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foxhu 05-11-2013 03:55 AM

trade in
 
anyone thinking to trade in the car? because I am planning to. this car has too much big issues. It's a fun car but hard to maintain it, everyday theres a problem coming out, I worry one day it'll be my car and it'll be the time when I need the car the most!:bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow:

PT-BRZ 05-11-2013 04:36 AM

What kind of issues are you having?

Enraged21 05-11-2013 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by foxhu (Post 926550)
anyone thinking to trade in the car? because I am planning to. this car has too much big issues. It's a fun car but hard to maintain it, everyday theres a problem coming out, I worry one day it'll be my car and it'll be the time when I need the car the most!:bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow:

that's what we get for buying a brand new model car. We're guinea pigs or test rats to see how the car will hold up/what issues will come up. They'll correct it all in the future models and probably come out with a TSB for our cars as well.

I see no point in trading it in.

The way I see it, if one thing fails, it's an opportunity to upgrade it.

Burrcold 05-11-2013 07:58 AM

I've had no issues that would make me think of trading it in. I'd like to hear this laundry list.

Enraged21 05-11-2013 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold (Post 926689)
I've had no issues that would make me think of trading it in. I'd like to hear this laundry list.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15577

Burrcold 05-11-2013 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Enraged21 (Post 926699)

Okay?? I asked what issues HE was having.

Enraged21 05-11-2013 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold (Post 926704)
Okay?? I asked what issues HE was having.

I take it he's not having any. Just scared that he'll get one of the issues himself

Burrcold 05-11-2013 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Enraged21 (Post 926717)
I take it he's not having any. Just scared that he'll get one of the issues himself

In that case, there are TONS of members who have no issues, like myself. So why would you trade in a car because you anticipate problems? That's just stupidity. I can understand if you have had multiple issues that have kept your car at the dealer longer than you've owned it, but that is simply not the case with 99% of owners.

thill 05-11-2013 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold (Post 926736)
In that case, there are TONS of members who have no issues, like myself. So why would you trade in a car because you anticipate problems? That's just stupidity. I can understand if you have had multiple issues that have kept your car at the dealer longer than you've owned it, but that is simply not the case with 99% of owners.

Yeah, I agree with you. You would lose thousands of dollars on a trade-in, seems like a very hasty decision. Every car has issues.

Enraged21 05-11-2013 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold (Post 926736)
In that case, there are TONS of members who have no issues, like myself. So why would you trade in a car because you anticipate problems? That's just stupidity. I can understand if you have had multiple issues that have kept your car at the dealer longer than you've owned it, but that is simply not the case with 99% of owners.

I completely agree with you 100%

Justin.b 05-11-2013 09:13 AM

If you're that worried about issues you may have with a car, you should just be a pedestrian. Barefoot, of course, because I've heard that people have had issues with shoes.

-Justin

Skurj 05-11-2013 09:39 AM

I am worried next time I drive to work I might be in a fatal accident...

I am going to stay home and apply for one of those work from home google jobs that pays $7000 a month. That and dial a bottle !! yay!

Burrcold 05-11-2013 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Skurj (Post 926774)
I am worried next time I drive to work I might be in a fatal accident...

I am going to stay home and apply for one of those work from home google jobs that pays $7000 a month. That and dial a bottle !! yay!

If I could, I would.

whaap 05-11-2013 10:22 AM

I think the build date on our cars has a lot to do with the "issues" encountered. I'm sure as problems became known corrective measures were taken to eliminate or minimize the problems. I know my FR-S was built in August 2012 and the only issue I've had was the rattle from the package shelf area.

Khazzy 05-11-2013 10:29 AM

I do not even have that rattle. I have had no issues at all. I may get a little chirping (I think anyways, I have not been able to tell really) but if that, the only issue I can come around to find. 2nd Gear is a little rough going into when you first start driving for the day or after long sits but that is nothing major. If you are anticipating issues that other people had making you want to trade it in, then that is a mistake. If you are trading it in because you are unhappy with the car. Then by all means trade it in. There are people that did not like this car after driving it x amount of miles.

Mango22 05-11-2013 11:01 AM

When I went in for my first oil change the service manager said my car has 63 TSBs... I laughed and said don't implement any of them since my car seems to be working fine. Within the 3 year warranty I plan have them done, which "should" give Subaru time to work on fine tuning the TSBs so they work the first time they are implemented on my car. You can't live in fear, you need to enjoy the ride...unless your car isn't drivable. Then trade it in.


Update: my bro reminded me it was 36 not 63 so I'm the stupid dyslexic. Nothing against dyslexics, I'm the stupid one.

