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EAGLE5 03-15-2013 02:19 AM

Clutch Pedal Adjustment?
 
Did you Bay Area people do your clutch pedal adjustment yet? I'm thinking of offering it as a service. I've been under there five times so far to get it right. It's getting to be second nature.

PMok 03-15-2013 02:26 AM

I attempted to do it once, but found the 14mm (or was it 13mm) wrench I had was too long to let me do it... then I decided to leave it be and learn to shift/clutch with it as it was... the higher engagement point lets me just quickly stab the clutch when making shifts, in theory making the shifts faster.

But yeah climbing down there is a bit awkward... I almost got stuck down there and took some effort to get myself back out. :lol:

EAGLE5 03-15-2013 02:53 AM

The $7.99 metric set from Sears just barely fits there. A shorty would make it much easier. 12mm for the clutch and 14mm for the sensor. I find it 1000 times easier to shift now. It's unbelievable. I did have it a bit low at first, so I just moved it up. When it was too low, shifting into reverse was hard when cold. Now, a little bit below the brake, it all works great.

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Originally Posted by PMok (Post 794881)
I attempted to do it once, but found the 14mm (or was it 13mm) wrench I had was too long to let me do it... then I decided to leave it be and learn to shift/clutch with it as it was... the higher engagement point lets me just quickly stab the clutch when making shifts, in theory making the shifts faster.

But yeah climbing down there is a bit awkward... I almost got stuck down there and took some effort to get myself back out. :lol:


EAGLE5 03-19-2013 12:37 PM

I keep adjusting and readjusting, trying to find the perfect spot. I think I have now. If you go to low, the pedal will not spring back fully into position. I've now set the pedal exactly at the lowest point where it will still spring back.

dun3 03-19-2013 01:00 PM

want! How about I buy you a 6 pack

EAGLE5 03-20-2013 02:52 AM

I am not such an easy date! Instead, buy me one of these or one of these (or any super short 12mm) to make the job easier. Also bring something like these (notice 3/8" thick... 1/4" may work, about 10mm diameter, and self-adhesive) to make adjusting the sensor a snap. Then you've got a deal.

My stinky socks may also hit your ceiling, just a warning.

dun3 03-20-2013 04:00 AM

I think we might have a date.. Gimme some time though.. I may get a little lazy, but I wanna try this out! Will pm you, thanks much!

CamryDS 04-01-2013 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jsimon7777 (Post 805178)
I am not such an easy date! Instead, buy me one of these or one of these (or any super short 12mm) to make the job easier. Also bring something like these (notice 3/8" thick... 1/4" may work, about 10mm diameter, and self-adhesive) to make adjusting the sensor a snap. Then you've got a deal.

My stinky socks may also hit your ceiling, just a warning.

shorty's go for 7.99 at your local walmart -- pack of 12 -- bought my set, going to try. I'm 6'4" and i'm not a contortionist, so I might hit you up and just give you my 9 piece set =).

strat61caster 04-01-2013 12:12 PM

Why would you want the engage point lower? Then it just takes longer to shift gears... :(

Can someone explain?

CamryDS 04-01-2013 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 833208)
Why would you want the engage point lower? Then it just takes longer to shift gears... :(

Can someone explain?

I'm not sure about others, but right now my foot raises too high when I let go of the clutch and it causes the feeling of shifting in and out of gear to feel unnatural.

I'm coming from driving a celica and the celica's shifting feels way more natural as it's pedals are lower and biting point is lower. If this adjustments makes it feel like the clutch engagement is lower than the previous point, it should shift the same way, just engage at a lower point. Right now my left leg lifts way too high when I shift and it's caused me to stall my car more than I want (which is anywhere above 0).

strat61caster 04-01-2013 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CamryDS (Post 833235)
I'm not sure about others, but right now my foot raises too high when I let go of the clutch and it causes the feeling of shifting in and out of gear to feel unnatural.

So once you hit the full engagement point you just slide your foot off the pedal and let it snap up on it's own because you don't need that last bit of travel?

CamryDS 04-01-2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 833342)
So once you hit the full engagement point you just slide your foot off the pedal and let it snap up on it's own because you don't need that last bit of travel?

Once the biting point/engagement point is met, (from my teacher) you're suppose to pause for a moment then slowly disengage the clutch. Slowly can go from anywhere of 3 seconds to 1/2 a second, depending how advanced you are at driving.

Even with the slow disengaging I'm still lifting my foot off way too far and the engagement point is way too high for me to be comfortable and the car hesitates in shifting.

strat61caster 04-01-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CamryDS (Post 833367)
Once the biting point/engagement point is met, (from my teacher) you're suppose to pause for a moment then slowly disengage the clutch. Slowly can go from anywhere of 3 seconds to 1/2 a second, depending how advanced you are at driving.

