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Captain Snooze 05-29-2013 03:45 AM

Inexpensive wheel to fit Sprint Kit.
 
Can anybody suggest a cheapish 17x7/7.5/8 wheel that will clear the Essex Sprint Kit? I am wanting a spare wheel but I don't want to have to resort to a space saver. (Wheel spacers not allowed.)

Ta

GTM_Challenge 05-29-2013 10:56 AM

RPF1 should fit

CSG Mike 05-29-2013 10:59 AM

17x8 +45 RPF1

It's what we use on our car.

mackdaddytran 05-29-2013 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GTM_Challenge (Post 966765)
RPF1 should fit

Wouldn't necessarily call RPF1's cheap

CSG Mike 05-29-2013 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mackdaddytran (Post 966783)
Wouldn't necessarily call RPF1's cheap

Anything cheaper... I would consider suspect or of questionable quality.

You bought a genuine Toyota/Scion/Subaru, not some off brand, right?

Dave-ROR 05-29-2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 966819)
Anything cheaper... I would consider suspect or of questionable quality.

You bought a genuine Toyota/Scion/Subaru, not some off brand, right?

Kosei K4R are cheaper and clear the sprint. I don't have much time on the K4R's but I never had issues with their older wheels :thumbup:

Captain Snooze 05-29-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 966819)
Anything cheaper... I would consider suspect or of questionable quality.

I have 8 RPF1s. I was just after an 80 km/h rim that isn't a space saver. I can't use one of the RPF1s that are off the car as a spare as they aren't wearing street legal tyres.

CSG Mike 05-29-2013 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 967722)
I have 8 RPF1s. I was just after an 80 km/h rim that isn't a space saver.

Nothing that I'm aware of in 5x100. The 370z/G37 spare tire clears BBKs, but is 5x114.3 :(

Hanakuso 05-29-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 967730)
Nothing that I'm aware of in 5x100. The 370z/G37 spare tire clears BBKs, but is 5x114.3 :(

Just keep a 20mm or higher spacer in the trunk. I think without a spare tire the mat won't sit totally right.

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Originally Posted by mackdaddytran (Post 966783)
Wouldn't necessarily call RPF1's cheap

$850-1000 for a set of 4 wheels is cheap to me..

qoncept 05-29-2013 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 966819)
Anything cheaper... I would consider suspect or of questionable quality.

You bought a genuine Toyota/Scion/Subaru, not some off brand, right?

That's a ridiculous thing to say. There are a million wheels cheaper than RPF1s that are just fine, including most other Enkeis and what the overwhelming majority of Subarus roll on. Ever heard of Rota?

GTM_Challenge 05-29-2013 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by qoncept (Post 967801)
That's a ridiculous thing to say. There are a million wheels cheaper than RPF1s that are just fine, including most other Enkeis and what the overwhelming majority of Subarus roll on. Ever heard of Rota?

We say RPF1 because we KNOW they fit with the BBK he is running and we don't consider them expensive...especially when he's only looking to buy 1. Rota is considered an "off brand" by the way. While they might be sufficient wheels, we do not endorse or sell them ourselves.

qoncept 05-29-2013 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GTM_Challenge (Post 967805)
We say RPF1 because we KNOW they fit with the BBK he is running and we don't consider them expensive...especially when he's only looking to buy 1. Rota is considered an "off brand" by the way. While they might be sufficient wheels, we do not endorse or sell them ourselves.

Recommending the RPF1 is good. Saying anything cheaper is suspect is asinine.

CSG Mike 05-29-2013 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by qoncept (Post 967814)
Recommending the RPF1 is good. Saying anything cheaper is suspect is asinine.

I wouldn't ever recommend anyone buy a Rota for their car.

If you're turbocharging your car, are you gonna get the brand name or the ebay turbo?

Find me a single wheel that offers better value than a RPF1. That's why I say anything cheaper is suspect.

qoncept 05-29-2013 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 967818)
I wouldn't ever recommend anyone buy a Rota for their car.

If you're turbocharging your car, are you gonna get the brand name or the ebay turbo?

Find me a single wheel that offers better value than a RPF1. That's why I say anything cheaper is suspect.

