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Skurj 02-05-2013 05:11 PM

Tire shop wants to argue... 18x9.5 +38 with 255's
 
Tire shop is really pushing me to get 245/35's for the rear, as the last car they tried 255's on rubbed when lowered (lower than mine will be)

WHeels work emotion kiwami 18x9.5 +38 on rear, they insist i will have rubbing issues if I go with the 255's. And of course they won't takem back if they do rub.

The tire shop won't be putting them on the car and unable to check fitment. They will be just mounting the tires and I will then be dropping the tires/wheels off at my dealer for install on the car before i pick it up..

Just wondering if I should take the 'safe' route and go with the 245's?

I wanted 255's as I don't want alot of stretch which may also make the ride more firm.

Fronts it looks like 225/40 will be safe on 18x8

OrbitalEllipses 02-05-2013 05:12 PM

Go to a speed shop and not a tire shop.

Skurj 02-05-2013 05:50 PM

They are a 'speed' shop but that's not the point..

norsamerican 02-05-2013 05:52 PM

buy the 255s and roll your fenders?

Tylub 02-05-2013 05:55 PM

I'm on 255's in the rears and I have no rubbing whatsoever

Skurj 02-05-2013 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norsamerican (Post 713914)
buy the 255s and roll your fenders?

rolled from the factory..

Skurj 02-05-2013 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tylub (Post 713923)
I'm on 255's in the rears and I have no rubbing whatsoever

Checked your journal, looks like there is room, I am doing a similar drop to you on eibach pro kit. Those are grids in +38 on the rear?

dun3 02-05-2013 08:14 PM

Bring your business elsewhere

drew935 02-05-2013 08:22 PM

Aren't these the same wheels? This is one of my client's car. I think that it had 225 or 235's. :(

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/...S/IMG_8851.jpg

Skurj 02-05-2013 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drew935 (Post 714295)
Aren't these the same wheels? This is one of my client's car. I think that it had 225 or 235's. :(

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/...S/IMG_8851.jpg

They look the same yes, and people have been mounting everything from 225's to 255+ on 9.5's. I certainly don't want anything less than 245, preferrably the 255. I do not like the stretch look, or the harshness that can come with it.

Asphaltfrs1 02-05-2013 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skurj (Post 713991)
rolled from the factory..

The rear is not rolled from the factory, is it? When I checked mine it isn't. Only the front.

drew935 02-05-2013 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skurj (Post 714419)
They look the same yes, and people have been mounting everything from 225's to 255+ on 9.5's. I certainly don't want anything less than 245, preferrably the 255. I do not like the stretch look, or the harshness that can come with it.

Yes, 255's will look proper on it.

Tye300 02-06-2013 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skurj (Post 713795)
Tire shop is really pushing me to get 245/35's for the rear, as the last car they tried 255's on rubbed when lowered (lower than mine will be)

WHeels work emotion kiwami 18x9.5 +38 on rear, they insist i will have rubbing issues if I go with the 255's. And of course they won't takem back if they do rub.

The tire shop won't be putting them on the car and unable to check fitment. They will be just mounting the tires and I will then be dropping the tires/wheels off at my dealer for install on the car before i pick it up..

Just wondering if I should take the 'safe' route and go with the 245's?

I wanted 255's as I don't want alot of stretch which may also make the ride more firm.

Fronts it looks like 225/40 will be safe on 18x8


I have 19x9.5 +43 on 30/265 tires on mine. They don't rub even when lowered. But they are flush with the fender on my current offset. Your offset is a little more aggressive, so it may have the chance of rubbing. Here's a pic of mine.
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...o/IMG_2555.jpg

LeeMaster 02-06-2013 02:32 AM

Ask them to put a used 245 or 255 tire on your rim and make your decision from there. Its not hard to quickly mount up a tire on a rim, should take 5 minutes at most.

Fortunate Few 02-06-2013 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asphaltfrs1 (Post 714442)
The rear is not rolled from the factory, is it? When I checked mine it isn't. Only the front.

It is. It's just not folded flat. There is still a lip at an acute angle.

Asphaltfrs1 02-06-2013 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Fortunate Few (Post 715239)
It is. It's just not folded flat. There is still a lip at an acute angle.

Oh okay, I assumed they would be flat. Thanks for the explanation :)

Calidrifter 02-06-2013 05:52 AM

You can see where it is rolled in the pic above. By tye300

Stance86 02-06-2013 06:13 AM

255's will fit on 18x9.5 +38 without any guard work.

Skurj 02-06-2013 06:35 AM

Thanks guys,

I am going to insist they put the 255's on or I go elsewhere. If the 255's rub, I'll be able to sell the tires pretty quick and get the 245's if needed.

Stance86 02-06-2013 06:40 AM

Go 35 profile, definitely fit.

