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Hawk77FT 10-28-2013 09:08 PM

Eibach Sportlines requirements
 
Hi all,

I am getting a good deal on some Eibach Sportlines. I was just wondering what else do i need to have the correct camber. The last thing I want is inside or uneven tire wear.

From what i have read on the forum I need to go with the following:

Front - Whiteline camber bolts
Rear
- Whiteline rear camber adjustment bushing kit (KCA 326) OR lca (someone recommended SPC but I am a bit concerned about the quality of them unless I am wrong and they have changed their design (to a one solid arm).

Anyone that has done theirs? What did you install afterwards to correct the camber front and back?

FT-86 SpeedFactory 10-28-2013 09:38 PM

The SPC arms are solid and have been for quite some time now.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38527

SPC is a solid way to go without breaking the bank. :)

Hawk77FT 10-29-2013 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory (Post 1299153)
The SPC arms are solid and have been for quite some time now.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38527

SPC is a solid way to go without breaking the bank. :)

I have sent you a PM.

For the Eibach Sportline in particular would the whiteline camber adjustment do the job? or i need to go with LCA's?

OICU812 10-29-2013 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawk77FT (Post 1299525)
I have sent you a PM.

For the Eibach Sportline in particular would the whiteline camber adjustment do the job? or i need to go with LCA's?

Bushings are a pita and very labor intensive. Been there done that go LCA IMO.

Hawk77FT 11-11-2013 01:59 AM

Ok, so I am getting the SPC lca's for the rear, SPC crusher bolts for the fronts and the KCA 435 for the front (to maintain or at least bring it closer to the geometry of the car). my question is, considering the 1.4 drop, do i need to get the rear adjustable toe arms to be able to adjust the toe to 0 or slight negative? i dont want to get an uneven tire wear and play too much with the geometry of the car.

Sportline guys out there, did you get the rear adjustable toe arms to keep the alignment within the stock limits? (or close)

boredom.is.me 11-11-2013 02:28 AM

I got 0 toe without aftermarket toe arms. I didn't even have to change the stock toe bushings to the ones that come with the SPC LCAs.

Davesta619 11-11-2013 05:00 AM

I'm planning on getting sportlines too, 18" wheels staggered. I was only planning on getting the springs. Will I need to buy control arms, etc or will I be okay without them? My car is just for normal driving, no track or anything.

Hawk77FT 11-11-2013 07:30 AM

How hard is to replace the toe arms?

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boredom.is.me 11-11-2013 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Davesta619 (Post 1324319)
I'm planning on getting sportlines too, 18" wheels staggered. I was only planning on getting the springs. Will I need to buy control arms, etc or will I be okay without them? My car is just for normal driving, no track or anything.

You do not NEED the LCA, but you will be running about -2 degrees of camber without them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawk77FT (Post 1324390)
How hard is to replace the toe arms?

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You really do not need to change any part related to rear toe.

Hawk77FT 11-11-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 1324715)
You do not NEED the LCA, but you will be running about -2 degrees of camber without them.



You really do not need to change any part related to rear toe.


Well, i dont want to run -2 degree camber really as I would like to keep the balance of the car as much as possible. With the drop, the toe is also affected which will lead to uneven tire wear which, as per my original post is the last thing I want. Lowering the car beyond the 1" will require some modifications to maintain the geometry of the suspension.

boredom.is.me 11-11-2013 05:37 PM

And I am telling you that I did not need to buy toe arms to zero my toe. I am at ~1 degree camber in the rear which is within factory specs.

I have SPC control arms. They come with optional toe bushings that increase the range adjustment, but they weren't needed either.

Hawk77FT 11-11-2013 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 1325414)
And I am telling you that I did not need to buy toe arms to zero my toe. I am at ~1 degree camber in the rear which is within factory specs.

I have SPC control arms. They come with optional toe bushings that increase the range adjustment, but they weren't needed either.

Oh thanks mate, ;)

Do you have the Sportlines on yours?

As far as I read on the forum, it seems that with the Sportlines, there is no way you could get within the factory specs without getting adjustable lca's so for SPC will do the trick! My only concern is that by going that low i might need to get the adjustable toe arms and I thought i would do it while i am at it.

BlueDubbinTDI 11-11-2013 06:01 PM

Fuck, are you serious? Pics with LCAs and pics without?

boredom.is.me 11-11-2013 06:12 PM

Factory settings still has some toe, so no it isn't exactly zero, but it is at the factory setting. I could have gotten better front settings, but I forgot to install the bolts...

I do not really have before and after pics, but this is where it is at with the settings shown.


Broken post...hold on.

boredom.is.me 11-11-2013 06:19 PM

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BlueDubbinTDI 11-11-2013 06:21 PM

Is the red printout an actual alignment with the stock LCAs?!

boredom.is.me 11-11-2013 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawk77FT (Post 1325449)
Oh thanks mate, ;)

Do you have the Sportlines on yours?

As far as I read on the forum, it seems that with the Sportlines, there is no way you could get within the factory specs without getting adjustable lca's so for SPC will do the trick! My only concern is that by going that low i might need to get the adjustable toe arms and I thought i would do it while i am at it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDubbinTDI (Post 1325512)
Is the red printout an actual alignment with the stock LCAs?!

Thanks for catching that. No, that is not with the stock LCA, but I loosely matched the lengths of the control arm mounting points.

BlueDubbinTDI 11-11-2013 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 1325515)
Thanks for catching that. No, that is not with the stock LCA, but I loosely matched the lengths of the control arm mounting points.

So you think everything will be in spec except rear camber?

eSOLOR 11-11-2013 07:49 PM

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't toe adjustable from factory? I know camber isn't. I've been doing lots of research too since I'm planning on lowering my car. You don't need camber bolts or rlca's but it would be a good idea to get some so you can align the car the way you want it. I was planning on going with the sportline springs but I'm going with the pro-kit after all.

boredom.is.me 11-11-2013 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDubbinTDI (Post 1325524)
So you think everything will be in spec except rear camber?

I didn't say that. When I had my alignment done, the LCA's were already on and the camber was adjusted. Camber adjustment effects toe. I do not know if proper toe can be achieved with the stock arms.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eSOLOR (Post 1325660)
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't toe adjustable from factory? I know camber isn't. I've been doing lots of research too since I'm planning on lowering my car. You don't need camber bolts or rlca's but it would be a good idea to get some so you can align the car the way you want it. I was planning on going with the sportline springs but I'm going with the pro-kit after all.

Yes toe is adjustable. I do not know the range of adjustment.


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