new to tuning, who to go with?
 

Did a little research on the forums and noticed there are plenty to go with.

I'm leaning on visconti, but here are my plans.

Im currently running a drop in filter because I'm not going to waste money on a intake system that does nothing.

Im also running a full header back. Motiv overpipe and hfc and perrins' unres catback.

I might go supercharged in the future, but I want to wait and check out my options and get a game plan.

I would like something easy to use that wont blow upp my car. And no, im not trackin right now.

I've only tried Visconti but I've had zero issues and highly recommend this tune.

how do you go about getting the tune? did you go to a shop? does it plug into the car and you drive with it so the tune learns the car ? rookie over here too but did a little research

Go to a local reputable tuner if at all possible. The drift office should be local to you, they seem to have some solid results on this platform comparable to any of the other tuners here.

If possible a tune made to order would be best.

How you get a tune from Visconti is you pay him, he sends you the hardware, a flash drive and obd2 to usb cable, you then install somesoft ware onto a windows laptop, then you email him and he sends you the tune. You use the cable and laptop to load it into your ECU. I was nervous the first time because Ive heard horror stories but Ive never had an issue. The very few that have were taken care of very quickly by both John and Ecutek.

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new to tuning, who to go with?
 

You may have to repeat that process a couple of times, as they may have to "tweak" the tune a bit to optimize it for your specific car.

Alright that kinda gives me a good start on where to go. So far I have touched base with a local performance shop who installed my exhaust.

We talked about it a little, but we pretty much talked about all the risks associated with tuning. Not to scare me off, but just to let me know what happens with some folks cars. Especially, when they dont know what they are doing and fry their ecu...yikes

Ive hearg pretty good things about visconti, however. I would like to see how much cost all this crap entails and if its worth it, or just hype.

Here's how you purchase the flash from Visconti Tuning. I've posted both the pump gas only kit and the pump gas + e85 kit. Both kits include the cable, the license and the maps - everything you need to perform the tune yourself.

If you have e85 in your area, then you'll absolutely want to get the kit that has both the pump gas map and e85 map. The e85 map will give you about 25-30 whp, so it's much better to take advantage of e85 if it's available in your area :).

Here's a run down of the four maps you'll get and their features (applicable to both pump gas and e85 maps):

Map 1 - Tune + Stock Rev Limiter
Map 2 - Tune + 8000RPM Rev Limiter in 2nd Gear + Launch Control + Flat Foot Shifting
Map 3 - Tune + 8000RPM Rev Limiter in 2nd Gear + Launch Control + Flat Foot Shifting + RaceRom Traction Control
Map 4 - Tune + 8000RPM Rev Limiter in 2nd Gear + Launch Control + Flat Foot Shifting + More Agreesive RaceRom Traction Control

And below this, are links to purchase the packages. Let me know if you have any questions!

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-Rich

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Hi rich,

Im not sure about e85 in the seattle area. But, when you make that convertion doesnt o e have to replace all their fuel system components to run the E85?.

On my phone, links are not working for me atm.

I hear replacing the fuel system is not cheap. Could be wrong though.

Thanks! Lol

No modifications are required. Just make sure it's an empty tank before you fill with e85 (and switch maps).

Funny thing about our cars (FRS/BRZ), no fuel system changes are necessary to run e85. While the long-term effects haven't been tested..(i.e. the car has only been out for 10 months or so), the only drawback seen from e85 so far has been a loss of mpg. So no worries about additional costs for fuel system. Just need the right tune to run it.

You had one too many of these ] before the = :D anyway sorry for off topic...

I am using FA20Club's Stage 2 tune on pump and when I can do logging, soon to be E85. I like the tune. You can't go wrong with most solutions on this board. Do a local tune if you can, if not John or FA20Club are great safe tunes.

The DI fuel pump squeak or creak or cricket noise or whatever it is has, i believe, been linked to Ethanol content. It was reported by one user that dealers were instructed to randomly sample fuel as they seem to only be seeing DI fule pump issues in areas where ethanol blend fuels are used.

Alright thanks for fixing the links!

Yeah, wow 1300 for 20-30whp for e85. What kind of gains would you see for 92 rating?

Pretty amazing to not have to make all these mods to run e85. Last time I did run it, it was on 04 stratus and my car ran so so bad.

Yeah my cricket noise comes and goes. Thats a tsb recall right?

Yes but it won't be fixed. It has to do with Fuel nothing else. I would not waste your time trying/worring about it. Its not harming anything in the engine or DI pump.

I'd recommend going to bob at the drift office to get your tune. Local tuning solutions are better to account for local conditions.