Even with the slow disengaging I'm still lifting my foot off way too far and the engagement point is way too high for me to be comfortable and the car hesitates in shifting.

Gotcha, entirely preferential.

Thanks.

CamryDS 04-01-2013 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 833607)
Gotcha, entirely preferential.

Thanks.

You're correct, entirely preferential -- no real need to do this =)

EAGLE5 04-01-2013 03:38 PM

The pedal travel is moved lower. The engagement point relative to pedal movement from its resting point remains the same. Before and after the mod, you disengage the clutch by pushing all the way down. There's a lot less distance to travel for the mod. Then you engage by lifting all the way off. Again, a lot less distance to travel. Unfortunately both ways are imperfect. I want the engagement point moved down while still having some freeplay above the engagement point. I'd also like a quicker engagement, but there's supposedly delay valves built into the master and slave cylinders. I have a lot of trouble driving smoothly as i have to engage so slowly.

dun3 04-02-2013 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jsimon7777 (Post 833782)
I have a lot of trouble driving smoothly as i have to engage so slowly.

Me too, but it's mainly 1st to 2nd. All other gears are good.

CamryDS 04-02-2013 07:41 PM

i'm going to try this tonight -- I hope for good luck.

Melody 04-02-2013 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jsimon7777 (Post 803280)
I keep adjusting and readjusting, trying to find the perfect spot. I think I have now. If you go to low, the pedal will not spring back fully into position. I've now set the pedal exactly at the lowest point where it will still spring back.

we learned this... the hard way :cry:

did make the car smoother to shift... until the pedal didn't spring back.

ck-GT86 03-04-2014 03:00 AM

Sorry to revive this, but I just removed the helper spring on the clutch on top of already having my pedal adjusted from before -- HUGE difference, feels like a real clutch now. The grabbing point is a little higher, so I adjusted it to be even lower. Several people have removed these helper springs from other forums/cars, no issues from what I've researched. Can't imagine it doing any damage to ours.

.ck

SOLDIER [X] 03-04-2014 10:34 AM

I still need to do this but I just haven't had any time. I don't want to screw anything up and have it basically riding the clutch.

ck-GT86 03-04-2014 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER [X] (Post 1573146)
I still need to do this but I just haven't had any time. I don't want to screw anything up and have it basically riding the clutch.

You won't ride the clutch at all, it's a minor adjustment. The problem you may have is a pedal that wont return if you adjust the grab point down near the floor. Simple to return it back, I can help you if you're local to Sunnyvale/SJ

.ck

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CamryDS 03-04-2014 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER [X] (Post 1573146)
I still need to do this but I just haven't had any time. I don't want to screw anything up and have it basically riding the clutch.

This is one of the easiest modifications there is. I've driven the car about a year with it -- no clutch burns nothing. Biting point moved and am VERY happy with it -- though I didn't do much of an adjustment to the clutch, just about 1-2mm above the brake pedal, I didn't need it that low.

SOLDIER [X] 03-04-2014 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ck-GT86 (Post 1573268)
You won't ride the clutch at all, it's a minor adjustment. The problem you may have is a pedal that wont return if you adjust the grab point down near the floor. Simple to return it back, I can help you if you're local to Sunnyvale/SJ

.ck

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I'll try doing it when I have a free weekend, been very busy after just getting married. I'm in the East Bay area but I can most definitely make it out to Sunnyvale/SJ. Thanks for the offer for help, I may hit you up on that if I run into issues.

BRZkitty 03-05-2014 12:17 AM

this was the 1st thing i did after i bought my brz in july :)
wasn't too hard, just had to play with where it felt comfortable to me

Byoki 03-05-2014 04:20 AM

Would anyone like to do this for me please? I don't mind driving to the Bay Area :) Of course I'll pay or buy food for taking the time to do this. Thanks! :)

mitosis 03-05-2014 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Byoki (Post 1575412)
Would anyone like to do this for me please? I don't mind driving to the Bay Area :) Of course I'll pay or buy food for taking the time to do this. Thanks! :)

I'll do it for free, I even keep the necessary wrench in my trunk at all times... I can just do it at the meet you've got planned on the 16th, or if you wanna drive to Davis before then I can do it just about any weekday after 4 pm. Actually today I'm driving to Carmichael after work so I could even meet you somewhere if you'd like, as long as it's not too far off the beaten path. PM me if you're interested.

Same goes to any of you in the Sac area who need this done.

