Just got an alignment..
 

Getting Ready
http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/...ps03201a3b.jpg

BEFORE
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AFTER
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I wanted to have less camber in the rear but he said it's better like this?
For the people that know very well alignments, this seems good?

I would not be happy with that alignment. Too much rear camber, not enough front, and it's uneven.

Do you have adjustable parts or is it all factory? If it's all factory then he can't really do anything with camber so it's not his fault.

- Andy

Less than -3 in the rear? Or did you mean "less negative" as in -2 or so? Seems like a lot of negative in the rear if that's stock. What do you have for adjustment back there? Are you lowered, etc? Need some more info. Looks like they just changed toe and any other small changes were are result of that.

Front needs to be more negative. If you're not at least -1 degree, you're not having as much fun as you could be. I don't recall exactly, but I'm somewhere between -1 and -1.4 or so. It really woke up the cornering.

His build thread says they are HSD coilovers. So it's probably dropped with no adjustment parts in the rear.

It looks like those come with camber plates, my guess is the shop or OP didn't know how to adjust them?

Everything is still stock, I don't know exactly what else to get to adjust,
I have the HSD coilovers.

Yeah thats what i meant more straighter in the rear. I just have the coilovers, and i dropped it.

I played around with the camber plate on the top in the front , instead of having the knob at 0 i have it at -4. :S hard to explain,
http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/...ps47e9cfb9.jpg
I have the black knob at -4, isn't that how you adjust them?

The knob is for stiffness of the strut. The slotted holes with 3 bolts (should be 4...did one snap a head?) are where you adjust camber. Slide towards the engine for more negative camber, towards the fender for more positive. This throws off toe, so you shouldn't just move it around without an alignment.

The shop should know this. They were probably just putting your car back to "OEM spec" or as close as possible with the parts they had to work with. Which is dumb. Who gets camber plates to adjust for 0 degrees?

Also, I'm not sure about those coilovers, but some allow you to turn the top plate so that the slots are not directly perpendicular to the car's centerline. Meaning that moving inwards would also move them BACK (i.e. changing caster as well).

Problem is I don't know a lot about suspension, besides lowering it lol
I can go back, and get re adjusted. He was trying to bring it back to OEM as possible. One did snap but it got replaced and fix. but I got
ENGINE | I I I I I I I I O I I I I I I I I | FENDER
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So it's on -4? which i thought is a lot of camber, so i should adjust it -6? Or just leave it as is since it'll screw up the toe, and pick up this http://ft86speedfactory.com/cusco-ad...e-lca-100.html and then get an alignment?

Cusco LCA is a fine product, SPC will do the job though for half the price.

These are two different things, front vs. rear.

Front: I have no idea what the hashes should indicate in regards to acutal degrees, but they should be able to get you at least -1 degrees front.

Rear: Camber is not adjustable stock or with any coilovers, since they are not a strut in back. You need either adjustable LCAs or rear upper control arm bushings like what Whiteline makes. I haven't done either, but the bushings look like a huge pain to install and labor to do this and adjust might just make the LCAs a better deal anyway.

Alright i'll head back to get it aligned when i order my Cusco LCAs.

I'm ok driving like this those right?

So for the front i should be -2 and the rear -1.5?

The hashes are more like guidelines, they are not really exact.

Your camber plates may be installed backwards. Hard to tell from the pic.

What type of driving do you do? Any auto-x or track days?

You should probably get some rear lower control arms so you can adjust rear camber.

- Andy

I do dragging once in a blue moon. but I might do one or two tracking days once the car is done

thinking of getting these,
http://www.racerxfabrication.com/pag...art/index.html

If the strut brace mounts are pointing towards the engine bay, then the camber plates are in backwards.

You can also raise the rear a bit to decrease the negative camber. Having -3 in the back is quite a lot relative to the front camber. I'm guessing you're dropped at about 2".

I mentioned that to him yesterday. I am almost certain they are installed backwards. To fix this you should be able to put the car on jackstands, remove the front wheels, and unbolt the three nuts on the top then lower it enough to rotate the top hat such that they are ~180 degrees from where they are now.

I'll take more pics of it soon i'm gonna check it out now

Here's what driver side looks like
http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/...ps56415f64.jpg

I almost want to say revert to stock and get some springs cause I don't know if coilovers are right for you

Yeah, that doesn't look right. No way would you want to have all that adjustability towards the positive...at least not for any reason I can think of.

Yeah, like I suspected...they're backwards. You pretty much should start over and work with a respected suspension shop.

- andy

It only goes that way, no other way

Then it's on the wrong side of the car. You'll have to pull both struts out and swap them side to side.

Looks like you got your left & right crossed up

Whats the worst that can happen if i dont swap them?
I dont see the big issue? i've been running on these for about 4000KM no issues?

It looked like the ends were swapped to me @ first... Then I was like--is this alignment for real?

He really told you the rear alignment 'is better like this' ?(!) lol

Running the car on the street like that is probably not going to hurt anything persay, but isn't optimal. Like others have said, something is not installed correctly with the plates.

For instance here is a picture of some Stance coilovers... The plates should look like this:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8356/8...eb3406fe_o.jpg

I'll switch them when I get a chance..

And yeah GTB people in garages here are cracked, id rather do stuff myself and at least if I screw up it's on me than someone who I pay to screw up... Very few reliable garages here. Sucks :(

Doesn't the top plate have to be perpendicular to the wheel?

Not necessarily. Some top hats have multiple mounting positions for caster adjustment as well as camber. But the hole/slot should be biased towards the engine side.

They do sit pretty much perpendicular to the wheel, if you're looking at the picture of the red car remember that the stock strut brace runs to the firewall, not between strut towers.