***2014 BRZ Rumors thread***
 

With news soon to follow and guys like me that will be jumping onboard the BRZ owners club we need to start a thread to collate our findings...

I know that they are anticipating the STi version but I am more concerned with the base platform. I will be getting a limited edition.

My questions are:

- Will there be a backup camera?
- Will the the idle issue be fixed?
- Will the condensation issue be fixed?
- Will they have new style of wheels?
- Has the drop sync SAT/NAV issue been resolved?
- Is the BRZ going to have more HP or at least a smother power delivery? If you own one please chime in is it even necessary to add HP or clean up the power band?
- Are any suspension or handling adjustments needed?
- Do any of the current owners have ideas of improvements that would increase the enjoyment of owning one of the TWINs?

Thanks for your responses!

Cheers! :happy0180:

-Nate

I just have to say i like how your car is DMG

I am looking to buy a 2014 model. Here's what I hope will change.

Fixing chirp
Light condensation

That's all.

My wishes though would be for their upgraded exhaust/intake that they have been talking about.

Light condensation is fixed, corrected at the factories and the chirp is also fixed and can be easily fixed by re installing the fuel pump in the tank correctly.

I would not anticipate any real significant changes, more options maybe (however there doesn't seem to be a place allotted for a BU camera)

I think at a bare minimum you are going to see the fixes being done at the dealer integrated at the factory level well before the '14's start rolling out, (obviously as they already have been)

It is unlikely that you will see any real changes to the drivetrain, do not expect more HP or better MPG, the motor just made the wards 10 best motors award...turns out it's a pretty cool little sewing machine...

the car doesn't NEED more HP, you might, but the car has no real problem getting around and is fairly zippy when rev'd above 4k....unless you live above ~4000 ft, (driving through colorado was depressing)

you realize ofcourse that the fuel pump that chirps is not in the tank at all but actually bolted to the driver side cylinder head...

Fair enough - my memory failed me there. The TSB does not mention where the pump is, just says "Scion: the high pressure fuel pump assembly makes a high pitch chirping or squeaking noise when idling or warming up engine. model 2013 fr-s. *pe

Read more: http://www.faqs.org/car/scion-fr-s/#ixzz2H1n4kdGw" but someone on the board said it was on the tank. Makes sense it is in the engine bay - as the sound comes from there.

The fix is still proper installation of the unit

Id like to see the Nav unit 'fixed', remove all the safety features that dont let you select destinations, make connections, or go into advanced settings while the car is moving. At the bare minimum remove it when there is someone in the passenger seat.

Fix the issue with multiple phones being added to blue tooth causing a delay to the head unit or make it easier to remove saved phones.

What do you guys mean by light condensation? Like waterish staying inside lights or wah?

there is two.. the one in the tank is low pressure to feed the high pressure pump (in engine bay that chirps) and the port injectors..

Yes, the launch cars had a problem with moisture getting inside of the tail lights and causing some fogging

I really hope they fix the nav/bluetooth issues across their whole model line, not just the BRZ. There have been known issues with bluetooth sound quality in the Forester, and the Impreza/Crosstrek have the same nav unit as the BRZ. I haven't had too many customer complaints but I'm sure it will be a problem at some point given the number of Foresters I've sold...

I'm planning on getting a late 2013 model, as the rumors that they'll be adding TGV's to the intake for 2014 has me worried. That and 13 is my (ironically) lucky number.

For 2014 there are a few changes I'd like to see done to the car. Approaching almost 16k miles on my BRZ I have spent quite a bit of time behind the wheel.

The light condensation isn't an issue for me so saying it should be fixed on the 2014 model is silly, even Bugatti Veyrons can get condensation in the lights which is a simple fix and not an "upgrade".

Hearing previous rumors that the car will have 230~ HP was exciting news and I am all for it. The car doesn't need 300HP in my humble opinion... Along with the upgrade in power I would expect Subaru to make sure the torque dip is taken care of. That is definitely something which should be fixed for 2014. A few odds and ends I'd like to see is Subaru remove some of the cheap plastic pieces on the interior and swap the parts out for the JDM ones like the kneepads on the center console and the speaker inclosure. When I drove my car cross country and back over the summer (Connecticut to California to Connecticut) the kneepad on the center console was actually painful to rest my knee against after awhile because it's hard plastic and provides ZERO padding. The JDM option for the power folding mirrors would also be nice. I am hoping they will use a nicer material on the fake "side vents". The plastic looks very cheap on the car even when blacked out. HID fog lights would be a nice addition as well.

A few other things I would expect to see (fingers crossed!) - exhaust upgraded...well, at least the tips. Come on Subaru the stock tips look like crap on the US models! I believe it will be a requirement for all cars MY2014+ to have reverse cameras in the US which is something I would really like to have on the BRZ.

