Suggestion to Toyota: Cheap steelies on a track model
 

How about the option to downgrade the wheels (credit like $900 or however much the stock wheels and tires cost) and ship track models with cheap steelies in a 15"x6" or 16"x6" (depending on the brake size) so we can slap the wheels of our choice on the car once we make our purchase?

What do you guys think?

Love the idea man. I already made a thread asking what the probable rim width would be in the case that we get steelies :)

Bump for this thread!

The idea is awesome... but the reality will probably be they will try to bundle it with some other "track" package or something. And that honestly could go either way. It might be all awesome things that people want to have (a la Genesis Track Package - LSD, Brembos, etc)... or it might be just a bunch of stupid things to make it a package and then wouldn't be worth it.

That's how the EVO RS came in Japan... Steel wheels, no radio, no power anything, light weight aluminum roof.

Anyway... If the FT comes with 15s I want a credit for the crappy brakes that fit under them!

Steelies good....but i hope it would offset the cost of the car enough for me to get good aftermarket rims.

The reason that I voted no is because I will most likely be mounting all-season tires on the wheels that come with the car and purchasing an aftermarket set of wheels to put summer tires on. It's generally a good idea in climates where you get snow in the winter, me thinks.

really depends on how much it would save and how bad the factory alloys look.. i really dont like the OEM wheels that keep being shown.

I agree...the wheels on the concept have to go but it really doesn't matter to me. I would change the wheels right away.

I also agree with the tiny brakes that would have to fit under 15's which is why I think if it were done, it would be 16's minimum. Alloys are probably $1500-2000 for stocks with stock tires maybe? Steelies would be worth maybe $300?? the corresponding tires maybe $300-400 or so? So if they credited us $1000 for steelies and the smaller tires, I'd take it.

I live in San Diego so weather isn't an issue for me but I understand how some people would like to have a winter and summer set. They could then opt for the alloy option.

me agree.

That's why I think having cheap steelies would be an option only on the track model where the standard models (including track) would come with stock alloys...it's a win win if you ask me...

In 2004 the EVO came in 2 trims... The RS was a stripped down version that was also much more affordable while still having the same powertrain and brembo brakes.

EVO VIII RS: $26,799 msrp
Standard EVO VIII: $29,999 msrp

Toyota could do something similar, with similar differences in price.

Are you serious? This is the stupidest idea ever, who the fuck still wants steelies on there car

Maybe someone who won't keep the factory alloys anyway? :slap:


p.s. "Their" car.

Agreed. Really don't want any wheel size that would necessitate shitty brakes unless Enough comes of to buy some decent ones to replace em.

are you retarded?? read my post very carefully. Most enthusiasts change their wheels anyway so why pay more for wheels you don't want?

X2 double slap.

I love the concept rims, I can see where steelies would make sense for some, but I .prefer to get the rims from the factory. Factory rims run smoother then rims purchased afterwards. It always seems that the local tire guys can't balance rims after about 65-70mph. The best I have ever seen was 80mph. When I first purchased my Sky Redline, it would run up to 120 before giving me any balance feedback. I would rather have nice factory rims, even if their benefit is only for the first 35000miles....

Probably cause the factory uses a road force balancer not like the smaller shops that have balancers that only can do static and dynamic type of balance.

I want the rims from the FT-HS. Pure sex :wub:

read origialan post.. you will get money back or pay less if u chose for the steel wheels no cost you extra..

So read before post next time!:sigh:

Hypocrit.
Read before you post next time.

Deja vu? lol

Thanks Lex

No I'm not a retard, **** head. Manufacturers (especially Toyota) dont build cars anymore that cater to a specific niche like this. They build cars that EVERYONE WILL BUY (i.e. good looking cars with real world options)

They will not do something as sinical as putting steelies as an option that HARDLY ANYONE WILL BUY.

End of story. Dont get all butt hurt because I come in here and tell it like it is. All I was saying is that its not cost effective nor smart business sense to put ugly ass wheels on a car even as an option, just to cater to .5% of buyers...get it?

