fact, she'd probably use an Article 27 veto vote.

If she doesn't, I'll launch a coup d'etat. Snooker balls for everyone.

BlackJesus 11-11-2015 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarlacc (Post 2447998)
If plan A (the shoes) doesn't quite cut it, I'll show her this.
http://imgur.com/7BTUz2Y.jpg

Nothing wrong with that one, I like it.
But after all these years I'm pretty sure mrs. Sarlacc will prefer my red snooker ball.
In fact, she'd probably use an Article 27 veto vote.

Seems very dangerous. Do you wear your seat belt often? one little accident could mean losing your life to a dildo like shift knob lol

Ketchum88 01-15-2016 06:54 AM

Just curious about the shift boot adapters for automatics. I want to make sure that the retainer that we are being told to buy is the 10x1.25 one and not the 12x1.25 one correct?

Also instead of sawing the retainer in half in order for the automatic boot to fit could you not just unclip the entire shifter trim from the center console and feed the shift boot overtop of the adapter?

RichardsFRS 01-15-2016 08:10 AM

We can't rest our hands on our knobs? lol

I drive a manual and thats where I put mine, or down below the knob around the reverse lock out, I might even shift there too. I saw someone here has an arm rest, I think I want one of those

Sarlacc 01-15-2016 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ketchum88 (Post 2510005)
Just curious about the shift boot adapters for automatics. I want to make sure that the retainer that we are being told to buy is the 10x1.25 one and not the 12x1.25 one correct?

Who's telling you to buy a retainer?
The one I got and hacked up because it didn't fit is 10x1.25 as I stated in post #8.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ketchum88 (Post 2510005)
Also instead of sawing the retainer in half in order for the automatic boot to fit could you not just unclip the entire shifter trim from the center console and feed the shift boot overtop of the adapter?

Yes, you could.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardsFRS (Post 2510014)
We can't rest our hands on our knobs? lol

I drive a manual and thats where I put mine, or down below the knob around the reverse lock out, I might even shift there too.

Look, some people argue that you will wear out the linkage bearings or something like that. Personally, I think it's bs. I've rested my hand on every knob in every car my whole life and I have never had a problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardsFRS (Post 2510014)
I saw someone here has an arm rest, I think I want one of those

There are many arm rests available.
I ordered this from eBay and I'm happy with it. It's taller than the OEM one, looks nice and feels nice.


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7292/1...f019b65d_o.jpg

RichardsFRS 01-15-2016 09:52 AM

Who makes it? Or do just search?

Sarlacc 01-15-2016 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardsFRS (Post 2510063)
Who makes it? Or do just search?

I ordered the arm rest in 2012 so I had it ready by time I took delivery of my car. Purchase history in eBay doesn't go that far back, so I'd say search...
Be aware that this armrest and most/all non-OEM pretty much fills the center console. There's no lid.
The OEM arm rest is a lid that goes sideways.

Ketchum88 01-15-2016 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarlacc (Post 2510057)
Who's telling you to buy a retainer?
The one I got and hacked up because it didn't fit is 10x1.25 as I stated in post #8.


Yes, you could.


Look, some people argue that you will wear out the linkage bearings or something like that. Personally, I think it's bs. I've rested my hand on every knob in every car my whole life and I have never had a problem.


There are many arm rests available.
I ordered this from eBay and I'm happy with it. It's taller than the OEM one, looks nice and feels nice.


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7292/1...f019b65d_o.jpg


Sorry I have just been trying to find a retainer for automatics and have read many threads. I guess I got this one mixed up with another one where someone said that was what you needed to buy.

I understand the thread pitch is 10x1.25 but does it matter which knob I buy because one will say it is for manual short shifters and another will say it is for automatics but they have the same thread pitch.

Thanks

Ketchum88 01-15-2016 09:45 PM

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...c8&oe=57466387

Also I love the oem toyota Europe armrest btw

Sarlacc 01-16-2016 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ketchum88 (Post 2511093)
Sorry I have just been trying to find a retainer for automatics and have read many threads. I guess I got this one mixed up with another one where someone said that was what you needed to buy.

I understand the thread pitch is 10x1.25 but does it matter which knob I buy because one will say it is for manual short shifters and another will say it is for automatics but they have the same thread pitch.

