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jkr 04-09-2013 08:07 PM

GReddy/AFE intake
 
does anyone who installed one know how to remove the OEM air scoop. The instructions were a little vague...

switchlanez 04-09-2013 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jkr (Post 853548)
does anyone who installed one know how to remove the OEM air scoop. The instructions were a little vague...

Remove the driver sidemarker (there's one black clip inside directly above where the sidemarker was). Remove that clip and you should have access to pry the rest of the bumper off. Unbolt the black strip holding the bumper right along the edge of the hood opening. Gently/slowly pull the bumper forward and off starting around the headlights (tabs holding the bumper to the chassis should unseat) and work your way toward the left for the rest of the bumper and stop prying around the passenger headlight. You may optionally remove the entire bumper (I explain how/why later).

Now the fun part. While prying back the bumper, feel for 2 bolts bolted to the chassis/radiator support and unbolt them. Now you need to gently twist/pull/wrestle the snorkel out. One thing that could make this process easier is to remove the passenger sidemarker and pull the bumper off completely. That way you can see (instead of blindly guess) how to maneuver the snorkel out.

Lverasky 04-09-2013 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jkr (Post 853548)
does anyone who installed one know how to remove the OEM air scoop. The instructions were a little vague...

that is so tough..I have hard time to remove the front bumper too to get my aFe Takeda Instake install.

It require you remove the bolts over the side marker to get into the driver side bumper to be able take the front bumper off.

jkr 04-09-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by switchlanez (Post 853568)
Now the fun part. While prying back the bumper, feel for 2 bolts bolted to the chassis/radiator support and unbolt them. Now you need to gently twist/pull/wrestle the snorkel out. One thing that could make this process easier is to remove the passenger sidemarker and pull the bumper off completely. That way you can see (instead of blindly guess) how to maneuver the snorkel out.

holy crap that's a ton of work..... thanks a lot though. I'd thank you but I have yet to figure out how to...

switchlanez 04-09-2013 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jkr (Post 853659)
holy crap that's a ton of work..... thanks a lot though. I'd thank you but I have yet to figure out how to...

Sure NP. To "Thank" I think you need a minimum number of posts. Might've been 10 or something. Just keep posting and you'll eventually see the function right next to the "Quote" and "Quick reply" buttons.

NoFear99 04-09-2013 09:16 PM

Tony my seller and tuner at FA20club.com told me to leave the snorkel there... That is what I'm going to do. Just leave it there and avoid all that mess to pry the bumper and may be broke something....

jkr 04-10-2013 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NoFear99 (Post 853709)
Tony my seller and tuner at FA20club.com told me to leave the snorkel there... That is what I'm going to do. Just leave it there and avoid all that mess to pry the bumper and may be broke something....

the snorkel doesn't fit with the GReddy one in place though. at least I don't think.

trd_kid 04-11-2013 11:51 AM

http://www.greddy.com/upload/img/12519101_FRS_F2.jpg

the snorkel does fit , I have the greddy intake on my car and it looks just like that. As far as the air scoop you don't have to remove the bumper it just requires small hands .. Me and my friend had my stock intake , and the greddy intake installed in roughly 25 minutes and thats with me unplugging the battery and having the car idle for 5 minutes afterwards.

jkr 04-11-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dospod (Post 857489)

the snorkel does fit , I have the greddy intake on my car and it looks just like that. As far as the air scoop you don't have to remove the bumper it just requires small hands .. Me and my friend had my stock intake , and the greddy intake installed in roughly 25 minutes and thats with me unplugging the battery and having the car idle for 5 minutes afterwards.

oh I think they were saying that the air scoop fits with the greddy intake... which I don't see how it does...
anyways I was looking at the battery and how do you get the negative terminal off ?

