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supra2nv 06-29-2013 02:15 AM

What are your thoughts, on the human mind?
 
curious what you think:)

My general opinion is: we have a brain (pattern recognizers) to predict the future, and to move and manipulate things around. I can elaborate more, but these are the main ones I'd start with:)

(I study the mind)

whaap 06-29-2013 08:19 AM

I haven't given much thought to it. I'm just glad I don't have Alzheimers.

Rayme 06-29-2013 09:06 AM

From everything I read, the mind is the in between of the physical world and inner self (spirit). The mind is pretty much just another part of the body needed for survival. The more complicated the environment, the more brain power/mind is needed. And more brain-power leads to a fuller spirit. I'm very much convinced we created a world that is literally poison for our minds, we stresses over things that never existed for the millions of years we evolved to our current point.

I really have no direction here, just blabbing lol.

supra2nv 06-29-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopilot (Post 1034082)
I really have no direction here, just blabbing lol.

the original post was open ended on purpose...interesting commentary I'm with you on a lot of your points:)

supra2nv 06-29-2013 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopilot (Post 1034082)
From everything I read, the mind is the in between of the physical world and inner self (spirit). The mind is pretty much just another part of the body needed for survival. The more complicated the environment, the more brain power/mind is needed. And more brain-power leads to a fuller spirit. I'm very much convinced we created a world that is literally poison for our minds, we stresses over things that never existed for the millions of years we evolved to our current point.

I really have no direction here, just blabbing lol.

the brain adapts on the fly, reprograms, gets smarter, dumber, it adapts to the environment, and diet impacts the brain as well haha.

as Ray Kurzweil put it..."your thinking creates your mind." it's true. you think of French all day, you freaking begin to "learn" French. If you stress over something allllllllll the time, the section of your brain (Amygdala) involved in fear/stress/threat begins to strengthen as it becomes more active, but unfortunately causes the frontal cortex (the smart part of the brain, logic, art, poetry, invention) to shrink as the survival system of the brain shuts down the frontal cortex and lets the fear center of the brain take over. over time, this rewires too...

WingsofWar 06-29-2013 12:04 PM

This is kind of a too broad topic, iv studied the mind too and have a BA in Clinical Psychology, and was actually considering going into neurology. But as life would have it I found myself having a distaste for exploring the biological mind and more interested in the natural and supernatural aspect of the human condition. Which lead me to write my dissertation on Quantum Psychology, and how the thoughts and ideas alone can create and manipulate the universe on both a small and galactic scale.

supra2nv 06-29-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WingsofWar (Post 1034256)
This is kind of a too broad topic, iv studied the mind too and have a BA in Clinical Psychology, and was actually considering going into neurology. But as life would have it I found myself having a distaste for exploring the biological mind and more interested in the natural and supernatural aspect of the human condition. Which lead me to write my dissertation on Quantum Psychology, and how the thoughts and ideas alone can create and manipulate the universe on both a small and galactic scale.

Wave particle duality, measurement problem, collapsing of wave function, atoms are empty space, everything around us is perception of light of some form, photons traveling in "tiny" black holes called pupils. :).

My line of thought

supra2nv 06-29-2013 12:53 PM

Electromagnet field that is

WingsofWar 06-29-2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by supra2nv (Post 1034329)
Wave particle duality, measurement problem, collapsing of wave function, atoms are empty space, everything around us is perception of light of some form, photons traveling in "tiny" black holes called pupils. :).

My line of thought

Very good!

What iv really been trying to find are avenues of discovery that would apply to quantum psychology.

Ever watch Ghost Hunter? or those Paranormal Investigation shows where EVP and and IR and thermal cameras pick up images and signatures that should not be there? And always in the form of humanoid with some type of intelligence.

I for one believe in ghosts based on 10 years of personal experience, but I also believe those ghosts are bound by the laws of nature. I think the "spirit realm" is a false illusion that allows people to place these phenomenon into a categories that kill off potential scientific research.

IMO, as we live, our body and mind both absorb and project energy. This energy can be an "imprint" or "eco" of ourselves that the surrounding environment absorbs.