Better value for what? Most people are getting wheels because of the way they look, and 1) I don't like the way they look on a BRZ and 2) everyone has them. So the value, if that's your goal, is terrible. Light and strong are great, but light enough and strong enough is.... enough, often at half the price.

If my wheels spun at 100krpm like a turbo shaft I would probably agree with your ebay comment, but you're comparing apples and oranges. ebay turbos are documented garbage. Anecdotal evidence says Rotas are as strong as the next wheel. What part about so many WRXs running on Rotas (and similar or even cheaper wheels) just fine makes you think they are of such questionable quality that they wouldn't work on a car that's 500lbs lighter?

FWIW, I have Enkeis.

Hanakuso 05-29-2013 05:32 PM

Wheel selection can get touchy but I gotta agree with Mike. On my personal car I wouldn't "upgrade" to anything less then RPF1s.

Captain Snooze 05-29-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanakuso (Post 967776)
Just keep a 20mm or higher spacer in the trunk. I think without a spare tire the mat won't sit totally right.

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 966378)
(Wheel spacers not allowed.)

In case people missed it I am looking for a spare. Not track wheels or daily driver wheels. A spare that won't see over 80km/h. I think Dave-ROR's suggestion wins.
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Hanakuso 05-29-2013 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 967856)
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So you're going to keep a full size spare tire that fits the Sprint kit or fix-o-flat?

Not sure why you're shopping when you got 8 RPF1s as is. Not legal but it's only temp

CSG Mike 05-29-2013 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qoncept (Post 967839)
Better value for what? Most people are getting wheels because of the way they look, and 1) I don't like the way they look on a BRZ and 2) everyone has them. So the value, if that's your goal, is terrible. Light and strong are great, but light enough and strong enough is.... enough, often at half the price.

If my wheels spun at 100krpm like a turbo shaft I would probably agree with your ebay comment, but you're comparing apples and oranges. ebay turbos are documented garbage. Anecdotal evidence says Rotas are as strong as the next wheel. What part about so many WRXs running on Rotas (and similar or even cheaper wheels) just fine makes you think they are of such questionable quality that they wouldn't work on a car that's 500lbs lighter?

FWIW, I have Enkeis.

Find me a single wheel that is similar weight or ligher than a RPF1 at half the price. With similar strength.


@OP: If you have extended studs, spacer + OG spare is the best option. Ebay spacers will do just fine in this case.

Captain Snooze 05-29-2013 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanakuso (Post 967862)
Not legal

This.

OrbitalEllipses 05-29-2013 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanakuso (Post 967776)
$850-1000 for a set of 4 wheels is cheap to me..

Sure is. $1700-3000 is my spending limit. At the upper end, they're forged for that kind of money or a total fucking waste.

Hanakuso 05-29-2013 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 967952)
Sure is. $1700-3000 is my spending limit. At the upper end, they're forged for that kind of money or a total fucking waste.

I would love to own a set of $3000 wheels but I'd cry myself to sleep if I damaged them.

I recently dropped a spray can on my RPF1 and chipped off some paint. After a minute of rage I can careless.

KKaWing 05-29-2013 06:57 PM

http://www.essexparts.com/essex-comp...-frs-gt86.html

^ They advertise the Enkei Fujin wheels as compatible. They have it in 17x7.5 ET40 5/100 size. ~$200 ea. CAD from an e-tailer here in Canuckistan.

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Name size offset
OEM Spare Tire (doughnut)
Enkei RPF1 17x8 45
Enkei RPF1 (very tight fit, but works) 17x9 35
Enkei Fujin 17x7.5 40
Kosei K4R 17x8 36
Mach V Motorsports "Awesome" wheel 17x9 42
Rays CE28N 18x7.5 47
Sparco (designed by OZ) Assetto Gara 17x7.5 48
Subaru OEM STI Wheels (2004) 17x7.5 53
Team Dynamic 1.2 17x7 38
Wedsport TC105n 17x9 35
Work Ultimates 18x8.5 47
Insert disclaimer that those wheels are not advertised as "race ready" like the RPF1's and the like. That and pull up internet meme's about rotas disintegrating etc... That said even Wilwood BBK had the disks seperate from the hub-plate-thing. Basically use caution.

