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Raceseng 04-26-2013 11:41 AM

Raceseng | Billet Aluminum Caster Camber Plates
 
Just wanted to give you guys a heads up as to what is going on inside Raceseng. We are developing a true independent caster and camber adjustment plate. These plates will mount under the strut tower, have plenty of caster/camber adjustment and minimum stack height! The key to our design is to make the caster and camber adjustment independent of each other. Below are some shots of our product design, development and prototyping in process!

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=4542

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=4543

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=4544

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=4545

naikaidriver 04-26-2013 11:44 AM

:confused0068:
Scott

EarlQHan 04-26-2013 11:46 AM

Very nice, it's about time these things hit the market. What dampers do you planning on making them compatible for?

naikaidriver 04-26-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EarlQHan (Post 892917)
Very nice, it's about time these things hit the market. What dampers do you planning on making them compatible for?

Excellent question!

If these will be compatible with the Koni's, you will most certainly have at least one customer!

Scott

SloS14 04-26-2013 12:18 PM

beautiful.

2point0 04-26-2013 03:02 PM

Damn that's purdy! Love the hardware as well.

How do these adjust caster? I can't tell just from the mounting holes, but is it just that the camber slot is off-axis so you get more caster at the same time, or is there a way to turn it that I'm not seeing?

EarlQHan 04-26-2013 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2point0 (Post 893453)
Damn that's purdy! Love the hardware as well.

How do these adjust caster? I can't tell just from the mounting holes, but is it just that the camber slot is off-axis so you get more caster at the same time, or is there a way to turn it that I'm not seeing?

The camber plate works like normal, but if you see where it mounts to the strut tower it's slotted vertically to adjust caster independently.

Vten 04-26-2013 03:16 PM

I just bought a set of "temporary coilover" , ideally I want to go with KW v3, and hopefully this will complete the set !

Keep us updated !

2point0 04-26-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EarlQHan (Post 893464)
The camber plate works like normal, but if you see where it mounts to the strut tower it's slotted vertically to adjust caster independently.

Duh! Totally missed that. Thanks.

THEmailman 04-26-2013 03:26 PM

Seconded. What would these work on?

simpleisbest 04-26-2013 07:54 PM

Will ride height be effected?

eckoflyte 04-26-2013 08:30 PM

If compatible with ohlins I'd be in. What's the projected pricing on these?

eckoflyte 04-26-2013 08:32 PM

What sort of ball bearing is being used?

johnb831 04-26-2013 08:36 PM

Very Nice!!!

Captain Snooze 04-26-2013 08:59 PM

I am a huge proponent of function>form but occasionally an item will appear that is both functional and aesthetically pleasing. I am suggesting these are one such item.

kask2_6.0 04-26-2013 09:21 PM

Very nice!

Supermassive 04-27-2013 03:55 AM

Damn, I am almost inclined to buy these to replace my Vorshlags, just because of how good they look. Now if you could anodize them orange I think I would be completely sold!

Shit Luck 04-27-2013 03:01 PM

These are awesome...
integrated tower brace coming?????

Simmons 04-27-2013 08:45 PM

They are even better looking in person.

I will be testing them at the AutoX soon.


Simmons

JDKane527 04-27-2013 09:04 PM

Do these raise the height when installed, or do they allow more shock travel? Parts look good!

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

xwd 04-28-2013 07:19 PM

Raceseng can answer definitely but the way the upper portion seems to fit within the opening of the strut tower would mean the perch wouldn't sit quite as low as a perch which fits completely flat under the shock tower.

DrSleepy 04-29-2013 01:26 AM

I rarely see something that makes me scream "I need this" like these do.

Raceseng 04-29-2013 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EarlQHan (Post 892917)
Very nice, it's about time these things hit the market. What dampers do you planning on making them compatible for?

We plan on making them work with all the dampers on the market. We can custom machine the upper and lower spherical bearing bushing to fit the strut shaft. We plan on making a simple form that the customer can fill out that will detail the dimensions of their strut shaft and spring. There will be some modularity between the strut shafts but its going to take us some time to cover all the coil overs on the market.

Raceseng 04-29-2013 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naikaidriver (Post 892971)
Excellent question!

If these will be compatible with the Koni's, you will most certainly have at least one customer!

Scott

We can make that happen! Send me an email - jarrett@raceseng.com

Raceseng 04-29-2013 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simpleisbest (Post 894077)
Will ride height be effected?

These have less stack height then the top plates that come on coil overs. Since the plate extends up into the strut tower, I was able to push the bearing housing further up into the caster/camber plate.