Jive Turkey 02-06-2013 03:37 PM

dont mean to thread jack but i'm trying to do 18x9.5 +38 or +40 all around with a 255/35 all around as well...anyone do this, is the front going to be a pain?

Skurj 02-06-2013 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jive Turkey (Post 716438)
dont mean to thread jack but i'm trying to do 18x9.5 +38 or +40 all around with a 255/35 all around as well...anyone do this, is the front going to be a pain?

Think from the reading I have done 255 might be abit on the big side for the front..

Turn in Concepts 02-07-2013 08:50 AM

We have 9.5" wheels with a 30 offset and 255 RS3's and only rub a very small amount. We trimmed the rear bumper a hair where it was rubbing and now all is well.

Tony

jadewbj 02-07-2013 09:29 AM

I am on 18×9.5 +40 with 255/35/18 in the rear and am lowered on Tein Flex Coilovers. Not a hint of rubbing. You are doing a +38 so you will be 2mm out more than me but looking at my car I see no issue with an extra 2mm.

http://www.jadecrew.com/wp-content/g...e/img_1450.jpg

Pete156 02-07-2013 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jadewbj (Post 718250)
I am on 18×9.5 +40 with 255/35/19 in the rear and am lowered on Tein Flex Coilovers. Not a hint of rubbing. You are doing a +38 so you will be 2mm out more than me but looking at my car I see no issue with an extra 2mm[/IMG]

WHAT?

You've got 19" tires on 18" wheels? You must be a magician.

jadewbj 02-07-2013 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete156 (Post 718711)
WHAT?

You've got 19" tires on 18" wheels? You must be a magician.

You just need to soak them to get them to shrink up. Sorry for the mistype.

wparsons 02-07-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skurj (Post 716905)
Think from the reading I have done 255 might be abit on the big side for the front..

I don't think 255's will fit with stock struts, but if you're on coilovers with the right offset they should fit.

Tansey86 02-07-2013 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 719563)
I don't think 255's will fit with stock struts, but if you're on coilovers with the right offset they should fit.

They will, as demonstrated a dozen times. You just need the proper offset for it to work.

hachi_dos 02-08-2013 07:42 PM

Im running 18x9.5 +35 and running 255/35 all the way around. the fronts poke slightly but im happy with it. im lowered on coilovers. not super low though.

wparsons 02-08-2013 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tansey86 (Post 719646)
They will, as demonstrated a dozen times. You just need the proper offset for it to work.

Should've clarified... I meant fit without poking.

Tansey86 02-08-2013 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 722652)
Should've clarified... I meant fit without poking.

If you run say a 18x9.5 +42 from what ive seen you can clear it and it is flush.

Dave-ROR 02-08-2013 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skurj (Post 713991)
rolled from the factory..

... up front.

Dave-ROR 02-08-2013 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fortunate Few (Post 715239)
It is. It's just not folded flat. There is still a lip at an acute angle.

It's basically horizontal, it's not at all what most consider rolled (the front is though).

It does have a beveled edge or whatever, but it's still horizontal and sticks in 1/2"-3/4". Less need to roll the rears for most people. They did cut the material back some tough.

SonnyBRZ 02-09-2013 11:18 AM

What tires are you putting on?

For example, I purchased 245/35/18 Michelin Pilot Super Sport. The section width of the 245/35/18 PSS is the same as a...say.. 255s Yoko S-Drives or 255s Hankook V12s. 255s AD08s will almost be an inch wider than 245s PSS.

Generally, the more "Extreme" summer tires have a slightly wider tread width.
265s Evo v12s is only 0.1" wider in tread width compare to a 245 PSS. Depends what you want, i chose the latter.

Skurj 02-09-2013 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonnyBRZ (Post 723519)
What tires are you putting on?

For example, I purchased 245/35/18 Michelin Pilot Super Sport. The section width of the 245/35/18 PSS is the same as a...say.. 255s Yoko S-Drives or 255s Hankook V12s. 255s AD08s will almost be an inch wider than 245s PSS.

Generally, the more "Extreme" summer tires have a slightly wider tread width.
265s Evo v12s is only 0.1" wider in tread width compare to a 245 PSS. Depends what you want, i chose the latter.

Hmm good info, I am going with the Hankook V12's. The car they said they had rubbing with was lower than mine will be and they had fit Michelin PSS which were rubbing a little in 255.

MTCRX 02-09-2013 12:27 PM

You have to remember that many customers are depending on the tire store to get the right tire on the car. And their past experiences with the particular car will be a factor. They want to do the best for you but also don't want to spend a lot of extra time on a wasted effort and risking damaging a vehicle or causing a mechanical failure and maybe a wreck. There are so many people out there that will blame the tire company and demand they fix the problem at their cost. You might consider since this is a special project that it may cost you more. Just because a customer says a tire will fit probably isn't enough for the tire shop staff who deal with tire fitment everyday. Good luck. Maybe find a shop interested in this modification process.


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