Thanks

I see!
There are knobs with and without the manual shift pattern, and there are knobs with a retainer for automatic (Perrin etc).
If you buy one without a boot retainer, like I did, you need to get creative.
There should be a market for separate boot retainers for the automatic, so I expect someone will come up with something. Or maybe someone have by now, IDK.

Ketchum88 01-25-2016 06:41 PM

I can confirm that the method of lifting up the entire shift boot trim and then screwing on the retainer makes for simple installation with no need to modify the 10x1.25 retainer sold by sickspeed.

Now I can simply order any manual shift knob I want and swap them out easily.

http://i.imgur.com/V2Ix1f6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/NjhUZXq.jpg

Sarlacc 01-25-2016 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ketchum88 (Post 2521880)
I can confirm that the method of lifting up the entire shift boot trim and then screwing on the retainer makes for simple installation with no need to modify the 10x1.25 retainer sold by sickspeed.

Now I can simply order any manual shift knob I want and swap them out easily.

Awesome!

Like the color, too. Looks like a good match for a hot lava :-)

Ketchum88 01-25-2016 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarlacc (Post 2522002)
Awesome!

Like the color, too. Looks like a good match for a hot lava :-)


I will probably end up buying a few more since they are so cheap, just bought orange because it was the cheapest one :D

Sarlacc 01-25-2016 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ketchum88 (Post 2522056)
I will probably end up buying a few more since they are so cheap, just bought orange because it was the cheapest one :D

:thumbup:
I started with two. The one I didn't pick for my 86 I put in my old Nissan truck.
I would like to see some of the new glow-in-the-dark knobs though!

timmydatooth 02-07-2016 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ketchum88 (Post 2521880)
I can confirm that the method of lifting up the entire shift boot trim and then screwing on the retainer makes for simple installation with no need to modify the 10x1.25 retainer sold by sickspeed.

Now I can simply order any manual shift knob I want and swap them out easily.

http://i.imgur.com/V2Ix1f6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/NjhUZXq.jpg

Hey man that looks awesome! Can I get the link for that shift boot retainer? And you said you didn't have to cut it in half or anything right? Does it hold it up nicely like it doesn't slide down or anything?

timmydatooth 02-08-2016 02:36 PM

Can someone get me the link to the correct sickspeed shift boot retainer? I see them on ebay but idk which one is the correct one. Thanks.

Sarlacc 02-08-2016 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmydatooth (Post 2539942)
Can someone get me the link to the correct sickspeed shift boot retainer? I see them on ebay but idk which one is the correct one. Thanks.

The one I cut in half to allow the boot to slip over it is probably the same one @Ketchum88 used. As I understand it he took the whole boot assembly apart and screwed the retainer on from underneath.
It will not fit without doing one or the other. Cutting it is probably the fastest way, and allows for easy removal and return to stock.
I don't have a link. It must have 10x1.25 thread, should be easy to find.

Ketchum88 02-08-2016 10:04 PM

Shift boot retainer

eBay link

This is all you need, I just popped the bezel off and screwed it onto the rod then put the boot overtop of it so it cannot fall down due to its shape.

timmydatooth 02-09-2016 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ketchum88 (Post 2540532)
Shift boot retainer

eBay link

This is all you need, I just popped the bezel off and screwed it onto the rod then put the boot overtop of it so it cannot fall down due to its shape.

Does it screw onto the rod or just fall down to the bottom? And if you do screw it on is there enough thread left on the rod to screw the shift knob on? Also is the rod exposed at all or does it sit flush on the retainer? Sorry for the questions lol thanks

Ketchum88 02-09-2016 08:44 PM

The retainer is the same thread pitch as the rod, it will screw all the way down to where a reverse lockout would be if we were a manual. The shift knobs will screw down on top of the retainer and sit flush with it so no metal is showing. Nothing rattles, it is a quick 40 dollar way to spice up your interior if you are rolling with an automatic.

Gixxerkid6hunid 07-11-2017 04:09 AM

shift boot retainer
 
[IMG]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...pspyfkuvto.jpg[/IMG]

super late response to this, but to anyone who may search upon this post like i recently did, the 10 x 1.25 shift knob will fit. however the boot (leather cover) will dangle sort of awkwardly, some may not care, but i went ahead and got that shift boot retainer, and am currently in the process of modifying it to fit into the shift boot. it takes a lot of grinding, but so far it seems possible. it just depends on how much you really care to modify your shift knob. cause to get it to look RIGHT, it takes a lot of work for something so simple.


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