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eckoflyte 07-16-2013 06:32 AM

Swaybar hitting control arm - adjustable links enough?
 
hey guys,

got around to fitting new coilovers and robispec control arms this weekend. Haven't taken the car off the stands yet as it seems I'll need a solution to this swaybar/control arm issue.

By the looks of it, I am not sure if the range on the adjustable links would be enough to clear the control arm. Most of the aftermarket links have about 20mm of adjustability to go longer (10mm) or shorter (10mm) than OEM, this is obviously a rough estimate. Will this be enough to fix this issue?

http://members.optushome.com.au/andr...controlarm.jpg

qoncept 07-16-2013 11:54 AM

Yes. Some people have cut and shortened the stock endlinks. For a $200 savings I probably would have to if my sway bar didn't come with them.

Slash 07-16-2013 12:06 PM

Funny my "cheap" Isis coilovers came with them.

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whataboutbob 07-16-2013 12:09 PM

I am not so much interested in the endlinks, are those Ohlins on that car?

qoncept 07-16-2013 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slash (Post 1073086)
Funny my "cheap" Isis coilovers came with them.

My "cheap" harbor freight angle grinder came with extra brushes.

neurokinetik 07-16-2013 07:11 PM

Shortening my endlinks was the only way to stop the contact between both my swaybar (StranoBar v2) and also the endlink bolts with the lower control arm. It was hitting on both sides (so I'm sure the bar was properly centered, lol).

I am using the Whiteline adjustable links, and they only seem to start out at stock length (I don't feel comfortable with the amount of threads engaged if made any longer) and go shorter from there.

Calum 07-16-2013 07:43 PM

I'm still shocked that @Racecomp Engineering or @robispec or @Sam Strano or @Whiteline or anyone one else I'm forgetting hasn't made a sway bar with straight arms. It would solve this issue and make the bar able to adjust.

onefasazn 07-16-2013 08:20 PM

I know Whiteline has universal endlinks with differing length center sections. Just measure what length you need and give them a call.

qoncept 07-16-2013 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calum (Post 1074332)
I'm still shocked that @Racecomp Engineering or @robispec or @Sam Strano or @Whiteline or anyone one else I'm forgetting hasn't made a sway bar with straight arms. It would solve this issue and make the bar able to adjust.

It's pretty tight in there. I think it might end up interfering with the wheel if it's not bent the way it is.

simpleisbest 07-16-2013 09:38 PM

Can't you adjust those control arms for more clearance?

RiskyTrousers 07-16-2013 09:43 PM

Is this at full droop? Have you checked clearance with the car on the ground?

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RiskyTrousers 07-16-2013 09:45 PM

Nevermind, took a closer look at the pic.

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eckoflyte 07-17-2013 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neurokinetik (Post 1074257)
Shortening my endlinks was the only way to stop the contact between both my swaybar (StranoBar v2) and also the endlink bolts with the lower control arm. It was hitting on both sides (so I'm sure the bar was properly centered, lol).

I am using the Whiteline adjustable links, and they only seem to start out at stock length (I don't feel comfortable with the amount of threads engaged if made any longer) and go shorter from there.

Thanks. I had a look at the whiteline spec page for the end links and it seems like it starts out at stock length of 25cm, and is able to be shortened down to 20cm. 5cm should more than cover me. These are exact specs as shown here:

http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_..._number=KLC179

eckoflyte 07-17-2013 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whataboutbob (Post 1073089)
I am not so much interested in the endlinks, are those Ohlins on that car?

They are indeed Ohlins. Cant comment on how they feel or handle as I've yet to take the car off the stands and go get an alignment.

eckoflyte 07-17-2013 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onefasazn (Post 1074424)
I know Whiteline has universal endlinks with differing length center sections. Just measure what length you need and give them a call.

Thanks. I did a quick google search for their universal endlinks and it turns out they make a bunch of end links with different lengths I can choose from all of which fit the FRS (12mm bolt)! Awesome, at least I know my problem is solveable.

eckoflyte 07-17-2013 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simpleisbest (Post 1074635)
Can't you adjust those control arms for more clearance?

You'd have to increase caster to bring the arm forward and away from the swaybar, but in that picture I already have it on max caster setting.

eckoflyte 07-17-2013 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiskyTrousers (Post 1074652)
Is this at full droop? Have you checked clearance with the car on the ground?

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Full droop or not, the swaybar should not come into contact with the arm throughout the wheel's full range of travel.

celica73 07-17-2013 08:46 AM

Adjust those pimp control arms until things clear. An extra degree or two of caster should do the trick.

celica73 07-17-2013 08:47 AM

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eckoflyte 07-17-2013 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celica73 (Post 1075531)
trol arms until things clear. An extra degree or two of caster should do the trick.

already on max caster. probably sitting at 7-8 degrees (whatever robispec advertised as the max range was). Cannot adjust any further

celica73 07-17-2013 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eckoflyte (Post 1075532)
already on max caster. probably sitting at 7-8 degrees (whatever robispec advertised as the max range was). Cannot adjust any further

Damn. It was worth a shot.

eckoflyte 08-02-2013 04:25 AM

Just to update this thread, the solution was straight forward. Whiteline end links worked perfectly with it allowing an adjustment of 5cm shorter than OEM which was more than enough to clear the control arms. Thanks all

celica73 08-02-2013 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eckoflyte (Post 1113000)
Just to update this thread, the solution was straight forward. Whiteline end links worked perfectly with it allowing an adjustment of 5cm shorter than OEM which was more than enough to clear the control arms. Thanks all

Now tell us about the Ohlins.

eckoflyte 08-02-2013 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celica73 (Post 1113092)
Now tell us about the Ohlins.

Haha, I've been taking my time doing the whole suspension installation at home over the last few weekends. Car is still waiting to be mounted with the new rims and tyres before I get an alignment. I'll have to reserve my performance judgment until I've driven on them spiritedly. I can say however it is still stiffer than OEM despite what many will say about how comfortable they are. However I've had Japanese Ohlins PCV in the past and they were horridly stiff on poor Australian roads and these fair much better. Once you go Ohlins, you don't go back.


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