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sav 09-25-2013 04:58 AM

Rearview camera without drilling holes
 
Got this camera:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psda4698fd.png



And installed it where the key barrel used to be.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...pse7f92a75.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psf4ff0ecc.jpg

This camera is very small and is hardly noticeable:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ps746606c0.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ps8a34c723.jpg

Works great at night.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ps8c42f6cf.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psd6c0125a.jpg

The camera came with a long enough RCA cable included so all it cost me was $20 plus some electrical wire and easy splice clips. Very happy with the result.

Thanks to @Ryan86 for finding this camera in the first place.


Updated eBay link:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/170-HD-CMOS...AAAOSwGTRdnYcm

Sporran 09-25-2013 06:08 AM

Looks good Sav. How easy was it to install - do you have to remove any of the panels other than the inside trim?

sav 09-25-2013 06:16 AM

Thanks. It took some time but was easy enough.

Removed the plastic piece as pictured above to fit the camera as well as the boot trim on the left hand side and the one panel by the left hand side door to run the wires through. Power for the camera as well as head unit reverse trigger wires are fed from the reverse light.

There are 2 wires running to the radio - trigger wire and RCA.

Sporran 09-25-2013 06:30 AM

That doesn't sound too problematic - will need to check out how the plastic piece comes off though. One other question regarding the head unit trigger wire if you don't mind - doesn't the existing wiring harness contain a trigger wire to avoid the need to run one from the boot or were you able to tap into a reverse feed near the HU itself?

sav 09-25-2013 07:59 AM

I've also read about the existing harness but when testing with a multimeter it didn't look like it was working. Might be different on the FR-S so worth trying that first.

Sporran 09-25-2013 08:42 AM

Ok, I'll bear that in mind. Thanks for the info :thumbsup:

sav 09-25-2013 09:04 AM

No problem at all. Shout if you need any advice.

The panels are really easy to remove, the one by the door simply pops out. The piece on the boot uses 8mm nuts, just be careful not to drop them into the boot.

stugray 09-25-2013 01:34 PM

Do the stock head units (for the BRZ) have the IO to plug one of these in without modification?

DoomsdayJesus 09-26-2013 01:59 PM

What did you do with the key barrel? Just remove it and rely on the remote?

sav 09-26-2013 02:20 PM

Yep, removed it and sealed the hole after pulling the camera's wires through.

I've never used or needed a key to open the trunk on any car I've owned over the last 10 years so I doubt it'll ever be a problem.

foglesre 09-26-2013 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sav (Post 1235672)
I've never used or needed a key to open the trunk on any car I've owned over the last 10 years so I doubt it'll ever be a problem.

I didn't know it had a keyed lock...

sav 09-27-2013 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foglesre (Post 1236526)
I didn't know it had a keyed lock...

Exactly, you don't need it. With a license plate your key probably wouldn't fit anyway unless you've got keyless entry in which case the tiny pull out key fits fine.

Ryan86 09-30-2013 02:31 AM

Best camera for its price.

Nice job there Sav:thumbsup:

chjno86 09-30-2013 04:43 PM

Anybody with an frs tried this yet?

sav 09-30-2013 04:52 PM

One thing I need to mention - with the key barrel removed you obviously need to plug the hole. This is where your ingenuity comes in. :)

Flat Black VW 09-30-2013 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sav (Post 1242554)
One thing I need to mention - with the key barrel removed you obviously need to plug the hole. This is where your ingenuity comes in. :)

one other thing, you should probably unplug the switch in the trunk that makes the trunk only open with your key.

sav 09-30-2013 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flat Black VW (Post 1242606)
one other thing, you should probably unplug the switch in the trunk that makes the trunk only open with your key.

Where is this switch?

toysub 09-30-2013 08:31 PM

^^ Just a heads up... I've accidentally had the valet switch activated in the trunk and had to use the key to open the trunk with my keyless (smart) system.

Zoti 09-30-2013 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sav (Post 1235672)
Yep, removed it and sealed the hole after pulling the camera's wires through.