Ya, who would cater to .5% of the buyers... Supplying "stripped down" as an option? Well, BMW would for one.

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagam...n/IMG_4225.JPG

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagam...n/IMG_4631.JPG

I voted no, I'd rather have something that looks decent enough that can be dealt with for the time being until nicer wheels are purchased. But that's just me...

I wanna say BMW is an exception here... but Subie, Mitsu & few others do make limited editions. lol

http://www.buzzcritic.com/wp-content...-biw-630-1.jpg

A lot of companies go out of there way to support enthusiasts and racers. :respekt:

No offense to Ford, but I care less bout Ford. Anyways, yeah some auto companies go out of their way to support the enthusiasts and racers for sure.

Seriously, are you going to compare BMW to Toyota.

First off, show me where you can order this car from BMW. This car is a COMPLETLEY different type of automobile, this is a dedicated factory race preped shell. This is NOT A FACTORY OPTION. If it is, i would really like to see where to order one.

This is not the same as having a mass produced car with an options list that ignores economies of scale to cater to a small crowd.

ANYWAY, I am not here to argue, all I am saying is I dont think it will happen and in my opinion its kind of ignorant to expect it at all, its an asthetics issue, a cost issue, and its just not going to happen.

You are a total asshat.

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/cro...g-6_460x0w.jpg

And you know jack shit to boot.

Yeah, not a fan of FORD, myself.

+1
Agreed.

The options list wouldn't ignore economies of scale. It would have all the normal options, plus a couple less popular, but very welcome additions.
Don't call people ignorant, it shows off your ignorance.

You got it, buddy.
:thumbup:

why will it be bad business sense? It's an OPTION right?
make an FT86RS stripped down, minimal sound proofing, steelies, lightweight where-ever and i'll go for that one

it makes sense to offer the option, but i'll probably get the standard alloy wheels until i get a good chance to get a set of these:

http://www.harrisonmotorsports.com/s...LM_DSPK_sm.jpg

i don't think i want to rock steelies while i save up a few grand for wheels... come to think of it, how about they just offer the LM's to begin with and save me the trouble? :D

-Mike

Sure, why not... BMW and Lexus are direct competitors.

some dealers over here actually used to throw in aftermarket wheels when u buy the Evo RS as an incentive. Would be cool if it happens to the FT

i'll rock some white TE37s on a white FT
http://img.youtube.com/vi/UxJu3SGQMUw/0.jpg

holy hell that was funny :bellyroll:

lmao! haha yes it was.

Look, just had an idea and figured it would make sense for a car which a lot of buyers would like to use for drifting, the track, or some other form of racing either legal or illegal.

I'm all for a lightweight no frills option and would hope a set of "disposable" wheels would be included along with some savings. Heck, if a no frills option was $2000-3000 dollars cheaper than the normal model, that's a really nice set of wheels right there.

This car is being promoted already as a serious track car, one to compete with the Z for the hearts of enthusiasts who actually drive their cars the way they're meant to be driven. I don't think Toyota will do this but I figure if we get enough positive responses to threads such as this, Toyota will take notice and seriously consider it. I'm pretty sure they check up on and read forums like this one so why not talk about it?

Take your head out of your ass and go back to finger painting that helmet you're wearing...

+1

Last time I checked, almost every car model from almost every manufacturer has steel wheels with some BS flashy looking wheel cover. I don't think its a stretch to see it here either.

for GOOD summer tires, on a 17" wheel, i think we can safely say $250/tire, so $1000 right there. i think it kind of depends on each individual's definition of "really nice wheels." those BBS LM's i posted run in the neighborhood of $750/wheel. so we're talking $4000 for wheels and tires. i guess you could get some knockoffs for $250/wheel, but then again, what's the point? they wouldn't be lighter or stronger than the factory alloys.

see why i'll just stick with the factory alloys? there's no way in hell they'll give a $4000 discount.

-Mike