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DBacon1052 02-27-2013 07:50 PM

Chirp in SoCal Advise
 
I noticed chirping in my FR-S and want to get it fixed. I don't want to go to a dealer thats never done it before though. Has anyone else had the chirp fixed? If so, which dealership did you get it done at?

oso_25 02-27-2013 08:25 PM

It's normal but if its bugging you that much change gas stations I believe using shell 91 gas kills the chirp noise here and there

that_one_guy 02-27-2013 09:18 PM

everyone thinks the chirping is the fuel pump but its actually an electrical problem. you can adjust it with the volume knob on your stereo, just keep turning up the volume until the chirping is gone

WRM 02-27-2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by oso_25 (Post 761898)
It's normal but if its bugging you that much change gas stations I believe using shell 91 gas kills the chirp noise here and there

I second this. Out of Unocal 76, Chevron, and Shell, Shell has been quiet. Crickets are usually the worst in the heat of summer.

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Originally Posted by that_one_guy (Post 761985)
everyone thinks the chirping is the fuel pump but its actually an electrical problem. you can adjust it with the volume knob on your stereo, just keep turning up the volume until the chirping is gone

I second this also, especially if you have upgraded to the OEM Audio Plus system.

subiestar 02-27-2013 09:32 PM

I was just saying this in the general FR-S section, I've been using Chevron with hardly any chirps. I tried Shell 91 and it gave me a lot of chirping, switched back to Chevron and it was gone.

EK_Golfer 02-27-2013 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oso_25 (Post 761898)
It's normal but if its bugging you that much change gas stations I believe using shell 91 gas kills the chirp noise here and there

Quote:

Originally Posted by subiestar (Post 762010)
I was just saying this in the general FR-S section, I've been using Chevron with hardly any chirps. I tried Shell 91 and it gave me a lot of chirping, switched back to Chevron and it was gone.

I've used only Shell up to now, and the chirping has been consistent. Maybe I'll try Chevron.

Fish 02-27-2013 09:57 PM

I've honestly forgot about the chirping noise.

I believe a few people have gone to Longo for that fix though.

DSOmegaX 02-27-2013 10:24 PM

There's really no point fixing this at this time. Everyone I know that's gone in, all of them had the chirping come back (basically means its not a fuel pump issue like they sat it is, and they have no idea what's causing it). you'll just have to live with it. Honestly, as others are saying, you'll hardly notice its there after a while.

Pscylo 02-27-2013 10:28 PM

The noise is the fuel pump, everyone knows that. They replace it with the exact same part and the chirps come back...its from fuel and lack of internal lubrication in the pump, aka its normal, but no one know what the long term effect of the lack of lubrication might have...Replacement means the chirp goes away for about 300 miles, until enough of the US gas has gone through and worn the lubricant off of the part that chirps....the pump runs at 2400psi iirc...

Tim_Asphalt_FRS 02-27-2013 11:26 PM

Our gas sucks here.


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Bonburner 02-28-2013 03:03 AM

Chevron &/or Mobil works for me
Shell didn't cut it

QuikSilveRX-8 02-28-2013 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pscylo (Post 762138)
The noise is the fuel pump, everyone knows that. They replace it with the exact same part and the chirps come back...its from fuel and lack of internal lubrication in the pump, aka its normal, but no one know what the long term effect of the lack of lubrication might have...Replacement means the chirp goes away for about 300 miles, until enough of the US gas has gone through and worn the lubricant off of the part that chirps....the pump runs at 2400psi iirc...

Well, if loss of lubrication in the fuel pump is the problem. Try premixing with Idemitsu or Royal Purple in the gas tank(4 oz/fill-up). It burns off clean and won't clog your sock filter, fuel lines, injectors, or OEM Cat-converter and always fill up with 91 oct. :iono:

Pscylo 02-28-2013 04:05 AM

Thats been the bandaid to counter ethanol

QuikSilveRX-8 02-28-2013 10:43 PM

Why would you use ethanol on these cars anyway?

marky 02-28-2013 11:05 PM

when went away after i drove it hard.. i think i heard it try and peek a boo again but died out and never heard of it again.. i use V powa :burnrubber: darn gas is 4.49:eyebulge: a gal :mad0259: im sure it will hit 5+ by spring/summer :bs: i miss the 90s gas price just around a buck for a gal

eklectic8 03-08-2013 03:49 PM

Dealer told me that there is no fix yet. Replacing the pump with new will have the same effect after a short while. We have to wait for a new pump to come out and call in about 2 months or so for them to replace it. There is only a TSB out currently, so no recall yet. It has no effect of the car's performance other than the noise.

Mr.Corvus 03-08-2013 04:21 PM

Wait, what? Chirping? I'm not sure I've ever experienced this phenomenon before. What happens?

that_one_guy 03-08-2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Corvus (Post 780943)
Wait, what? Chirping? I'm not sure I've ever experienced this phenomenon before. What happens?

