Next car after Scion FRS
 

Well I think I have narrowed it down to a 2009 Porsche Cayman. The questions I had though on this type of car is am I going to go bankrupt trying to maintain a car like this? Anyone have some previous experience owning a Porsche or similar car and can provide me with some insight?

I have a Porsche 993.

You know the phrase "if you have to ask, you probably can't afford it"? That goes for maintenance/parts on a Porsche.

I vote for Scion FR-S :)

Or if you really want to spend more money: Toyota GT-86

Owning German cars out of warranty is not for the faint of heart.

Why are you needing to consider your "next car after FR-s" the car has only been out a year, did you total yours or something?

In my mind the only "next" car should be an FRs or Better yet a BRz...unless you didn't appreciate the car, in which case you should be asking this question of another audience.

What exactly are you looking for that this car didn't decide, You realize there is nothing in this thread to indicate what you would like discussed, as far as i can tell this thread should have been titled, "I leased a scion and now I think I want to own a used porsche...same thing right?"

Let me tell you about German cars...

Their parts are expensive and labor rate/book hour for independent shops are high too.

Like campy said... "If you have to ask, you probably can't afford it"

It's a PORSCHE... Lexus/Audi/Bmw/Benz/Infiniti are above Toyota. Porsche is above all I listed.

My experience with porsche (cayenne) is that its a fun to drive SUV that lacks the technological advances of its counterparts in lexus and and others. Not sure it's worth the price status aside.

OP I'm a little confused, are you asking about Cayman's or are you proposing a discussion point for members to talk about their next planned purchase after they are done with their FR-S? If it's the former, why ask about a Cayman on an FR-S forum? Check out:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/boxster-cayman-forum/
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/boxster-cayman-16/
http://forums.rennlist.com/

A few members here have/had P cars and hopefully will chime in.

Pops owned a 911, he was worried about IMS failure (which I believe afflicts Cayman/Boxster as well?) but looking at the numbers - it isn't the nearly as fateful as folks make it out to be. He put on 40k+ miles over a few years averaging about $1,2k per year in costs* before selling it with around 120k miles in perfect working condition for a new Corvette Grand Sport.

*lube changes, brakes, small mods here and there, minor deferred maintenance, etc.

Always remember [i.e. don't be intentionally ignorant], even if a car costs $25k now, that doesn't change the fact that maintenance is still that of a $60k+ car. Price it out accordingly and see if your budget fits, should take all of 40 minutes to do. :search: :search: :search: :D

We're in the same boat, I'm in love with the new Cayman body style and am shooting for a factory pick up in 4-5 years time. :party0030:

Thanks for the information those of you that posted. I am in fact patrolling those forums as well listed above by you guys. This question was for people who have owned this car and their experience with maintenance issues and costs. I don't believe the "if you have to ask, you can't afford it". I make enough money to purchase it brand new off the lot, that doesn't mean I am going to behave stupidly with my money and dive head long into a car without gathering first hand accounts as to maintenance and upkeep costs.

I am sorry if this offended anyone but this forum is a gathering place of owners of the twins. I own a twin and I am doing research for future car purchases and I value the opinions and information of fellow owners, I did not say I was going to buy this car tomorrow or two years from now, so please dont infer. I gave you enough information in the question to get the answer I wanted, maintenance costs on the Cayman.

For the others who say keep the BRZ/FRS forever I get it, it is a good car, I bought one! But, there are better cars out there, for anyone who thinks a BRZ/FRS is better then a well designed Porsche... you haven't driven one. Thanks again to everyone who provided me with real information.

Sorry if what I said came off as agressive, I didn't mean it to. I wasn't sure if you actually had much thought put into this, or you're just a high schooler who saw an old Porsche for sale on craigslist for $2000.

Np. Understandable. Hard to determine tone through text. Yeah I am doing preliminary research right now. I like to gather as much first hand information as I can.

The cayman is a wonderful choice - as I've stated in a different thread, to me, it feels very much like what the BRZ/FRS would be if Subaru/Toyota had a target price of $60-70k. I haven't owned mine long enough to tell on the maintenance, but I can say that it's an excellent car.

That having been said, you have a car that's a year old (or less) - I would recommend keeping it for a while before thinking about upgrading.