Without really getting into it, i could theorize that some forms of energy can have consciousness. If this is the possibility, then its quite possible (even if far fetched) that the big bang theory and the creation of the universe was the result of single thought or idea from dense marble of energy.

supra2nv 06-29-2013 01:49 PM

:). The earth was flat once as well;). It's all about putting your mind in the correct frame of reference is the way I look at a lot of things.

No tv here:(. Just think, then find people who talk about this stuff, then I dig further. Im a physics guy by nature... Bohr, Heisenberg, ...just read up on those guys. I'm merging psychology with physics with many other things in my head. My pattern recognizers are on overload just seeing a lot off cool stuff with new eyes and new mind...:). Observations .
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Originally Posted by WingsofWar (Post 1034370)
Very good!

What iv really been trying to find are avenues of discovery that would apply to quantum psychology.

Ever watch Ghost Hunter? or those Paranormal Investigation shows where EVP and and IR and thermal cameras pick up images and signatures that should not be there? And always in the form of humanoid with some type of intelligence.

I for one believe in ghosts based on 10 years of personal experience, but I also believe those ghosts are bound by the laws of nature. I think the "spirit realm" is a false illusion that allows people to place these phenomenon into a categories that kill off potential scientific research.

IMO, as we live, our body and mind both absorb and project energy. This energy can be an "imprint" or "eco" of ourselves that the surrounding environment absorbs.

Without really getting into it, i could theorize that some forms of energy can have consciousness. If this is the possibility, then its quite possible (even if far fetched) that the big bang theory and the creation of the universe was the result of single thought or idea from dense marble of energy.


Dustin 06-29-2013 02:31 PM

I can count to 100 all by myself

supra2nv 06-29-2013 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dustin (Post 1034457)
I can count to 100 all by myself

That would be linear

sklimo 06-29-2013 05:18 PM

The mind can do whatever you want it to. My mother taught me how to make itches not itch anymore. If you believe it doesn't itch it won't. Same with pain. When something hurts injury or tattoos, I got a lot, can take it cuz make my brain not make it hurt. I know our brain has way more potential then we use as humans, but got no clue to the extent.

dsmx17 06-29-2013 05:23 PM

"tonight on fringe"

YukiHachiRoku 06-29-2013 05:25 PM

I smoke a lot of weed to try to slow down my mind because I think too much - it's hellah annoying.

Asphalt~86 06-29-2013 05:30 PM

My general opinion is this:

The mind creates and composes everything that is before us. Everything essentially is an object of itself but not separate in itself. A chair is a chair because the mind has create that description, that pattern, into what that object is. A dog can also then be a chair.

Everything we do in our daily lives is an idea, a thought, a process. We don't need the material quantification of our imagination to make it anymore real than what it is. Thus the future could be a future of stasis within the physical and active within the mental, prolonging life and creating an interactive reality our hologram of what the basis is.

supra2nv 06-29-2013 05:31 PM

:)
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Originally Posted by Asphalt~86 (Post 1034692)
My general opinion is this:

The mind creates and composes everything that is before us. Everything essentially is an object of itself but not separate in itself. A chair is a chair because the mind has create that description, that pattern, into what that object is. A dog can also then be a chair.

Everything we do in our daily lives is an idea, a thought, a process. We don't need the material quantification of our imagination to make it anymore real than what it is. Thus the future could be a future of stasis within the physical and active within the mental, prolonging life and creating an interactive reality our hologram of what the basis is.


sklimo 06-29-2013 05:41 PM

The show Brain Games on National Geographic has also taught me a lot about our brain

supra2nv 06-29-2013 05:46 PM

fractal pattern, Mandelbrot

fatoni 06-29-2013 07:06 PM

i believe in solipsism and i dont think that anyone could disagree with me.

Dimman 06-29-2013 07:14 PM

Mind is software, brain is hardware. Simple.

Well as simple as non-fixed hardware and software can be.
@fatoni , clever.

supra2nv 06-29-2013 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 1034826)
i believe in solipsism and i dont think that anyone could disagree with me.