Just my 2 cents, but the visconti is pretty awesome. Just flashed it this morning and gotta admit it idles much better and the mid torque increase is pretty freakin nice. it picks up quicker now. the launch control is pretty sick too. on map 3 and 4 the added traction control is really fun! I'm super happy with the flash. The instructions on the process of getting the stuff then getting the file can be confusing and they are pretty damn busy so expect a little tiny wait when needing a reply. Well worth the wait though!

Ah right on was concerned about the fuell system with a tune.

Thanks, ive heard good things about that shop. Have you been in inishi motors in Bellevue? Good group.

You make good points.

Question is the 8k rpm only for 2nd gear... you dont get 8k rpms in first as well or 3rd,4th ect? Also whats the between the two racerom traction controls compared to stock?

I have a Visconti tune as well and it has been the best upgrade I could have put on the car, performance wise. As for the 8k redline, it is only on 2nd gear. And its only there for 0-60 (lets you get above 60 before shifting out of 2nd). As for traction control, I cant really speak for it as I havent used it. But..it is supposed to be a kinder traction control, not as invasive or as abrupt. But I've only run into the stock traction control once or twice, so I havent played around with the racerom one much. Hopefully someone else can chime in and add their experience.

the traction controls on stock really correct your "actions." turning traction control off and using map 3, i noticed i got sideways with some correction. 4 seemed like nothing was there hahaha. i could be wrong though since i was having so much fun getting sideways with my nitto nt05 on my work emotions haha

The main reason we raised 2nd gear to 8k is for 0-60 times. The stock FR-S/BRZ cannot hit 60mph in 2nd gear. By eliminating the need for that 2nd shift into 3rd to hit 60, you get much faster times :). But you wouldn't want to raise the limit for all gears because its unnecessary wear. Remember - reliability and safety are still top priority with our tunes. And besides, peak HP is made at about 6800rpm with our map anyway, so we've set the right limits in each gear.

With regard to TC, racerom allows us to create a more aggressive traction control system using custom logic to allow for more slip. Map 4 is more aggressive (more slip) than map 3 and keep in mind, you must disable the factory traction control before our system kicks in.

So when running your maps you can you still turn traction control off all the way?

I was asking about 2nd gear as in autocross 8k rpms in first would help you a lot as well. Helping you stay in the power band more ect.


Never mind. I would assume map 2.

Correct; maps 1 & 2 do not incorporate the Racerom TC we have in maps 3 & 4. Therefore, by disengaging the factory TC while in map 1 or 2, TC is off.

I want to be careful about making any promises, but perhaps we could put together an autocross map that would raise the limit in 1st gear, and maybe provide a wider torque band too (which would require higher octane or preferably e85) because I absolutely understand what ya mean. I've done my fair share of autocrossing and it's (generally) pretty low speed, rarely requiring 3rd gear, so we could potentially adjust for those conditions in a new map.

We have so much on our plate at the moment, and we're doing our best to stay on track with our objectives right now. But we will still be working as hard as ever to accomodate our customer base's wants and needs, especially good ideas. If there's a high enough demand for an Autocross specific map, I'll see if we can get that put together.

As always, we'll keep everyone up to date on new developments, updates, etc.

i had the cricket issue and the dealer replaced the pump with a new, revised one and the cricket sound stopped completely and this was done months ago. it doesn't harm anything, but it is fixable if the sound annoys you

Give it time it will come back

I had mine replaced around thanksgiving. Just came back in the last few days.

damn well that sucks. it has been something like 7 months since it was done... and now summer is coming so imma have crickets all night and day! haha

"Support local businesses" should play a role too, especially since Bob is considered a tuning authority in some circles.

Wells thats just freakin annoying...


Oh well, embrace the crickets!

Rich@ViscontiTuning, How come auto blip is not included in your tunes?

its a requested option now, John will put autoblip on if you want just not standard anymore.

@Bu-Tang is correct; it's now a requested feature because it has the potential to be some-what dangerous at low speeds if you're not being careful or paying attention (like in stop and go traffic).

But if you want it, submit a ticket to our support console and we'll take care of ya!

Didn't read your whole thread, but this is a no-brainer... @Drift-Office is one of the best tuners out there and he's right down your alley. Whether you're a Visconti, Perrin, FA20club customer or etc; everyone knows a dyno tune (that DO offers) is hands down better than an e-tune. Bob @Drift-Office knows his stuff, and actually owns an FRS which he R&D'd his tunes on. @AVOturboworld works closely with him for his expertise and tools at his disposal.

If you're getting a SC, he's offered to tune free of charge (first SC customer only)...

If you've been to a meet, you e probably met Bob and didn't even know it.

Listen to @mechaghost, he's bought other tuners tunes and he ended up with Bob's tune.