Edit: Maybe take a look at Team Dynamics wheels from England-land. The price for them seem pretty alright and well... just take a look :p A certain hi-po Ford hatchback forum has an importer as a sponsor and they look alright. Also seem to recall a few pictures of them posted here as well. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=team+dynamic

CSG Mike 05-29-2013 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanakuso (Post 968048)
I would love to own a set of $3000 wheels but I'd cry myself to sleep if I damaged them.

I recently dropped a spray can on my RPF1 and chipped off some paint. After a minute of rage I can careless.

You'd have to see my BBS then... although they're in pretty good condition for the use they've seen. The two previous owners had then on (real) race cars...

OrbitalEllipses 05-29-2013 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanakuso (Post 968048)
I would love to own a set of $3000 wheels but I'd cry myself to sleep if I damaged them.

I recently dropped a spray can on my RPF1 and chipped off some paint. After a minute of rage I can careless.

Yup! They're not DD wheels for sure. I don't want to talk about my wheels. I prefer not to invoke any luck, one way or the other.

fatoni 05-29-2013 09:41 PM

i would say that the team dynamics are are likely stronger than the rpf1. i also think that the mach v awesome is a decent enough option and a much lighter weight. the kosei k4r is a beast of a rim for miatas. i would imagine its pretty amazing in the larger size too. rota isnt my cup of tea but i think that they put out a decent product for the price.

OrbitalEllipses 05-29-2013 10:00 PM

Re: Team Dynamics. They're heavier if I recall, in the neighborhood of 18 to 19 lbs for the Pro Race 1.2 17" sizing...because people broke them in non-race situations (pot holes kill wheels!) and they responded by making them even tougher.

Dave-ROR 05-29-2013 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 968575)
i would say that the team dynamics are are likely stronger than the rpf1. i also think that the mach v awesome is a decent enough option and a much lighter weight. the kosei k4r is a beast of a rim for miatas. i would imagine its pretty amazing in the larger size too. rota isnt my cup of tea but i think that they put out a decent product for the price.

This... I'd actually run rota's on my BRZ. I've run them on my other cars, still do on the ITR in fact. :shrug:

They are a bit too heavy in the larger sizes though, but for a spare.. who cares.. I don't know which might fit with the sprint kit though :)

JoeBoxer 05-29-2013 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 968707)
This... I'd actually run rota's on my BRZ. I've run them on my other cars, still do on the ITR in fact. :shrug:

They are a bit too heavy in the larger sizes though, but for a spare.. who cares.. I don't know which might fit with the sprint kit though :)

probably the Rota Titan, available in 17" and under 18 pounds. It's their TC105 replica...

Xauterus 05-30-2013 01:19 AM

Have you looked at a vw golf space saver in 18"?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VW-Golf-V...c4cdcb9&_uhb=1

I wonder whether this would fit on.

Captain Snooze 05-30-2013 03:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Xauterus (Post 969038)
Have you looked at a vw golf space saver in 18"?

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 966378)
but I don't want to have to resort to a space saver.


Xauterus 05-30-2013 03:43 AM

Sorry I was just thinking what else may fit. Can you get a 17x6 wheel? Do Enkei do a rally width wheel?

Paragon 05-30-2013 07:16 AM

Captain you are in luck I have a great condition volk ce28n in 17x8 that you can use as a spare if your interested. Cant beat that for quality

bakerr6 05-30-2013 08:42 AM

I'm running motegi traklites, but when I do upgrade my brakes, I will no longer be able to. I plan on going with mach v awesomes when that time comes

I do believe they are planning on doing another run of traklites and have talked about possibly running 18s through this batch (for brake clearance). I will have to call them again. I do believe theyw ill be pricier than the RPF1s though (I'm talking version 1, not the current versions available)

qoncept 05-30-2013 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 967898)
Find me a single wheel that is similar weight or ligher than a RPF1 at half the price. With similar strength.

I didn't say as light, I said light enough. And I already mentioned Rotas, but practically EVERY wheel people are going to put on a BRZ/FR-S is also in that weight range. All of which are also comparable in weight to the stock wheels.

Also, we're talking about a spare. Pop your trunk and tell me you can do worse than that.


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