Burrcold 05-11-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mango22 (Post 926889)
When I went in for my first oil change the service manager said my car has 63 TSBs... I laughed and said don't implement any of them since my car seems to be working fine. Within the 3 year warranty I plan have them done, which "should" give Subaru time to work on fine tuning the TSBs so they work the first time they are implemented on my car. You can't live in fear, you need to enjoy the ride...unless your car isn't drivable. Then trade it in.

63 TSB's? I doubt it. Even if there were that many, it doesn't mean they all apply to your car. Your service manager sounds as stupid as many of the sales staff do.

DeepHunta 05-11-2013 11:34 AM

that is a big YES! I will be trading this car in..............when the BRZ STI is released of course.

And yeah, what issues are you having? just like what @Enraged21 says, if there is an issue then it is an opportunity to upgrade it.

There was condensation issues with tail lights so I bought the spyder LED smoked tail lights. The chirping noise gets annoying at times but it gives the car character. All of the issues does not remove the overall function of the car which is balance chassis and fun in the bends.

Just wait for the STI version and hang on to this one for now is my suggestion but your call.

kludger 05-11-2013 01:37 PM

There's many of us happy silent owners without any major issues so you don't hear about it as much as you do the ones with problems (only GPS antenna TSB here), but if you're that worried about stuff then go ahead and trade it in, but every car is built out of thousands of parts that can have problems and no matter what you get, you can have the odds go against you and run into problems.

My suggestion is buy and drive the car you love and quit worrying about things that are out of your control.

DragynVyrus 05-11-2013 02:16 PM

Yea there really aren't any actual issues with these. And like said before you're only hearing about the ones that had issues. But there guys like myself that haven't had any issues, not to mention all of the people that aren't on the forum.

Maybe all of us that don't have any problems should start bitching that we don't have anything wrong.

jmaryt 05-11-2013 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Enraged21 (Post 926687)
that's what we get for buying a brand new model car. We're guinea pigs or test rats to see how the car will hold up/what issues will come up. They'll correct it all in the future models and probably come out with a TSB for our cars as well.

I see no point in trading it in.

The way I see it, if one thing fails, it's an opportunity to upgrade it.

this is all well and good,however,you DON'T want "issues" showing up
AFTER the warranty is up gets expensive real fast! we may skate thru on the driveline,because we got 5 years.,or maybe 3 if you are a mileage hog...just sayin'

#87 05-11-2013 07:50 PM

I know I have this big problem, I have to get gas every day because I can't stay off the redline. Thinking to trade in for a Yaris.

jmaryt 05-11-2013 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enraged21 (Post 926687)
that's what we get for buying a brand new model car. We're guinea pigs or test rats to see how the car will hold up/what issues will come up. They'll correct it all in the future models and probably come out with a TSB for our cars as well.

I see no point in trading it in.

The way I see it, if one thing fails, it's an opportunity to upgrade it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burrcold (Post 926933)
63 TSB's? I doubt it. Even if there were that many, it doesn't mean they all apply to your car. Your service manager sounds as stupid as many of the sales staff do.

these guys play "cute" (service managers) and pretend they don't know of any issues with the car!..trust me,they are NOT going to admit to anything,if they don't have to.

#87 05-11-2013 07:55 PM

Service manager told my friend they need a Automatic transmission fluid change on their Civic Si (which is only manufactured in manual)

Screw dealers.

I'm driving around a year with condensation in my lights because I don't trust them lol

jflogerzi 05-11-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by foxhu (Post 926550)
anyone thinking to trade in the car? because I am planning to. this car has too much big issues. It's a fun car but hard to maintain it, everyday theres a problem coming out, I worry one day it'll be my car and it'll be the time when I need the car the most!:bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow:

WTF. 14,1XX miles later not a single serious issue.

jmaryt 05-11-2013 08:00 PM

put racing wheels on the yaris,and "pretend!" ehe! he! he!
i had one! little bugger will run 300,000 miles and last 20 years!
i don't know how the japanese do it!..ain't no f**Kin' huge mystery!
we just keep buildin' "crap".

The359 05-11-2013 08:00 PM

Even with those that have had issues, I dont recall any that left someone stranded. The car isnt going to let you down.

jmaryt 05-11-2013 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #87 (Post 927638)
Service manager told my friend they need a Automatic transmission fluid change on their Civic Si (which is only manufactured in manual)

Screw dealers.

I'm driving around a year with condensation in my lights because I don't trust them lol

political hack! has excellent "oral" skills!

Enraged21 05-12-2013 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jmaryt (Post 927621)
this is all well and good,however,you DON'T want "issues" showing up
AFTER the warranty is up gets expensive real fast! we may skate thru on the driveline,because we got 5 years.,or maybe 3 if you are a mileage hog...just sayin'

well yeah I would obviously milk the warranty til it ends. But after that, things do get pricey pretty fast. You can opt for extended warranty if you'd like. Or just take that part and upgrade it like I.