NoFear99 04-11-2013 02:09 PM

Conclusion, leave the oem snorkel installed in place. It will help bring fresh air to the Greddy / Takeda intake kit...

trd_kid 04-11-2013 02:14 PM

the snorkel piece on the greddy box is closed , you would have to drill a hole out for the snorkel to be functional. It seems the added that piece so you wouldn't have to go through the hassle of deleting it.
And the battery is awkward to get out but nothing that can't be done with your standard 10mm, 12mm, or 14mm sockets lol

NoFear99 04-11-2013 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dospod (Post 857909)
the snorkel piece on the greddy box is closed , you would have to drill a hole out for the snorkel to be functional. It seems the added that piece so you wouldn't have to go through the hassle of deleting it.
And the battery is awkward to get out but nothing that can't be done with your standard 10mm, 12mm, or 14mm sockets lol


We are not talking about the same things.

You are refering to the sounds generator, the tube that goes from the intake box to the passenger side firewall to bring noise into the cabin for pleasure. With the Greddy / Takeda intake kit if you want to keep that functionnal, you have to drill a hole into the plastic connector...

Myself I was refering to the front snorkel that is located into the front bumper.

I want to keep the fresh air scoop in conjuction with my new takeda / Greddy intake kit and I'm also planning to drill a hole into the connector pipe to reuse the noise generator like oem.

trd_kid 04-11-2013 05:12 PM

I have my whole stock intake in my trunk lol but I don't recall seeing the fresh air scoop being removed just the air box and back. I wouldn't feel safe removing the front bumper due to my experiences with my last car, once the bumper is removed the clips just never hold the bumper flush ...

NoFear99 04-11-2013 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dospod (Post 858476)
I have my whole stock intake in my trunk lol but I don't recall seeing the fresh air scoop being removed just the air box and back. I wouldn't feel safe removing the front bumper due to my experiences with my last car, once the bumper is removed the clips just never hold the bumper flush ...


Because the instructions supplied with the intake tell to remove it.

But you are the proof that it is not necessary to remove it if we dont want to.

Personnaly I think it is better to keep it to give fresh air from the front of the car to the intake.

Lverasky 04-11-2013 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NoFear99 (Post 858252)
We are not talking about the same things.

You are refering to the sounds generator, the tube that goes from the intake box to the passenger side firewall to bring noise into the cabin for pleasure. With the Greddy / Takeda intake kit if you want to keep that functionnal, you have to drill a hole into the plastic connector...

Myself I was refering to the front snorkel that is located into the front bumper.

I want to keep the fresh air scoop in conjuction with my new takeda / Greddy intake kit and I'm also planning to drill a hole into the connector pipe to reuse the noise generator like oem.

If you go for aFe takeda you have to remove the air scoop. That is my case.

mike_ekim1024 04-11-2013 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by peace_noel (Post 853570)
that is so tough..I have hard time to remove the front bumper too to get my aFe Takeda Instake install.

It require you remove the bolts over the side marker to get into the driver side bumper to be able take the front bumper off.

Luckily I changed my side markers before I bought my Takeda, so learned how to get them out. It helps when you look where the clips are located:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15560

The manual also doesn't mention the top clip inside the side marker housing that needs to be pulled out. The bumper wasn't too bad, but again, experience from pulling the door panels off gave me an idea of how much force I should apply. You kind of have to gently but firmly pull and get an idea of where the clips are. I got my snorkel out pretty easily, just twisting it then pulling it out. Putting the bumper back on, it wasn't aligning correctly, so I just pulled back and to the right to make sure the clips align. I'm not a car guy, and I didn't have to much of a problem. With doing any of this of course, there is risk. Ask yourself - for any reason, if you break the bumper, will you scream and cuss, or will you just say.. oh well, it was getting dinged and chipped anyway and replace it. If the former, depending on the project it might be good to have someone else do it. For example, I gave up on installing my front sway bar.. it's past my should/can I do this 'threshold'.

Peace,
Mike

NoFear99 04-11-2013 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by peace_noel (Post 858587)
If you go for aFe takeda you have to remove the air scoop. That is my case.

I already have it in my closet into the box.

It just need to be installed but my car is still stored for winter.