Raceseng 04-29-2013 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by eckoflyte (Post 894140)
What sort of ball bearing is being used?

Glad you asked, the upper is a spherical bearing with a stainless steel race/ball and a teflon liner. There are a large number of private labeled spherical bearings carried by every "bearing manufacturer" under the sun. Sifting through the mess of private labeled bearings is the difficult part.

The spring perch bearing is a double row angular contact bearing. This is a more expensive bearing but truly intended for the axial/thrust load that it will see.

Raceseng 04-29-2013 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 894192)
I am a huge proponent of function>form but occasionally an item will appear that is both functional and aesthetically pleasing. I am suggesting these are one such item.

Hearing something like this makes me proud because we pour hours upon hours into truly designing our products. All things begin and end with design at Raceseng, it is one of our core foundations.

Raceseng 04-29-2013 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supermassive (Post 894864)
Damn, I am almost inclined to buy these to replace my Vorshlags, just because of how good they look. Now if you could anodize them orange I think I would be completely sold!

The caster/camber plate will be black anodized and the bearing housing and spring perch will be anodized orange.

Raceseng 04-29-2013 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwx (Post 897436)
Raceseng can answer definitely but the way the upper portion seems to fit within the opening of the strut tower would mean the perch wouldn't sit quite as low as a perch which fits completely flat under the shock tower.

You are dead on! When I started designing the caster/camber plates, I wanted to minimize the stack height without sacrificing travel. This was the best solution I found which offers the lowest stack height with independent caster and camber travel.

Raceseng 04-29-2013 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shit Luck (Post 895392)
These are awesome...
integrated tower brace coming?????

Absolutely, we are working on several strut tower solutions now with the same design approach taken on the caster/camber plates.

Shit Luck 04-29-2013 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raceseng (Post 899949)
Absolutely, we are working on several strut tower solutions now with the same design approach taken on the caster/camber plates.

I really need to stop up and see you guys....

Raceseng 04-29-2013 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shit Luck (Post 899976)
I really need to stop up and see you guys....

Where are you located?

Shit Luck 04-29-2013 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raceseng (Post 899984)
Where are you located?

York, Pa.

Black Tire 04-30-2013 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raceseng (Post 892910)
Just wanted to give you guys a heads up as to what is going on inside Raceseng. We are developing a true independent caster and camber adjustment plate. These plates will mount under the strut tower, have plenty of caster/camber adjustment and minimum stack height! The key to our design is to make the caster and camber adjustment independent of each other. Below are some shots of our product design, development and prototyping in process!

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=4545

Wow! Looks great. I love the fact that it can be adapted to different shocks and springs. I look forward to see what you come up with for a strut brace.

Newby/uninformed question: A lot of metal seems to have been removed to allow a wide range of adjustments. Is there enough metal left to prevent deflection/fatigue under track and/or street pothole conditions?

Raceseng 05-01-2013 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Tire (Post 902192)
Wow! Looks great. I love the fact that it can be adapted to different shocks and springs. I look forward to see what you come up with for a strut brace.

Newby/uninformed question: A lot of metal seems to have been removed to allow a wide range of adjustments. Is there enough metal left to prevent deflection/fatigue under track and/or street pothole conditions?

No worries, I can understand your concern. To put things in perspective for you, the top plate on my Cusco coil overs is 1/4" aluminum plate. The thickness of the caster/camber plate where the camber slot is cut out is over 5/8" thick. We have a prototype sets machined and being tested now. Simmons is testing a set with KW V3 coil overs on his autocross car.

s2d4 05-01-2013 10:42 AM

Please pardon my ignorance, will this be fronts only?

Raceseng 05-01-2013 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2d4 (Post 903633)
Please pardon my ignorance, will this be fronts only?

It's cool... There is no need to make an adjustable top plate for the rear because the coil over/strut is bolted to the lower control arm which adjusts rear camber.

So, yes this will be fronts only. Thanks!

NYC BRZ 05-01-2013 03:08 PM

Any ideas on preliminary pricing? With the SCCA proposing an allowance of camber plates in its new Street class next year I am 100% interested. I'm a northeast guy as well so I'll probably just head to a NNJR autocross and check out Simmons car.

OrbitalEllipses 05-01-2013 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYC BRZ (Post 904318)
Any ideas on preliminary pricing?

This. What price range are you targeting for these?

Esoteric 05-02-2013 07:01 PM

Jarret and the crew are exceptional nice people and tremendously talented at making sexy parts that will work.

We are excited that they are local to us, and will be looking forward to rounding out our product line, with those that they will be offering as well.
Keep an eye our for their parts!


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