I've never used or needed a key to open the trunk on any car I've owned over the last 10 years so I doubt it'll ever be a problem.

You will regret it when you accidentally push the button inside the trunk. The only way to open the trunk is with the key if you do that.

sav 10-01-2013 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoti (Post 1242975)
You will regret it when you accidentally push the button inside the trunk. The only way to open the trunk is with the key if you do that.

Which button? I'm pretty sure I don't have a button inside the trunk?
Also, the seat folds flat from inside, so no problem.

rishi 10-01-2013 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sav (Post 1243396)
Which button? I'm pretty sure I don't have a button inside the trunk?
Also, the seat folds flat from inside, so no problem.

There's a valet button in the trunk, next to the left wheel well. If you push it, you can no longer use the the trunk release lever, key fob trunk button and keyless entry, so you'd to use need the actual key to enter. That way you can hand off the keyfob to a valet without them getting access to stuff in your trunk.

sav 10-01-2013 11:07 AM

Thanks, I've had a look - don't have that button.

Surely they could get into the trunk from inside by folding the seat flat if they wanted to?

rishi 10-01-2013 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sav (Post 1243801)
Thanks, I've had a look - don't have that button.

Might be differences in trim, but I was under the impression the valet button was standard on all 86 versions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sav (Post 1243801)
Surely they could get into the trunk from inside by folding the seat flat if they wanted to?

You have to pull two straps on the back of the seat to release the latches before you can fold it, so it's "secure" if you can't get in the trunk.

Flat Black VW 10-01-2013 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rishi (Post 1244200)
Might be differences in trim, but I was under the impression the valet button was standard on all 86 versions.



You have to pull two straps on the back of the seat to release the latches before you can fold it, so it's "secure" if you can't get in the trunk.

Yeah I would check again if I were you. I am pretty sure its always there. Many people have had issues getting in after the button being pressed by something rolling around in the trunk.

And like rishi said. The straps must be pulled from inside the trunk. So unless the seats are already folded down you will be locked out of your trunk.

mid_life_crisis 10-01-2013 07:46 PM

I would love to put one of these on my FR-S 10 but near as I can tell there is no way to use the stock HU as a display and I love the look of the mirror it came with, so what do I do for a viewscreen?

chjno86 10-02-2013 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sav (Post 1232615)
Thanks. It took some time but was easy enough.

Removed the plastic piece as pictured above to fit the camera as well as the boot trim on the left hand side and the one panel by the left hand side door to run the wires through. Power for the camera as well as head unit reverse trigger wires are fed from the reverse light.

There are 2 wires running to the radio - trigger wire and RCA.

can you show or tell where you ran the wires from the trunk to the radio?

thanks

sav 10-02-2013 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rishi (Post 1244200)
Might be differences in trim, but I was under the impression the valet button was standard on all 86 versions.



You have to pull two straps on the back of the seat to release the latches before you can fold it, so it's "secure" if you can't get in the trunk.

Thanks, ours is definitely different then. No button and no straps. You press 2 "buttons" on top of the seat on the inside to fold them flat.

sav 10-02-2013 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otaku (Post 1245517)
can you show or tell where you ran the wires from the trunk to the radio?

thanks

I didn't take pics unfortunately. Removed the trim on the left side of the trunk as well as the plastic piece next to the front seat and ran it through there. There is a nice channel for the wires.

sav 10-06-2013 04:42 PM

Had a closer look - you can see where the valet button is supposed to go but there is nothing there, it's just blank but the indentation is clearly visible.
http://www.cars101.com/subaru/brz/brz13-trunk6.jpg

Also, there are 2 slits where the straps go, but obviously no straps.

What I don't understand, what happens when you press these buttons from inside?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ps6b644dd8.png

nalc 10-07-2013 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sav (Post 1254422)
Had a closer look - you can see where the valet button is supposed to go but there is nothing there, it's just blank but the indentation is clearly visible.


Also, there are 2 slits where the straps go, but obviously no straps.

What I don't understand, what happens when you press these buttons from inside?

