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Asphalt~86 06-22-2013 05:16 PM

Random Observation concerning the Curse.
 
I've been looking at a good majority of the photos of all the destroyed cars and it seems like a good majority of them appear to be stock and completely unmolested.

I looked at 24 pictures, 19 of which all appeared 100% stock.

Random coincidence?

Sgt.Beardface 06-22-2013 05:19 PM

How many have shown the motor, underneath the car, interior, etc. Seems like not a coincidence just a lack of pictures showing anything besides an accident. People on here have admitted to having accidents. It happens. That's why they are called accidents.

-Chuck

Asphalt~86 06-22-2013 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt.Beardface (Post 1018720)
How many have shown the motor, underneath the car, interior, etc. Seems like not a coincidence just a lack of pictures showing anything besides an accident. People on here have admitted to having accidents. It happens. That's why they are called accidents.

-Chuck

I took this into consideration as well.

I looked in every possible spot for aftermarket pieces. Rear shots I looked for exhausts, engine bay I looked for anything, even soundtube deletes, and interior shots I checked for shiftboots and headunits. The stocks were stock all around.

Ledippen 06-23-2013 03:18 AM

i personally believe its the tires its like an on and off switch . grip or no grip

wrxgoose 06-23-2013 03:22 AM

the curse isn't only 86 driver causing them. i was stopped at a red light, so grip or no, it wouldn't have mattered.

and yes, mine was stock

Juvenile 06-23-2013 03:27 AM

Kids with no money for mods maybe?

SPEEDGOD 06-24-2013 12:59 PM

I don't know which photos you're talking about, but the factors of those getting into accidents are the ones who turn off traction control

and those who mod their car tend to try to push the car to the limit with their new setup

dem00n 06-24-2013 01:04 PM

Stock kills? :bellyroll:

Whats next? Leaky taillights cause accidents too?

Rampage 06-24-2013 01:09 PM

It seems another big factor is that the cars are small and sit low. SUVs and Pick-up trucks do not see them. My car is even smaller and lower and I cannot begin to count how many times I have had to take evasive action to avoid getting run over by some guy in a pick-up or woman in a SUV. Most of them were talking on the cell phones at the time too. Not all the accidents have been due to the owner's driving error.

KGFRS86 06-24-2013 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juvenile (Post 1019479)
Kids with no money for mods maybe?

I know a lot of adults who can't afford our car, never mind mod it. Kinda f***ed to put it on the kids.

thill 06-24-2013 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dem00n (Post 1021554)
Stock kills? :bellyroll:

Whats next? Leaky taillights cause accidents too?

Don't forget about the chirping fuel pumps! Those things are distracting!

Ryuu0u 06-24-2013 01:51 PM

I think Illuminati . . .. . . :tinfoilhat:

Also I blame rap music.

FRiSson 06-24-2013 03:10 PM

The FR-Z is a low-visibility vehicle (particularly in black, gray and under some conditions, white). It sits lower than others cars, has relatively little reflective area and has offers poor visibility to the rear quarters for the driver. That being said, it is more likely, than for example a Tahoe, to be struck. In addition, its drivers skew younger and less-experienced and therefore have higher accident rates.

IntotheOcean 06-24-2013 10:42 PM

All this curse nonsense is starting to freak me out....

travelmonkey 06-24-2013 11:21 PM

When my car was hit by a wheel on the freeway, I had exhaust, work wheels, Toyota emblems and clear side markers on it. Luckily the damage was cosmetic and my insurance has covered it completely. I had the car for 3 weeks and was returning from the dealer who had installed my license plates 10 minutes before the incident. This was 2 weeks ago (June 11th) and my car goes into the shop on July 10th. They estimated it would take a week so I'll get my car back on July 18th. It sucks driving around with a new car that looks like it has a black eye. This has also pushed back my timetable for installing coil overs, rear control arms and getting it tinted.
As much as a hassle as this has been with paperwork, insurance, police reports and estimates, the car can be fixed but my head cannot. I count my blessings because half a second quicker and the wheel could have gone through my windshield instead of smashing my hood/fender/headlight/bumper.

To the OP: glad you weren't hurt; the car can be fixed. good luck!

Bonburner 06-24-2013 11:37 PM

Mine was when it was parked at in n out lol
i was about to take my first bite of my burger inside when someone told me my car was struck haha

Second time was because no grip tires while braking -.-;

Juvenile 06-25-2013 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KyleGato (Post 1021577)
I know a lot of adults who can't afford our car, never mind mod it. Kinda f***ed to put it on the kids.

I said maybe.

Xenocide117 06-25-2013 02:10 AM

They are all RWD also! Coincidence? Ancient Astronaut Theorists believe it isn't! I would say its people not knowing how to handle RWD in the accidents caused by the driver of the car.

