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Gimagination 04-10-2013 07:02 PM

Simple Shut Window Feature Not Working on Driver's Side
 
Do you know how there is this window feature (http://www.scion.com/cars/FR-S/featu...window_feature) that lowers the window just a bit to allow the air to escape as you close the door so it's easier for you to close? Well, mine isn't working. It makes me mad because I'm a girl and I close the door very gently and it never closes because the air is trapped.

The passenger side does work, but not the driver's. I already looked it up in here and in the manual but the only quick fix I found was to reset the automatic up/down feature (http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19731). I reset it but since it's not the same issue it didn't fix it.
I called the dealership and since it never worked since the day I bought it (2 weeks ago) they said it might have been that no one ever programmed it.

Has anyone had the same issue? I'm bringing it to the dealership Friday and I'm hoping I can get it fixed on my own before then because whatever they do I don't want them to open my door panel :(

Mr.Jay 04-10-2013 07:16 PM

My bad just read the rest of your post. I do remember others having the same issue and the reset fixing it for them tho.

if not I'm sure the ft86 collective here will think of something.

btw I'm a guy and I shut my door very light too but its cause I don't want to harm my precious

have you tried the window reset yet?

Put car to on, engine off. Push and hold button down until window rolls down and you hear a click. Then hold window button up until it rolls up and you hear a click

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=window+reset

strat61caster 04-10-2013 08:21 PM

BTW it has nothing to do with the air pressures (50 plus years of cars with wind up windows having zero problems) it has to do with the frameless windows fitting into the seals the car was designed with, otherwise the windows will push and pull the seals decreasing their life.

If the window reset mentioned above doesn't work then you'll have to talk to the dealer and have it covered under warranty.

Gimagination 04-10-2013 10:11 PM

Strat61 that makes sense. I thought it was because of the air trapped. Thanks for the info!
Mr. Jay I did try that and it didn't work :(

Ethereal 04-10-2013 10:16 PM

Noticed this today at the dealership, when i opened the driver side door, the window came down a bit, when i closed the door it went back up, all on its own.

Assuming your window still moves up and down manually with the power button?

Gimagination 04-10-2013 10:18 PM

Yes it does, absolutely nothing wrong with the window besides when I open the door.

Ethereal 04-10-2013 10:20 PM

Put car to on, engine off. Push and hold button down until window rolls down and you hear a click. Then hold window button up until it rolls up and you hear a click.

Gimagination 04-10-2013 10:21 PM

Did that more than ten times at different times of the day and still didn't fix the issue :(

Ethereal 04-10-2013 10:27 PM

That sucks, sounds like a dealer appointment is in order if you really like that feature. Crossing my fingers for you if you go that route that they dont more harm than good like take off the panel and break clips or something

Gimagination 04-10-2013 10:29 PM

Yeah me too, she's my baby!!! Thanks for replying and trying to help! I appreciate it :-)

Ethereal 04-10-2013 10:43 PM

Youre welcome :) One last thing, are you trying the reset with the door open or closed? I think it has to be closed to work.

BRZnut 04-11-2013 12:06 AM

The only people that post problems with this feature were those who had snow and ice on the windows this past winter. But seeing you're from Florida rules that out!

Gimagination 04-12-2013 12:09 PM

I did both, door closed and door open. And yeah I noticed some relationship between window not working and icy places.

Getting out from the dealership now. They had to take the door apart, it seems like there was a disconnected wire inside. At least it's now fixed :-)

strat61caster 04-12-2013 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethereal (Post 856441)
That sucks, sounds like a dealer appointment is in order if you really like that feature.

It's not a "feature" you can like or dislike, it's the design of the car and not fixing it will result in prematurely worn window seals that will probably leak like a sieve.

Obja 04-12-2013 02:16 PM

Had the same problem, the dealer was able to fix it in a matter of minutes.

Splat 04-12-2013 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRZnut (Post 856645)
The only people that post problems with this feature were those who had snow and ice on the windows this past winter. But seeing you're from Florida rules that out!

that was a very keen observation! Florida.. good catch :respekt:

Sportsguy83 04-12-2013 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gimagination (Post 856442)
Yeah me too, she's my baby!!! Thanks for replying and trying to help! I appreciate it :-)

While I installed my turbo kit, I disconnected/connected the battery several times.

One of the times, the window did not wanted to go down, it was weird. I disconnected/reconnected battery and it works.

Try disconnect, wait a few minutes and reconnect.

LeeMaster 04-12-2013 03:44 PM

I had a buddy of mine who drives a BMW which does the same thing as our car. He shattered his glass one day because he turned off his battery, opened his door to grab something and slammed the door. Probably not going to happen to this car, but just a food for thought for some of you who think that it's not a big deal.

Glad you got her fixed OP.

Ethereal 04-12-2013 06:17 PM

dealer said it was to relieve pressure since its a small cabin you wont have to slam the door to close, so i would hope its an option to turn off or on somehow?

in fact theres no need to debate it, its on scions website as a feature: "simple shut windows" "Improves ease of closing door by allowing air to be released from the vehicle interior"
http://www.scion.com/cars/FR-S/features/#

so silly if you cant choose to disable it though...

blakeaus 05-08-2013 08:18 AM

Hey Everyone,
Quick Test to do in this situation, turn your interior light to Door, Open the affected door and if it does not drop slightly check if your interior light is on..
You may have poor earthing contact in the door switch and resulting in the window not being told to lower slightly..
If you wiggle the switch slightly up and down it may receive contact and work. Just tighten the bolt and the fault should disappear.
Good Luck!

Clembo 05-08-2013 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethereal (Post 861441)
dealer said it was to relieve pressure since its a small cabin you wont have to slam the door to close, so i would hope its an option to turn off or on somehow?

in fact theres no need to debate it, its on scions website as a feature: "simple shut windows" "Improves ease of closing door by allowing air to be released from the vehicle interior"
http://www.scion.com/cars/FR-S/features/#

so silly if you cant choose to disable it though...

I think this is just manufacturer 'spin' on the subject. I think Strat is right, it's to allow the windows to seal properly and fit in under the external trim. I have the same set-up on my Mustang and with the battery off, I can't open the doors without damage to the seals or the glass. Scion likely feels that the truth might turn buyers off if they think window seals could be a problem. Sounds a whole lot better to say it just helps relieve cabin pressure - makes the car sound 'tight' and well-made.

If you want to see how they will work if disabled, just pull the negative battery cable. Open the door (if you can) and don't be surprised when the glass hangs up on the external plastic trim surround. And consider yourself lucky if you don't damage something in the process.

strat61caster 05-08-2013 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clembo (Post 918940)
I think this is just manufacturer 'spin' on the subject.

It's also the only Scion with this "feature".

50+ years of cars without the "feature" working fine and now this ONLY shows up on cars with frameless windows? It has nothing to do with reducing the pressure, it has everything to do with the glass fitting into the window seal.


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