How come we have to remove the air scoop ? It wont fit if I let it there ?

whataboutbob 04-11-2013 07:25 PM

I left the snorkel on with my aFe Dry. Works fine!

Lverasky 04-11-2013 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NoFear99 (Post 858795)
I already have it in my closet into the box.

It just need to be installed but my car is still stored for winter.

How come we have to remove the air scoop ? It wont fit if I let it there ?

It just won't fit. I can take some picture to show you why. For those who didn't remove the air scoop and had the aFe intaked installed, I don't know how. you might have to ask them.

Lverasky 04-11-2013 07:34 PM

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@NoFear99 here are some pic that I took during my install of the aFe Takeda Pro-Dry intake.
Attachment 33596Attachment 33597Attachment 33598

If you look at the second pic, that air scoop is on the way if you try put in the intake. That air scoop have to be romove.

NoFear99 04-11-2013 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by whataboutbob (Post 858805)
I left the snorkel on with my aFe Dry. Works fine!

How was the connection between the stock front fresh air scoop and the AFE duct in the engine bay for you ???

Lverasky 04-11-2013 07:53 PM

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Here's the pic of my stock intake with air scoop that removed from the car. Many thanks to help from @Chen to get that install.Attachment 33599

86 FRS 04-11-2013 07:59 PM

snorkel fits on aFe/Greddy. u can just it leave it alone if you dont want to remove the bumper. snorkel is just a restriction of air, i think. correct me if im wrong.

but for me, i remove the snorkel for my Greddy intake.

NoFear99 04-11-2013 08:14 PM

This is becoming very confusing about the stock fresh air scoop...


Some say you can install this intake and keep it.


Some say you cannot install it if you dont remove it.


Who is right ?

Lverasky 04-11-2013 08:21 PM

@NoFear99 when are you going install it? You will know when u r actually install the intake.

For those who didn't remove the air scoop and still able install the takeda/greddy intake. Please provide pic to teach me. I am just so curious how does that work.

86 FRS 04-11-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NoFear99 (Post 858905)
This is becoming very confusing about the stock fresh air scoop...


Some say you can install this intake and keep it.


Some say you cannot install it if you dont remove it.


Who is right ?

put it this way, i installed my greddy with my snorkel on. then after 5minutes before i started to tight all the bolts, decided to remove the snorkel. LOL

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Originally Posted by peace_noel (Post 858923)
@NoFear99 when are you going install it? You will know when u r actually install the intake.

For those who didn't remove the air scoop and still able install the takeda/greddy intake. Please provide pic to teach me. I am just so curious how does that work.

im not sure why ur aFe doesnt fit with the snorkel, Greddy and aFe is the same intake just a different brand. mine just went in, no issues.

Lverasky 04-11-2013 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 86 FRS (Post 858938)
put it this way, i installed my greddy with my snorkel on. then after 5minutes before i started to tight all the bolts, decided to remove the snorkel. LOL



im not sure why ur aFe doesnt fit with the snorkel, Greddy and aFe is the same intake just a different brand. mine just went in, no issues.

take a look.. my aFe intake have the long open from the front.

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/019...x1024.jpg?1279

there is another type of aFe intake..which has the short openning.

http://www.fa20club.com/images/P/afe%20intake.jpg

if you google the intake..there comes up some short and some long opening...I don't know why either.


Same for the Greddy brand

Long Opening
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/019...x1024.jpg?1279


Short opening
http://scionpro.com/images/F48718792.jpg
@NoFear99 @86 FRS The ones with short openning...you don't have to remove the air scoop. The long openning ones required.

86 FRS 04-11-2013 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by peace_noel (Post 858954)
take a look.. my aFe intake have the long open from the front.

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/019...x1024.jpg?1279

there is another type of aFe intake..which has the short openning.

http://www.fa20club.com/images/P/afe%20intake.jpg

if you google the intake..there comes up some short and some long opening...I don't know why either.

im guessing urs is the 1st aFe intake that came out? what i heard is that, Greddy/aFe made a changes with the intake. not really sure. I have the short opening intake.

maybe the long open have issues with the snorkels.

