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BryceRocket 02-04-2013 12:47 PM

Great results with Cquartz instead of Opticoat
 
On Sunday I had Bryan at Concours Touch auto detailing (http://www.concourstouch.com/) do a new car prep and Cquartz finest application. I thought the car looked decent when I picked it up from the dealer, but it's on a whole new level now. Saved some money in polishing time by getting this done now, and hopefully keep the scratches to a minimum.

Amazing how much deeper the paint looks with the Cquartz applied. Went for the Cquartz over the OptiGuard because of the 2-year warranty, and also the product seemed to be a little harder to scratch and objectively better shine.

Here's a couple cellphone shots when I picked it up. Highly recommend Bryan, he really does a great job.

http://i.imgur.com/hxHoa53l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DiI1uf4l.jpg

chenshuo 02-04-2013 12:57 PM

the question is, has it been proven to last as long as opti-coat?

brianc 02-04-2013 02:14 PM

I don't see how its a valid comparison. I'd like to see someone opticoat half their car and cquartz the other half and see which one lasts longer.

s2kdrew 02-04-2013 02:42 PM

he had cquartz finest, not the regular cquartz. and is not a product any detailer could get.

TemeCal 02-04-2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by brianc (Post 710772)
I don't see how its a valid comparison. I'd like to see someone opticoat half their car and cquartz the other half and see which one lasts longer.

This guy did side-by-side comparisons (half cquartz, half opticoat). Documented and took pictures of the entire process:

Click Here

picus 02-04-2013 03:06 PM

I don't think which one lasts longer will really be the determining factor when people choose Finest or OC; Finest is only marketed as lasting three years max. OC is billed as permanent, and has been around for 5+ years and shows no signs of failing on most cars. The guys getting Finest are doing it because it has a warranty, is is subjectively shinier than OC, it's much slicker, and seems to clean up a little easier. OC is less expensive since it isn't authorized detailers only. So while they are both coatings technically compete with each other, I think they are different enough currently that most people will choose based on which one suits them best.

BryceRocket 02-04-2013 03:28 PM

I definitely opted for the cquartz finest because I liked the finish better and seemed smoother. I never expected it to last more than a couple years, but we'll see how it holds up.

Just hadn't seen nearly as many cars with cquartz finest compared to opticoat, so I wanted to share a good experience. Bryan who did the car really likes the product and so far I agree.

Tdotmale 02-05-2013 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chenshuo (Post 710611)
the question is, has it been proven to last as long as opti-coat?

nope. it hasn't been on the market long enough compared to OC.

Quote:

Originally Posted by picus (Post 710924)
I don't think which one lasts longer will really be the determining factor when people choose Finest or OC; Finest is only marketed as lasting three years max. OC is billed as permanent, and has been around for 5+ years and shows no signs of failing on most cars. The guys getting Finest are doing it because it has a warranty, is is subjectively shinier than OC, it's much slicker, and seems to clean up a little easier. OC is less expensive since it isn't authorized detailers only. So while they are both coatings technically compete with each other, I think they are different enough currently that most people will choose based on which one suits them best.

the durability of the product will certainly be a determining factor. when searching the products, came across a test that OC was tested with washes using only dawn soap and automatic car washes for several years and it held up. no such thing has been done for cquartz f.

OC also has a warranty and also has a authorized detailer list.

picus 02-05-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tdotmale (Post 713773)
nope. it hasn't been on the market long enough compared to OC.



the durability of the product will certainly be a determining factor. when searching the products, came across a test that OC was tested with washes using only dawn soap and automatic car washes for several years and it held up. no such thing has been done for cquartz f.

OC also has a warranty and also has a authorized detailer list.

I think you may have missed my point. Of course living up to the stated durability is key. That said, Finest is sold as lasting two years, OC is sold as permanent. If durability is the only factor I don't think many will cross shop the two; OC would be the obvious choice. That is why I mentioned that they are different enough to cater to different peoples needs.

RE: authorized installers/warranty - yes, opti coat pro (which is replacing OG, and is warrantied) has an authorized installers list. Opti Coat with no warranty will still be commercially available. I brought that up only to mention that Finest will have a higher upcharge than non warrantied Opti Coat. Opti Coat pro will have the same upcharge as Finest in most cases.

BryceRocket 02-06-2013 09:30 PM

Bryan had mentioned to me that the OC Pro warranty isn't available in Canada... No idea why.

asia_minor 02-06-2013 10:06 PM

OC was never about looks, just putting it out there. when I want the car to look it's best, i always top off with some wax, even though it will only stick to the OC for a few days.

picus 02-07-2013 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BryceRocket (Post 717412)
Bryan had mentioned to me that the OC Pro warranty isn't available in Canada... No idea why.

