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ML 08-13-2013 08:14 AM

$10 Harbor Freight Catch Can
 
Picked this up at harbor freight for $8, got two 1/4" end fittings from auto store, gutted the inside of the "filter", reversed the spring to the outside of the "filter", and BAM...catch can.

This is after the first drive. (hour long drive) Yes, the zip ties are going away today.
http://i.imgur.com/9O0go99.jpg

p/n #68225
http://www.harborfreight.com/media/c...mage_13987.jpg

Gary in NJ 08-13-2013 08:38 AM

It aint pretty, but it sure is clever.

boredom.is.me 08-13-2013 10:34 AM

Just put a little tint on it and it's good to go.

Frostyman 08-13-2013 11:23 AM

Tint, nothing! I think it's cool seeing through it.

Yruyur 08-13-2013 11:47 AM

Nice. You have a pic of the spring reversal?

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SmsAlSuwaidi 08-13-2013 12:03 PM

Zip ties don't have to go. They do the job perfectly fine

DJCarbine 08-13-2013 12:07 PM

I ran one of these on a budget build I did a while back except I used a steel pot scrubber to catch the oil.... same thing thats stuffed into valve cover vents on smallblocks to vent pressure but trap oil

jamesm 08-13-2013 12:19 PM

i've used those before. all the function, none of the bling. just the way i like it :)

ML 08-13-2013 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yruyur (Post 1137541)
Nice. You have a pic of the spring reversal?

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I don't, but Its very simple though. It comes with the valve in the bottom always open which is bad. So disassemble the bottom, and take the spring out. then put it back together and put the spring between the bottom ring nut and the clip. Provides enough pressure to seal the inside.

mechaghost 08-13-2013 01:36 PM

genius! Needs some duct tape to complete it

Yruyur 08-13-2013 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ML (Post 1137814)
I don't, but Its very simple though. It comes with the valve in the bottom always open which is bad. So disassemble the bottom, and take the spring out. then put it back together and put the spring between the bottom ring nut and the clip. Provides enough pressure to seal the inside.

Ahh I gotcha ya. Wonder if I can find a petcock that would thread into that bottom hole for draining.

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leon78 08-13-2013 01:46 PM

This is full of Win! Thanks.

ML 08-13-2013 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yruyur (Post 1137841)
Ahh I gotcha ya. Wonder if I can find a petcock that would thread into that bottom hole for draining.

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You just push on the bottom and the valve opens, so you wouldn't need one, unless you had something else in mind.

Yruyur 08-13-2013 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ML (Post 1137873)
You just push on the bottom and the valve opens, so you wouldn't need one, unless you had something else in mind.

Yeah wanted to add a small hose to make it cleaner to drain.

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Foobar 08-13-2013 02:54 PM

Good job. I also recommend adding some copper or stainless steel wool in there to give the oil vapor some surface area to condense on to.

JDKane527 08-13-2013 02:54 PM

I'm interested to see how you mounted it. The first image doesn't seem to be working.

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ML 08-13-2013 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDKane527 (Post 1138044)
I'm interested to see how you mounted it. The first image doesn't seem to be working.

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Its really not mounted to anything. The hose is stiff enough that the can just kinda leans on the support bar

topazsparrow 08-13-2013 03:09 PM

What exactly is that thing marketed as? There's no Harbor freight in Canada, The next best thing is Princess Auto, but I'd need to know what I'm asking for if I go looking for it.

Gary in NJ 08-13-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ML (Post 1138050)
Its really not mounted to anything. The hose is stiff enough that the can just kinda leans on the support bar

The four screw holes at the top of would be perfect for mounting two cushioned clamps.

utekineir 08-13-2013 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topazsparrow (Post 1138077)
What exactly is that thing marketed as? There's no Harbor freight in Canada, The next best thing is Princess Auto, but I'd need to know what I'm asking for if I go looking for it.

Looks like a air\oil separator from compressor section

Tengu 08-13-2013 03:27 PM

why did you remove the filter?

07jazzrs5gt86 08-13-2013 03:28 PM

Great job for a cheap alternative oil catch can I'll definitely look into it and do it soon
Also I think its great for it to be clear so you'll know when you need to drain.
Thanks for posting

Foobar 08-13-2013 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topazsparrow (Post 1138077)
What exactly is that thing marketed as? There's no Harbor freight in Canada, The next best thing is Princess Auto, but I'd need to know what I'm asking for if I go looking for it.

It's a mini air line filter used in conjunction with air tools. It removes moisture and particulates from the air being pumped.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tengu (Post 1138115)
why did you remove the filter?

The filter media probably restricts quite a bit. Not sure that would be good for an air/oil separater or catch can use case. Would probably get clogged up with oil pretty easily as well. Typically you would want some loose material with a lot of surface area for the vapor to condense on to, and something that wont deteriorate or rust, since you don't want any of that crap going back into your engine.