Foobar 04-11-2013 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 86 FRS (Post 858964)
im guessing urs is the 1st aFe intake that came out? what i heard is that, Greddy/aFe made a changes with the intake. not really sure. I have the short opening intake.

maybe the long open have issues with the snorkels.

Short opening was the original design. They switched to the long opening later.

The stock snorkel has a more restrictive air path.

Lverasky 04-11-2013 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Foobar (Post 859137)
Short opening was the original design. They switched to the long opening later.

The stock snorkel has a more restrictive air path.

@86 FRS @NoFear99 My afe Takeda is the long version one. It does require remove the air scoop.
From googling, seems like the long openning is the latest version that aFe/Greddy updated..check out their website page..their both page have the long openning version on there. The short openning had been discountinued as far as it show.

usptwins 04-11-2013 10:00 PM

And that explains it... lol Remove the snorkel if you have the longer wider opening and then you will still get great airflow.

86 FRS 04-11-2013 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foobar (Post 859137)
Short opening was the original design. They switched to the long opening later.

The stock snorkel has a more restrictive air path.

Quote:

Originally Posted by peace_noel (Post 859152)
@86 FRS @NoFear99 My afe Takeda is the long version one. It does require remove the air scoop.
From googling, seems like the long openning is the latest version that aFe/Greddy updated..check out their website page..their both page have the long openning version on there. The short openning had been discountinued as far as it show.

oh. that make sense now. i thought it was the long opening is the original design. lol

whataboutbob 04-12-2013 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by NoFear99 (Post 858844)
How was the connection between the stock front fresh air scoop and the AFE duct in the engine bay for you ???

Mine just slipped right over the foam covered coupler. Not sure why others are having problems. :iono:

edit: Ah, i see that some are short and others are long. Mine was short.

gvan1998 04-20-2013 07:53 PM

i have the long one and it slipped over the snorkel very easily. The afe with snorkel sounded the same as stock intake. After a week, I removed the snorkel. Now it sounds mean.

Shiro86 04-22-2013 03:42 PM

AFTER removing the bumper, I realized I could have just left the snorkel in there...Oh well. Also, I noticed that there is an almost mechanical suction sound that I can't seem to pin down...I'm thinking it's the hole I drilled into the sound tube making it. Hmmm...

Foobar 04-22-2013 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiro86 (Post 883281)
AFTER removing the bumper, I realized I could have just left the snorkel in there...Oh well. Also, I noticed that there is an almost mechanical suction sound that I can't seem to pin down...I'm thinking it's the hole I drilled into the sound tube making it. Hmmm...

The snorkel is more restrictive than leaving it out, so in theory, you're better off without it. In practice, I'm not sure how much difference, if any, it actually makes.

The suction sound is just inherent to the intake.

Shiro86 04-22-2013 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Foobar (Post 883311)
The snorkel is more restrictive than leaving it out, so in theory, you're better off without it. In practice, I'm not sure how much difference, if any, it actually makes.

The suction sound is just inherent to the intake.

It's not the regular suction noise...There seems to be an additional raspy suction noise apart from the big gulp...Still trying to figure it out or if there's anything loose in the engine bay...

Foobar 04-22-2013 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiro86 (Post 883489)
It's not the regular suction noise...There seems to be an additional raspy suction noise apart from the big gulp...Still trying to figure it out or if there's anything loose in the engine bay...

Hmm, at what engine speed does it occur?

Shiro86 04-22-2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foobar (Post 883311)
The snorkel is more restrictive than leaving it out, so in theory, you're better off without it. In practice, I'm not sure how much difference, if any, it actually makes.

The suction sound is just inherent to the intake.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foobar (Post 883546)
Hmm, at what engine speed does it occur?

Going to figure that out later and get back to you...Seems to be happening on upshifts at higher revs since the regular suction noise is all I hear below 4500 rpm.

Shiro86 04-23-2013 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Foobar (Post 883546)
Hmm, at what engine speed does it occur?

Well the noise disappeared. Ha!


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