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Well I know a little on prices; my dad owns a Porsche 911 turbo!
•He took it to a track day the other month and due to its really low profile tires (that got torn up) they had to be replaced the next day... $400-800 each a tire (dependent on quality)

That's it so far but I mean, if something goes wrong and you want new parts you want it to be Porsche not some no name brand replacement.
He's getting the new 2014 gt3 soon and one of the options is Porsche disc brakes ($40,000)

Easiest way to look at it in comparison:
•Toyota/scion/brz; top of the line TRD/STI big brakes; $10,000
•Porsche high spec big brakes; $40,000

Sorry, but you're asking for spreadsheet actuarial information about the Cayman in the wrong place.

The FR-S is the first car that has generated any interest for me, personally, over the last 15 years.
So much so that I've been driving an f'n van for longer than that.
ALL the production offerings up to now have left me ultimately frostbitten.

Didn't want to spend S2000 - Boxter prices for a worthwhile car. Glad I waited.

I specifically bought the FR-S over Cayman S so I could beat the fucking piss out of it and not feel bad!

Wouldn't you be pissed of your Cayman S bumper wound up like this from AutoX?

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...0&d=1368321916


Well I don't give a FUCK because it's a $25k Scion. If you can't enjoy DRIVING it what's the point of owning a sports car?

I'd like something a little more comfortable, a GTI would be a good pick. But there's still the charm of having RWD, if they can make a turbocharged subaru/lexus hybrid that would be nuts. Also make it a turbodiesel and a hybrid.

I will patiently wait for the BMW/TOYOTA collaboration.

what he said

I agree. This is a savage car built in the land of the rising sun, it was made for throwing into gutters and giving credit due to the takumi tax.

Cayman owners take better precaution of their bumpers, I'd say. I've seen lots of plasti-dipped and car bra's on porsche bumpers on road trips

$400-800 a tire? Good lord - what kind of tires is he running? A full set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports for my Cayman runs $970 ($273 ea. for the rears, and 211 ea. for the fronts). Also, low profile isn't what determines how fast a tire wears - that's more dependent on tire compound and how it is driven.

As for $40k for brakes? The PCCB brake option on a GT3 is just under $10k. The brakes on my Cayman would be around $700-$800 for the fronts only (at the dealer) - I don't know what the rears would cost, but I would assume less than that (and that's for pads and rotors, but they aren't PCCB). I think you're exaggerating a bit when it comes to costs here.

I once replaced the water pump on a 944. It took three days.

My next car would most possibly be the new Supra or a R35 GTR, if i still want a sports car.

Or i maybe become more practical as my daughter grows up and get a BMW x6 or Audi Q7.

I've always found that statement to be whole heartedly asinine and completely stupid. A rich person with common sense will ask, anyone who doesn't ask is stupid.

1965 Stingray Corvette, one day.

Do you swap out cars every two years? What the Hoo?

My next car hasn't hit the design department yet.
Last three cars: 1 - 7 years. 2 - 11 years. 3 - 18 years.

Hmm. Maybe the next one is a mobility scooter...

This made me chuckle. I would just about bet even money you don't know who the asinine and completely stupid person was that originated that statement. When you have time Google J.P. Morgan.
:burnrubber:

It makes me think of words like Knickerbocker.

Agree,
Zero fucks.
Bought it to drive it.

I would probably drive a Porsche the same way though so who knows.

early 2000's M5 with the v10. Next car is go big or go home

V8. V10 is 06-10

This is a cool thread But getting on the topic i wanna go with either an Evo or WRX Sti. something another step up. Might be trading the wife's 2011 Tc for an Sti within the next year, so by the time i am ready for an upgrade, I can say something like the MkV Supra?

Concept WRX next for me
 

I waited for this FR-S since Tokyo 2009, hell I even bought it on 8-6-2013 and I will wait for this next WRX. The only factor that might sway me would be a new Supra.

http://media.caranddriver.com/images...s-1280x782.jpg

:laughabove: So you quote someone who's been dead for 100 years in an attempt to look cool? Give it a rest, even he asked. Don't bet money you don't have.

Ha; if I ever get bored of my FR-S, next up in line is a Harley Fat Boy.

Sorry but I wasn't the one who quoted him. :)

Yet you're still the troll in this conversation. Moving on.

+100. If the next Supra arises it will be king as long as they utilize the styling from gt86 and past supras ill preorder second I can.

Definitely on my list also along with some new VW/Audi products and the new BMW 2 series coupe. I wasn't a huge fan of the new body style 328 I drove though. The new A3 2.0T with Quattro is high on my list.

Damn I like this Q3 also, I don't see many Audi's around my area and I like having stuff that's different. I hope they drive as good as they look and being the entry level models aren't too pricey.

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