Was this meant to be typed in sarcastica font? I get the chirps from time to time but never notice it unless the radio is off and windows are down. To be honest, I like the little quirks this car has. Every sport car has had issues like this and I think its to remind the driver that the car's designers were focused on making it fun, not flawless. There are much worse problems to have than chirps, squeaks, and rattles. If you want a car that has no quirks, makes no noises, and is still in the 20K price range then I suggest you buy a corolla. No problems = no character.:happy0180:

Mr.Corvus 03-08-2013 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by that_one_guy (Post 781276)
Was this meant to be typed in sarcastica font? I get the chirps from time to time but never notice it unless the radio is off and windows are down. To be honest, I like the little quirks this car has. Every sport car has had issues like this and I think its to remind the driver that the car's designers were focused on making it fun, not flawless. There are much worse problems to have than chirps, squeaks, and rattles. If you want a car that has no quirks, makes no noises, and is still in the 20K price range then I suggest you buy a corolla. No problems = no character.:happy0180:

Haha, no, I was being serious. I've yet to hear "chirping", but I'm also partial to Chevron gas and I read a few posts saying that fixed the problem for certain drivers :iono:. Also, I'm usually blasting music anyways so maybe that's why I've yet to notice :x

Here, here! (about car quirks) :happy0180:

Choco 03-09-2013 01:32 AM

"Apparently" the Subaru dealer fixed it. Which did not. I learned to live with the noise. I usually use Shell and it still has chirping.

MF_DEUCE 03-09-2013 03:09 AM

power toyota > Cerritos

no more chirping

/thread

DSOmegaX 03-09-2013 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MF_DEUCE (Post 782085)
power toyota > Cerritos

no more chirping

/thread

I'm assuming you got it "repaired" relatively recently. Just give it some time. Your old chirping friend will be back to see you soon.

QuikSilveRX-8 03-09-2013 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by eklectic8 (Post 780872)
Dealer told me that there is no fix yet. Replacing the pump with new will have the same effect after a short while. We have to wait for a new pump to come out and call in about 2 months or so for them to replace it. There is only a TSB out currently, so no recall yet. It has no effect of the car's performance other than the noise.

It will take more than two months, imagine the amount produced in the factories by now. You think TOYOTA will just shove underground the first series pumps somewhere? They'll use those all up before a redesigned pump will see the light of public. And a recall is not necessary unless that pump suddenly blows up and causes bodily harm on the car's occupants. Like I have mentioned, if lubrication is involved, try a premix!

[deleted] 03-09-2013 03:07 PM

I thought Id chime in on the chirping issue here ..

just passed about 3k miles with all Shell gas up until a couple days ago, and chirping since that first fill up.

Filled up with my first full tank of chevron, and all the chirps are gone :)

DAMotorsports 03-10-2013 03:12 PM

It may not be an option for everyone but I have been using Costco for 91 since I got my Raven and thankfully still no signs of chirping. It's really good gas, I get good milage and its the same price as 87 at any other gas station.

Rallysuby 03-13-2013 04:53 PM

Glendale Subaru ordered the replacement pump, installed, chirp gone for the last 5000 miles. =^)

EK_Golfer 03-15-2013 11:05 PM

So for the first 2 months I was using only Shell gas with chirps. So for the last few fill ups I've been using Chevron, and it made no difference, the chirps remained.

jdzumwalt 03-16-2013 07:28 AM

Mine just stopped.

Calin 03-17-2013 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pscylo (Post 762138)
The noise is the fuel pump, everyone knows that. They replace it with the exact same part and the chirps come back...its from fuel and lack of internal lubrication in the pump, aka its normal, but no one know what the long term effect of the lack of lubrication might have...Replacement means the chirp goes away for about 300 miles, until enough of the US gas has gone through and worn the lubricant off of the part that chirps....the pump runs at 2400psi iirc...

So since the replacement fuel pumps are exactly the same, would an aftermarket one fix the issue?

Lakers86 03-22-2013 07:19 PM

I guess i shouldnt try to get this resolved. I have only 300+ miles and chirping is crazy even with Chevron. Ill try shell next time.

QuikSilveRX-8 03-23-2013 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EK_Golfer (Post 796710)
So for the first 2 months I was using only Shell gas with chirps. So for the last few fill ups I've been using Chevron, and it made no difference, the chirps remained.

Has anyone tried putting additives like Marvel Mystery Oil :iono:

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Originally Posted by jdzumwalt (Post 797163)
Mine just stopped.

Did you stop driving your car, as well?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calin (Post 798574)
So since the replacement fuel pumps are exactly the same, would an aftermarket one fix the issue?

Assuming that Walbro makes a replacement, someone in this forum needs to be brave enough to tackle that task and use their car as a guinea pig.

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Originally Posted by Lakers86 (Post 812124)
I guess i shouldnt try to get this resolved. I have only 300+ miles and chirping is crazy even with Chevron. Ill try shell next time.

If you can stand the noise. But if Toyota will replace it free of charge, get the pump replaced, that one may last you a thousand and a few hundreds than the current OEM you have. If the noise comes back, back to the dealer your car goes!

QuikSilveRX-8 03-23-2013 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DAMotorsports (Post 784213)
It may not be an option for everyone but I have been using Costco for 91 since I got my Raven and thankfully still no signs of chirping. It's really good gas, I get good milage and its the same price as 87 at any other gas station.

May be it's the freaking 10% Ethanol mixed in our CA gas. Are there any owners here who resides close to a population that generally has a lot of boat owners? Because gasolines sold predominantly in gas stations in the area have less or no ethanol mixed in the gas.

jdzumwalt 03-24-2013 01:26 AM

I have over 11,000 miles and the chirp wnet away I didn't let it bother me I have a 100k warranty.

nayrk 03-24-2013 02:06 AM

Bought mine roughly 3 weeks ago... Was only at 250 miles when I went to the dealer for LoJack install. The worker came up and asked me if I heard 'that'. Stepped outside and heard the chirp. He asked if I wanted him to take a look at it; I just said not to bother for now since I needed/wanted to drive my car now.

I'm now at ~600 miles and don't hear anything anymore. *shrugs* Was filling up with Shell. Just filled it up with 76 today. I'll keep an ear out for it.


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