Byoki 03-05-2014 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mitosis (Post 1576253)
I'll do it for free, I even keep the necessary wrench in my trunk at all times... I can just do it at the meet you've got planned on the 16th, or if you wanna drive to Davis before then I can do it just about any weekday after 4 pm. Actually today I'm driving to Carmichael after work so I could even meet you somewhere if you'd like, as long as it's not too far off the beaten path. PM me if you're interested.

Same goes to any of you in the Sac area who need this done.

Sweet thanks! If you can do it at the meet that would be great then. I'll buy you a drink and food at the boba place? :)

mitosis 03-05-2014 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Byoki (Post 1576286)
Sweet thanks! If you can do it at the meet that would be great then. I'll buy you a drink and food at the boba place? :)

Sounds good, no compensation needed but I'm not one to turn down a bubble tea :w00t:

JDis3 08-12-2014 01:05 AM

i tried doing this mod but find myself too anal retentive and paranoid to be satisfied without knowing for sure I'm not messing up the sensor or the clutch. I'm in the East bay (Fairfield) is anyone nearby that could help me out?

NissanGuy 08-12-2014 12:15 PM

You don't need a shorty wrench at all... The natural thing is to try to use the wrench at a 6:00 position, which doesn't allow enough room. 9:00, on the other hand...

EAGLE5 08-12-2014 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JDis3 (Post 1894870)
i tried doing this mod but find myself too anal retentive and paranoid to be satisfied without knowing for sure I'm not messing up the sensor or the clutch. I'm in the East bay (Fairfield) is anyone nearby that could help me out?

Not too nearby, in Castro Valley, but if we can set a time for you to head down, I'll help. Really, you just have to adjust it so the clutch pedal is maybe 1cm higher than the brake pedal. It's much more comfortable than stock and still gives tons of room to fully disengage the clutch.

JDis3 08-12-2014 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jsimon7777 (Post 1895436)
Not too nearby, in Castro Valley, but if we can set a time for you to head down, I'll help. Really, you just have to adjust it so the clutch pedal is maybe 1cm higher than the brake pedal. It's much more comfortable than stock and still gives tons of room to fully disengage the clutch.


I've actually already adjusted it but cant seem to get the right adjustment. I feel like the sensor's collar is pushing on the clutch too much and is dictating the height instead of the clutch master rod. It would be great if anyone could reply with some pictures of the positioning of their clutch master rod and the sensor threading. Just so i can see how far the threading is at both locations to have a reference.

EAGLE5 08-12-2014 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JDis3 (Post 1895439)
I've actually already adjusted it but cant seem to get the right adjustment. I feel like the sensor's collar is pushing on the clutch too much and is dictating the height instead of the clutch master rod. It would be great if anyone could reply with some pictures of the positioning of their clutch master rod and the sensor threading. Just so i can see how far the threading is at both locations to have a reference.

I moved the clutch switch so that it is not the stopper of the pedal when released. That means the switch isn't completely depressed ever, just mostly depressed when the clutch pedal is released. If the switch is stopping the pedal, you need to move the switch back.

JDis3 08-12-2014 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jsimon7777 (Post 1895578)
I moved the clutch switch so that it is not the stopper of the pedal when released. That means the switch isn't completely depressed ever, just mostly depressed when the clutch pedal is released. If the switch is stopping the pedal, you need to move the switch back.

thats what i figured, could you take a picture of your sensor threading. Both in the engaged and depressed position. Also of your clutch master rod threading?

unsurety 08-12-2014 02:05 PM

Make sure you're spinning the clevis and not the rod. Shouldn't need to worry about the sensor then.

JDis3 08-12-2014 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by unsurety (Post 1895656)
Make sure you're spinning the clevis and not the rod. Shouldn't need to worry about the sensor then.

The thing is i've already adjusted the sensor and dont recall how it was positioned prior to adusting it. im not having any issues with the rod/cleavis adjustment, moreso with the sensor.

EAGLE5 08-12-2014 02:28 PM

I'll try to remember too. Harder than it sounds.

awhatzable 05-16-2015 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jsimon7777 (Post 794873)
Did you Bay Area people do your clutch pedal adjustment yet? I'm thinking of offering it as a service. I've been under there five times so far to get it right. It's getting to be second nature.

wish you were from Sydney..

jcygts6 05-19-2015 02:03 PM

my clutch pedal makes a single click noise now when i shift gears after i depress it and let off it. I wonder what it may be, it sure is annoying. Anyone knows how i can fix this?

jcygts6 05-19-2015 02:03 PM

also it happens first 10 min of driving, after everything is warmed up, the noise goes away. It only clicks when the car is on and I am driving. if it is off and i am depressing the clutch pedal, it makes no noise


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