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ft86me 03-13-2013 01:13 AM

Header question
 
Currently have ark catback and ark test pipe. Would getting a header throw a CEL? Is the primary cat or "was" where the test pipe is now? Sorry for the elementary Q.

Ch3cho86 03-13-2013 01:22 AM

http://www.google.com.pr/search?q=fr...obile&ie=UTF-8

First thread talks about it

Noob4Life 03-13-2013 01:23 AM

Unless you get a catted header you will throw a cell. Most people delete the second cat without issues but the first cat (the one thats in the header) will be a problem.

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ft86me 03-13-2013 01:31 AM

Thanks to both of you for the replies. Well in that case, it's either a catted header orrrr some kind of compromise since my test pipe deleted the cat. any suggestions? I did read the first post via the link, BUT there was no result.

Mitch 03-13-2013 02:14 AM

When Nameless releases their equal length chatted header, get that. A lot of us are holing out for it. Hopefully the production unit has the same gains, because it's looking awesome.

ft86me 03-13-2013 03:20 AM

I think i saw on ft86speedfactory that hks has a catted el header.

Mitch 03-13-2013 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft86me (Post 790118)
I think i saw on ft86speedfactory that hks has a catted el header.

Haven't seen the dyno numbers, but the primaries on the Nameless unit look a lot longer. FT86SpeedFactory gives amazing deals and has equally fantastic customer support, which is why it really hurts me to say wait for the Nameless unit. But just wait.

ft86me 03-13-2013 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch (Post 790174)
Haven't seen the dyno numbers, but the primaries on the Nameless unit look a lot longer. FT86SpeedFactory gives amazing deals and has equally fantastic customer support, which is why it really hurts me to say wait for the Nameless unit. But just wait.

i can't even seem to find the nameless header around anywhere or even a pic. so nameless is going to have one with a cat?

ft86me 03-13-2013 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch (Post 790174)
Haven't seen the dyno numbers, but the primaries on the Nameless unit look a lot longer. FT86SpeedFactory gives amazing deals and has equally fantastic customer support, which is why it really hurts me to say wait for the Nameless unit. But just wait.

this
http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_artic...strations.aspx

Mitch 03-13-2013 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft86me (Post 790203)
i can't even seem to find the nameless header around anywhere or even a pic. so nameless is going to have one with a cat?

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9179

XPR Small Block 03-13-2013 05:37 AM

i have a question.. how would you be able to go full catless with out throwing a code??? see i live in a one time smog county in nor-cal wont really need the cats on the car.

ft86me 03-13-2013 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch (Post 790221)

that's so sick. well just a matter of time then i guess. i have no other option but to do a header with a cat on there or my light will be on all day haha

Sportsguy83 03-13-2013 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft86me (Post 790245)
that's so sick. well just a matter of time then i guess. i have no other option but to do a header with a cat on there or my light will be on all day haha

1) Nameless header (AFAIK) will be catless.

2) If you get a header and a tune, it won't matter that you have no Cats, the tune will take care of the CEL

3) There are O2 sensor spacers available that you can fit into the second O2 sensor and get rid of the CEL that way.

XPR Small Block 03-13-2013 08:01 AM

what kind of spacers are those?? where to buy? im goin nameless all the way catless header-3in test pipe-axle back non offset, 4 in mufflers

Sportsguy83 03-13-2013 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPR Small Block (Post 790303)
what kind of spacers are those?? where to buy? im goin nameless all the way catless header-3in test pipe-axle back non offset, 4 in mufflers

Example:

http://store.42draftdesigns.com/O2-S...cer_p_306.html

Description:

Quote:

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XPR Small Block 03-13-2013 08:19 AM

ok good info, i assume getting a tune is the better way to go though?

Sportsguy83 03-13-2013 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPR Small Block (Post 790312)
ok good info, i assume getting a tune is the better way to go though?

Yes, getting a tune is the proper way :D

XPR Small Block 03-13-2013 08:24 AM

ill just get a tune from nameless at the same time i get the exhaust

Captain Insano 03-14-2013 12:38 AM

Trying to hold off buying a header but all they options are making it very difficult!


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