Kind of tangent but Along those lines, one cannot prove or disprove consciousness

fatoni 06-29-2013 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by supra2nv (Post 1034841)
Kind of tangent but Along those lines, one cannot prove or disprove consciousness

i think descartes kinda proved that with the whole cogito ergo sum. also, what i said was kind of a joke. if you havent noticed, i love to spend a lot of brain power making smart things sound stupid or vice versa.

Hindi 06-29-2013 08:01 PM

Well if I count myself I count to one. If I count my selves I count to 16. If each one of them counts myself they only count to one. Proof that I have no friends within this head of theirs.

supra2nv 06-29-2013 08:46 PM

We can think about ourselves thinking;)

supra2nv 06-29-2013 08:47 PM

Mind creates matter, matter does not create mind...

Edit: my opinion

supra2nv 06-30-2013 10:13 AM

The greatest shortcoming of the human race, is its inability to understand the exponential function. Albert Bartlett

supra2nv 06-30-2013 10:26 AM

Fractal layers beginning with primitive "lizard" brain evolving into more layers stacked ultimately creating a neocortex in smaller mammals and ultimately evolving into a larger frontal cortex as we have which allows us for more "intellectual" capabilities.

Laymans perspective lol

Hindi 06-30-2013 10:27 AM

So we have onion brains?

supra2nv 06-30-2013 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 1034901)
i think descartes kinda proved that with the whole cogito ergo sum. also, what i said was kind of a joke. if you havent noticed, i love to spend a lot of brain power making smart things sound stupid or vice versa.

I also purposefully take things literally to create uncomfortable moments with strangers:)

supra2nv 06-30-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Hindi (Post 1035589)
So we have onion brains?

Maybe...and some think the universe is like an onion too lol

Hindi 06-30-2013 10:34 AM

Ogres are onions, brains are onions, the universe is an onion... And everything still tastes like chicken...

supra2nv 06-30-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Hindi (Post 1035598)
Ogres are onions, brains are onions, the universe is an onion... And everything still tastes like chicken...

So we must incorporate the code to onions and chickens in order to find the grand unified theory if there is one? Sweet lol

Hindi 06-30-2013 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by supra2nv (Post 1035652)
So we must incorporate the code to onions and chickens in order to find the grand unified theory if there is one? Sweet lol

Hmmm I wonder how many grant dollars we could get to work on this?

supra2nv 06-30-2013 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hindi (Post 1035598)
Ogres are onions, brains are onions, the universe is an onion... And everything still tastes like chicken...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hindi (Post 1035676)
Hmmm I wonder how many grant dollars we could get to work on this?

I just wanna think about it for now. ;)

ahausheer 06-30-2013 12:30 PM

Some thoughts:

Believing we are superior because we can think about thinking is just philosophical masturbation that will not give us the satisfaction of attaining the universal truths we seek.

Other animals are idiots who don't know it, we are smart enough to know we are idiots but we choose to lie to ourselves.

My personal belief is that we don't have the mental capacity to rationally understand our human mind or the ''human condition'' and it is futile to try.
Our pursuit of philosophical truths is no more attainable than a cockroach understanding god.

Those few that have developed a widely accepted explanation of the human condition are simply better writers than those that have not, their argument is not stronger, just verbosely and linguistically louder.

(End of my pessimistic philosophical rant, carry on).

Hindi 06-30-2013 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ahausheer (Post 1035769)
Some thoughts:

Believing we are superior because we can think about thinking is just philosophical masturbation that will not give us the satisfaction of attaining the universal truths we seek.

Other animals are idiots who don't know it, we are smart enough to know we are idiots but we choose to lie to ourselves.

My personal belief is that we don't have the mental capacity to rationally understand our human mind or the ''human condition'' and it is futile to try.
Our pursuit of philosophical truths is no more attainable than a cockroach understanding god.

Those few that have developed a widely accepted explanation of the human condition are simply better writers than those that have not, their argument is not stronger, just verbosely and linguistically louder.

(End of my pessimistic philosophical rant, carry on).

That post has too many syllables. Apologize!

Haha


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