Gary in NJ 08-13-2013 03:43 PM

ML, from a safety perspective, it would be worth investigating if you could safety wire the bottom fitting of the catch can to the top mount. This would keep it from twisting off the boss fitting. I would also run the safety wire through some clear tubing from top to bottom so the wire doesn't cut through the plastic oil trap.

ML 08-13-2013 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary in NJ (Post 1138152)
ML, from a safety perspective, it would be worth investigating if you could safety wire the bottom fitting of the catch can to the top mount. This would keep it from twisting off the boss fitting. I would also run the safety wire through some clear tubing from top to bottom so the wire doesn't cut through the plastic oil trap.

I'm having a hard time picturing, or understanding what you mean.

Gary in NJ 08-13-2013 04:07 PM

I hold a aircraft repairmen's certificate and I've done a little bit of motorcycle racing, so I'm a little obsessive about these things.

So the bottom part (plastic) of that air/oil separator just twists off. There is a possibility that the bottom could inadvertently twist off due to vibration. I would secure the plastic bottom to the metal top. Since there isn't a hole in the plastic body to insert twisted safety wire, you will need to attach something to the bottom drain fitting where you can pass safety wire. To keep the safety wire from damaging the plastic housing, I would encase the wire (that now runs from the top to the bottom) in plastic clear plastic tubing. I suggest clear so you can always inspect the condition of the safety wire.

Yruyur 08-13-2013 04:13 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Possibly use their larger unit

Item
68230

http://www.harborfreight.com/38-in-c...ter-68230.html


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ML 08-13-2013 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary in NJ (Post 1138209)
I hold a aircraft repairmen's certificate and I've done a little bit of motorcycle racing, so I'm a little obsessive about these things.

So the bottom part (plastic) of that air/oil separator just twists off. There is a possibility that the bottom could inadvertently twist off due to vibration. I would secure the plastic bottom to the metal top. Since there isn't a hole in the plastic body to insert twisted safety wire, you will need to attach something to the bottom drain fitting where you can pass safety wire. To keep the safety wire from damaging the plastic housing, I would encase the wire (that now runs from the top to the bottom) in plastic clear plastic tubing. I suggest clear so you can always inspect the condition of the safety wire.

Ok, I understand. I wasn't concerned about the collection container coming off mainly because there is a o-ring between it and the metal body, so it stays tight. But that is a good point if you think its something to be concerned with.

jamesm 08-13-2013 04:24 PM

you can get these at home depot or i believe walmart, as well.

Yruyur 08-13-2013 04:27 PM

Yeah they are standard air water seperators. I went through a few in my old shop. They all seem to be the same manufacturer just different paint or packaging. Hb by far was the cheapest.

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topazsparrow 08-13-2013 04:33 PM

For anyone not in the US:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Air-Filt...-/221261787281

Hard to be 2 dollar shipping from china.

Yruyur 08-13-2013 04:39 PM

I dont think you want that one since it is a lubricator too. You dont want to add oil to the air flow thats for air tools.

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Philly758 08-13-2013 04:52 PM

This is pretty trick. It looks clean enough and functional to me. What would the advantage be to buying a real catch can? Aesthetics and capacity?

JimmyMac 08-13-2013 07:24 PM

I've seen these used before, might be OK if you are NA, but don't use it for FI. The clear plastic will cracking over time. At least that's what my past research has brought up before I went with a real catch can.

Yruyur 08-13-2013 07:29 PM

There are chinese catch cans on ebay for around 20 bucks. It really is just a can with some baffles in it.

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jamesm 08-13-2013 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyMac (Post 1138705)
I've seen these used before, might be OK if you are NA, but don't use it for FI. The clear plastic will cracking over time. At least that's what my past research has brought up before I went with a real catch can.

that's not true at all, at least in my experience. i've ran these for years on turbo cars ranging from 8psi up to 23+psi. never any issues. only PITA is that you have to empty them more often than a 'real' (if paying more for something that serves the exact same purpose equally well makes it more 'real' i guess) catch can.

Grip Ronin 08-13-2013 07:48 PM

i did this with the other style they have at harbor frieght, right off the pcv

Calum 08-13-2013 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyMac (Post 1138705)
I've seen these used before, might be OK if you are NA, but don't use it for FI. The clear plastic will cracking over time. At least that's what my past research has brought up before I went with a real catch can.

These are made for use on compressors, their max rating is normally somewhere around 120 psi.

Calum 08-13-2013 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topazsparrow (Post 1138077)
What exactly is that thing marketed as? There's no Harbor freight in Canada, The next best thing is Princess Auto, but I'd need to know what I'm asking for if I go looking for it.

It's an air oil separator. Princess auto normally carries them, so does Canadian Tire.

Philly758 08-13-2013 09:01 PM

Doesn't look much different than this, only 1/4 the price.

http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/52205/10002/-1


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