Mango22 05-12-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold (Post 926933)
63 TSB's? I doubt it. Even if there were that many, it doesn't mean they all apply to your car. Your service manager sounds as stupid as many of the sales staff do.

Yeah, I'm the stupid one...my brother reminded me it was 36 not 63. Guess I'm dyslexic. All I clearly remember is it was a lot of TSBs.

smartypants 05-12-2013 10:36 AM

yes...tons of issues with this car, sell it to me for cheap? :D

jskurucz 05-12-2013 10:57 AM

I had my car since last June with 20 miles on it. Only problem I had was a little tail light condensation, but was replaced the next day.

Do you live in a bubble too?

foxhu 05-12-2013 03:48 PM

I know we are just beta testing the car, but imagine this, warranty expires in 3 year(most people don't buy extra warranty) so if your car runs fine the first 3 year or 36000 miles. and then on the 36001 miles everything fails and may people have it before the warranty expire, but not your, then you either wait for recalls(if theres one) or pay it out of your pocket(assuming it's CEL that you'll need to replace the engine). And no I don't have any big issue like many people say, but what if it does happen. beside I only like this car because it's SUBARU the downside is that it built with TOYOTA.... as of now theres a new problem with the DI. imagine how much it would cost you after the warranty??

Burrcold 05-12-2013 04:23 PM

The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!

sho220 05-12-2013 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by foxhu (Post 929095)
I know we are just beta testing the car, but imagine this, warranty expires in 3 year(most people don't buy extra warranty) so if your car runs fine the first 3 year or 36000 miles. and then on the 36001 miles everything fails and may people have it before the warranty expire, but not your, then you either wait for recalls(if theres one) or pay it out of your pocket(assuming it's CEL that you'll need to replace the engine). And no I don't have any big issue like many people say, but what if it does happen. beside I only like this car because it's SUBARU the downside is that it built with TOYOTA.... as of now theres a new problem with the DI. imagine how much it would cost you after the warranty??

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Ravenft86 05-12-2013 05:10 PM

then why did you buy the car in the first place or thought about it. this can also happen to any other car brand and car model..

PT-BRZ 05-12-2013 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foxhu (Post 929095)
I know we are just beta testing the car, but imagine this, warranty expires in 3 year(most people don't buy extra warranty) so if your car runs fine the first 3 year or 36000 miles. and then on the 36001 miles everything fails and may people have it before the warranty expire, but not your, then you either wait for recalls(if theres one) or pay it out of your pocket(assuming it's CEL that you'll need to replace the engine). And no I don't have any big issue like many people say, but what if it does happen. beside I only like this car because it's SUBARU the downside is that it built with TOYOTA.... as of now theres a new problem with the DI. imagine how much it would cost you after the warranty??

Powertrain warranty is 5 years, 60k miles. Just enjoy the car and don't worry about it so much.

ashtray 05-12-2013 06:27 PM

I might trade mine in/sell depending if they come out with an STi version or depending how the new WRX is. Otherwise my plan is to keep it for 12 years, then give it to my son as his first car. I'm averaging 4k/yr mileage (I drive 2 cars), so after 12 years, the car will be super low mileage still. But I'm also power hungry - and a 300hp car that handled as nicely, looked as good, and got same fuel economy might win me over.

I originally planned to sell my '03 WRX instead and upgrade that to the next 300hp WRX, but I need a mall car/loaner/etc I can park and not worry about.

Btw - 11 1/2 months on my BRZ, no trips to dealer. Then again, 3,600 miles, so it's still young. Had crickets but they seem to have gone away? Tail lights - haven't noticed. No rattles or other issues and even the GPS worked last time I tried it.

Actually had a strange issue - I needed a pair of pliers to pull out an Apple brand USB cable from the port in the car! Just super tight and wouldn't budge otherwise. Crazy!

CBR600RR 05-12-2013 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foxhu (Post 929095)
I know we are just beta testing the car, but imagine this, warranty expires in 3 year(most people don't buy extra warranty) so if your car runs fine the first 3 year or 36000 miles. and then on the 36001 miles everything fails and may people have it before the warranty expire, but not your, then you either wait for recalls(if theres one) or pay it out of your pocket(assuming it's CEL that you'll need to replace the engine). And no I don't have any big issue like many people say, but what if it does happen. beside I only like this car because it's SUBARU the downside is that it built with TOYOTA.... as of now theres a new problem with the DI. imagine how much it would cost you after the warranty??


welcome to vehicle ownership... next!

GT86meMR2 05-12-2013 07:12 PM

You're joking, right?


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