Ryuu0u 06-25-2013 11:38 AM

It was as Nostradamus predicted! Ty Discovery channel now my eyes are open to the horrors of the FR-S

whaap 06-25-2013 11:49 AM

Whether someone wants, doesn't want, can afford or can't afford to mod their cars has nothing to do with their driving skills. I think you will find the crowd of people (young) that Toyota aimed this car at is the problem. It's sort of like giving someone a Superman suit and then they think they can stop a train.
:burnrubber:

Sivtec 06-25-2013 12:14 PM

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe everyone is blowing this thread out of proportion. I believe the OP was just making an observation rather than blaming the actual accident on cars being stock.

bcj 06-25-2013 12:46 PM

A series 10 spontaneously coming into existence in the wing box caused the flight 800 crash.

Caused the delivery delays too. #86 couldn't be found where they put it last.

zaptorque 06-25-2013 12:59 PM

Maybe that's because statistically most 86s are kept stock?

FRSRAVEN 07-03-2013 02:34 AM

Another one bit the dust today. Came across a Hot Lava FR-S in a ditch on a commonly used windy road. Bad damage, including subframe damage front and rear. No injuries. No pictures as I was on scene helping and it didn't seem appropriate.

He said he swerved to avoid a deer (daylight, dry conditions), and lost control. From looking at the tire marks, the back end stepped out after his first avoidance maneuver, he tried to bring it back around but over corrected, and it swung back the other way eventually doing a 180 and sending him off the road backwards, into the ditch and a ranchers fence (no damage to the fence).

He said he was driving with all the driver aids off. Got the feeling he was a member of the "nannies are for pussies" crowd. I politely informed him that in this instance he could have avoided the loss of control, or at least gone off the roadway in a much more controllable manner, had the driver aids been left active. He agreed.

In keeping with the theme of this thread, the car was completely stock, prius tires and all.
Nice guy, had ran into him before. He was the owner of the only other FR-S in my area. Pretty sure his car will be in the shop for awhile, and will never drive the same again. Pity.

Fluxx 07-03-2013 07:06 AM

Mine is the only one in the area, and it's bone stock. So if the crazy haired guy from Ancient Aliens is correct, I had better hurry and get the CAI and exhaust system immediately or I'm guaranteed to crash! I think one of the factors is that the FR-S/BRZ is the first rear wheel drive car a lot of these people have driven and it catches them when they overestimate their abilities.

campy 07-03-2013 08:10 AM

I think the real reason is that the BRZ owners are secretly out to get us.

Dadhawk 07-03-2013 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zaptorque (Post 1024042)
Maybe that's because statistically most 86s are kept stock?

Pretty much. Bottom line is that most cars remain relatively stock through their useful life, or until they fall enough in price that they are used as "donor bodies" for builds.

There is always going to be a higher percentage of modded cars on a car enthusiast forum than in real life, so our view of the world here is skewed. Even with that, I'm willing to bet that over 50% of the cars represented on this forum would appear stock when you look at them in a photo.

Also, it would depend on what you mean by modded. I consider mine stock even though I have made some minor changes to it from the way it was delivered to me.

Mikem53 07-03-2013 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rampage (Post 1021566)
It seems another big factor is that the cars are small and sit low. SUVs and Pick-up trucks do not see them. My car is even smaller and lower and I cannot begin to count how many times I have had to take evasive action to avoid getting run over by some guy in a pick-up or woman in a SUV. Most of them were talking on the cell phones at the time too. Not all the accidents have been due to the owner's driving error.

This is fact.. After driving small low sports cars for many years.. They are harder to see in traffic from taller cars with idiots on the phone.
I had turned my DRLs off because I didn't like the look of them with their yellowish glow. I turned them back on recently due to the fact it helps others see my diminutive ride coming on thru..

thill 07-03-2013 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSRAVEN (Post 1042154)
Another one bit the dust today. Came across a Hot Lava FR-S in a ditch on a commonly used windy road. Bad damage, including subframe damage front and rear. No injuries. No pictures as I was on scene helping and it didn't seem appropriate.

He said he swerved to avoid a deer (daylight, dry conditions), and lost control. From looking at the tire marks, the back end stepped out after his first avoidance maneuver, he tried to bring it back around but over corrected, and it swung back the other way eventually doing a 180 and sending him off the road backwards, into the ditch and a ranchers fence (no damage to the fence).

He said he was driving with all the driver aids off. Got the feeling he was a member of the "nannies are for pussies" crowd. I politely informed him that in this instance he could have avoided the loss of control, or at least gone off the roadway in a much more controllable manner, had the driver aids been left active. He agreed.

In keeping with the theme of this thread, the car was completely stock, prius tires and all.
Nice guy, had ran into him before. He was the owner of the only other FR-S in my area. Pretty sure his car will be in the shop for awhile, and will never drive the same again. Pity.

I just don't get turning the nannies off for everyday driving. It really makes you wonder how many of these accidents could have been avoided had people just left them on when they are not in a more controlled environment. Glad the guy is okay, things could have been much worse.

amilleri 07-03-2013 12:35 PM

I've never driven a rwd car before so you bet your ass I'll be keeping nanny mode on.


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