He's right. It's because right now the insurance company that covers the warranty will only cover the U.S. So until that changes the only warrantied coating is Finest. Currently I think there are only three guys authorized to install it in Canada, two in the GTA and one near Windsor. http://www.carpro-us.com/authorized-finest-installers/

tuckdaddy 02-07-2013 04:22 PM

The c-quartz will look much better than opticoat and require a slight bit less care while retaing a bright deep finish

had Jason my local Adams Polishes rep here in San Antonio show me on his truck half the hood is opticoat and the other c-quartz and after 8 months and many automatic paint killing washes later the cquartz was amoother and held a deaper shine than opticoat with less swirling/scrathces

both these products are essentially clear coat for your clear coat...Does not protect againt rockchips or any other shananigens like that.

If i were to ever put a "Nano-Sealent" on my car i would go with c-quartz much better product :D

Sport-Tech 02-07-2013 11:47 PM

Car looks great...now lose the ugly dealer-advertising plate holders and you're good to go.

BryceRocket 02-08-2013 12:51 PM

Car was only a week old when I took the pic, replacement plate covers are on the way :thumbup:

Perfections 02-09-2013 08:58 PM

I apply both opti coat pro and finest, and they both have there place. I've done 2 finest jobs for forum members on this forum. I'm sure you could ask either and they will tell you their thoughts. I've had both on my wife's murano since finest was released in the US. Here's the differences. Opti coat, last forever, finest - 1 layer will last 2+ years, but any finest installer is required to apply 2 layers which will last well beyond 2 years. Finest stays cleaner longer, slicker to the touch if you care about that kinda stuff. If your looking to keep your car looking perfect, somewhere around the 2 year mark your going to be doing a light polish to remove wash induced swirls, so either coating will do. If you could care less about the way your car looks and only want long term protection opti coat is the way to go.

Here's pics of both the finest frs's I've done.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...07E602C8BB.jpg

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...14BA7440A1.jpg

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...3332B60F8A.jpg

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...332C2414CC.jpg

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...332536AABE.jpg

And here's pics of my wife's murano. Drivers side has finest, passenger side opti coat pro.

2 weeks after install

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...ps3402de29.jpg

Foamed
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...ps8ccc3548.jpg

And here's a recent pic after about 6 months of it on my wife's. finest side still staying cleaner.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...psccda261e.jpg

Retro86 02-17-2013 05:55 AM

Quote:

And here's a recent pic after about 6 months of it on my wife's. finest side still staying cleaner.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...psccda261e.jpg
i dont see the difference.

Perfections 02-17-2013 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Retro86 (Post 739950)
i dont see the difference.

Look at the dirty water spot concentration. More white dots on the passenger side. You should also be able to see the tape line in the middle with zero protection.

JsDetail 02-22-2013 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuckdaddy (Post 719420)
The c-quartz will look much better than opticoat and require a slight bit less care while retaing a bright deep finish

had Jason my local Adams Polishes rep here in San Antonio show me on his truck half the hood is opticoat and the other c-quartz and after 8 months and many automatic paint killing washes later the cquartz was amoother and held a deaper shine than opticoat with less swirling/scrathces

both these products are essentially clear coat for your clear coat...Does not protect againt rockchips or any other shananigens like that.

If i were to ever put a "Nano-Sealent" on my car i would go with c-quartz much better product :D

I wonder who did that for him.....,:D. I think I've done enough installs to know which one the FT86 guys in my area like!

tuckdaddy 02-24-2013 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JsDetail (Post 752062)
I wonder who did that for him.....,:D. I think I've done enough installs to know which one the FT86 guys in my area like!

:word:

That'd be you! if detailing and waxing my car with paste wax wasnt stress relieving threapy with me i would probably get cquartz put on. Jason's hood looked good for what he had told me hes run it through still looked real clear minus a couple almost trailrash looking scratches. Quartz holds a much better shine than the opticoat.


you do some beautiful work Jay! Im getting there other than the sealents and steam cleaning. pretty comfortable with my flex!

KingRohan 04-10-2013 03:26 PM

Looks really good. I wanna thank Bryan, for Opti-Coating my wifes FJ Cruiser which i'm sure takes a bit more time then our small cars!

Thanks Bryan, I hope to do business again soon.

Ontariofrs 04-29-2013 10:47 AM

Just had my raven c quartz finest treated. Vlad from upperclassdetailing in Ottawa done a fantastic job. Looks awesome. I am garage storing and not driving in the winter so coating should last more than 2 years imo.

Ontariofrs 04-29-2013 11:54 AM

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