The buttons pop out when you pull the straps, and allow the seat to fall forward. Buttons down = locked, buttons up = unlocked. They are recessed, too, so there's no way to pull them up from the inside, but maybe if you glued or drilled a little hook or something to them that would allow you to pull them, it would work. Another thing you can do, if you are careful and take your time putting the seat up, is hold the straps so that they are wedged between the edges of the seat and the interior trim, which lets you pull them from the front or back.

sav 10-07-2013 09:30 AM

Thanks for the explanation - ours are different. Push the buttons and the seat gets released so you can fold it.

PSORngr 10-07-2013 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mid_life_crisis (Post 1244915)
I would love to put one of these on my FR-S 10 but near as I can tell there is no way to use the stock HU as a display and I love the look of the mirror it came with, so what do I do for a viewscreen?

You can use back-up cameras in the 10 Series (well, the 2014 HU which all 10 Series should have). Beatsonic has a DIY guide on their backup camera page. Requires one extra wire splice over the BRZ.

TheLaughingMan 01-07-2014 04:09 PM

I wouldn't recommend this on the American model at least. Like other posters have been saying, if the button is pushed you won't be able to get into the trunk. Additionally, I found out that if you disconnect that switch (or the circuit it is completing breaks for any other reason), then it reverts to key mode.

Edit: I suppose you could hardwire that circuit shut and remove the switch. Still the potential for getting locked out of my trunk like that scares me.

sav 01-07-2014 04:26 PM

Easy solution - drill a hole on the other side. Drill bit included with camera actually.
It's still a very small and neat camera, you don't have to mount it in the barrel hole.

B-R-Z 01-12-2014 06:08 PM

I accidentally hit this 'valet' button and was freaking out that I couldn't get into my trunk.

I'm going to order this cam and use the same install location... and see if I can permanently enable the switch, or re-route it inside of the cabin (hidden).

Just a few questions:

Has anyone wired this cam up to a US BRZ yet?

How is the camera secured\sealed into the key barrel hole?

Is it possible to install this without the beatsonic BCUS2 adapter? $72 seems steep.

nalc 01-12-2014 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B-R-Z (Post 1448476)
I accidentally hit this 'valet' button and was freaking out that I couldn't get into my trunk.

I'm going to order this cam and use the same install location... and see if I can permanently enable the switch, or re-route it inside of the cabin (hidden).

Just a few questions:

Has anyone wired this cam up to a US BRZ yet?

How is the camera secured\sealed into the key barrel hole?

Is it possible to install this without the beatsonic BCUS2 adapter? $72 seems steep.

You can pull pins from a PC front panel header and solder them to a RCA female plug and use those to add it to the 16-pin harness. They aren't the right pins but they'll fit. Otherwise, svxdc at ae64.com offers a much less expensive adapter to add a back-up camera to a BRZ, using the correct pins.

For the switch, I believe it's a simple closed to enable trunk, open to disable truck. I'm basing this off of my experience, where I've found that with the switch removed entirely, the trunk is disabled. You could probably use a vampire tap on each of the two wires to the switch, and use that to bypass the switch, or disconnect the switch and use a short piece of wire inserted into both contacts in the connector as a jumper.

B-R-Z 01-16-2014 12:51 AM

I wonder if anything can be bought at radio shack to connect to the stock harness. I'm hesitant to buy the harness because I plan to replace my HU once a decent android unit becomes available.

I wonder if these would work: http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...tent=CT2032231

DC2R 08-10-2014 12:01 AM

Easy to disable valet button?

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B-R-Z 08-10-2014 10:06 AM

I removed the switch from the panel and zip-tied it up high behind the panel so it can never be accidentally pressed.

You could disable it by cutting/soldering/crimping wires and all that but I don't like cutting any factory wiring.

DC2R 08-10-2014 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B-R-Z (Post 1891875)
I removed the switch from the panel and zip-tied it up high behind the panel so it can never be accidentally pressed.

You could disable it by cutting/soldering/crimping wires and all that but I don't like cutting any factory wiring.

Vampire tap from one lead to the other?

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