Lastly what I really, really like to see done on the 2014 exterior is the same things done to the STI "spy shots" on the Nurburgring. The front splitter, side skirts, those small bits behind the rear wheels, and larger rims with wider tires!

If the 2014 has a majority of things I listed I will definitely plan on upgrading, but I will definitely own a BRZ regardless for a very long time!

I took delivery of my car on May 31st and have had no issues whatsoever with condensation in the lights. Sorry to hear of your troubles.

I did not have problems, I was just responding to someone else who asked what the condensation was. My car is all good :thumbup:

Do you seriously expect all of this out of a sub-$30k car? If so, your expectations are too high. All of those bits you mentioned will add to the cost. I agree that the interior pieces would be a nice touch, but HID foglights and power folding mirrors are pushing it. This car does not need larger rims, and a front splitter would make it risky driving up steep driveways or speed bumps.

- turbo model producing over 450 HP
- convertible model...you know for girls
- sedan version (like aston and porsche did)
- BR-E (electric obviously)
- BR-D (Diesel obviously)
- BRZ limited enhanced (more alcantara stuff)


If these are NOT produced then expect to see me on the forum with a nasty/ catastrophically pissy response to subaru and toyota...

Yea, I haven't had any issues with my lights. I do have the crickets though. >.<

I never said anything about wanting it for under $30K. If the 2014 is badged as a BRZ STI, included the stuff I posted, and cost $32K~ so be it, I would consider it. The JDM kneepads are very cheap parts and I think they should be included on the BRZ even if the car costs $200 more. The HID fog lights and power folding mirrors would be nice and I don't NEED them but I would like to see them on the 2014 model. I have driven plenty of cars much lower then the BRZ in areas you can't even imagine and never had issues with scraping. If you bottom out with a front splitter on the BRZ you are doing something wrong....

Terbo?

I would say its almost a guarantee that there will be a new wheel design. If Subaru does anything for new model years it's they mix up the wheel design.

They'll probably get rid of the bright silver accents for a darker silver/grey in the BRZ. They do that a lot with new cars. Make the interior ugly, then tone it down when the community complains.

Forget the 2014, just get the 2013. I'm selling mine :)

Trading in my BRZ for the new gen WRX STI when it hits the dealerships.

Unless the 2014 has close to 250 hp and less weight then it's gone. Any takers? hehehe

Now that the EVO is out of the picture (for now) that STI is gonna shine.

Unless they keep the powertrain it's had for the last......oh 10 years.

I'm debating picking up the next gen WRX but I'm definitely going to wait for the 2nd model year. The BRZ is the first car I have bought in its first model year and I don't plan to do it again.

Fuck a powertrain its gonna be hybridhttp://www.ft86club.com/forums/image.../thumbdown.gif

No. The Evo X is being sold through 2013 as a 2013 model. The next gen Evo will be a hybrid.

The new WRX platform is using a 2 liter turbo varient of the FA20. The turbocharger was rumoured to be a hybrid/electric system, but the car itself will not be a hybrid

To me what would make this car flat-out unstoppable would be a turbo that raised it to 300HP... At the current weight this car would be absolutely perfect IMHO... I think that upgrade alone would destroy most other RWD car sales...

I understand that this is not going to happen but it would be nice... At the current price I am happy with what we have in 2013...

BTW, I think that all of this chatter about EVO Xs and STis is "Apples and Potatoes" when talking about the BRZ/ FRS...

-Nate

I meant the STI, which HAS had the same powertrain for 10 years on this continent.

This is a great automobile. If someone wants a WRX or STI ,then they want a totally different type of car. Both have great attributes. But I am tired of all wheel drive autocrossing. Rear drive cars offer so much more fun for the driver. The STI is a great car, but does not have the same feel as a RWD car and nothing makes me smile more than keeping an RWD car in control on an autorcross course or a racetrack. I raced all wheel drive cars for years, but after my M Coupe and now this car, I can not go back to AWD for the sheer excitement of racing in a RWD car. This car has just enough power to do what is does best, and for those who want 400 + HP they should look at other cars rather than have the core of this car rendered to the likes of a Mustang or Camaro....or something similar.

Hmmm..now that I think about it, the last 2 cars I've bought have been first year models...First was the Subaru Impreza Outback Sport in 2008 and now the BRZ back in June.

I guess I'll wait for tech specs on the new WRX STI on official release before I go oogle at it so much that I can't resist. That's what happened with the current BRZ. Time will tell :D

Same here. I needed a commuter car and didn't want to get stuck with a Jetta or something similar while I waited for the 2014's.

I'm planning on getting the new WRX - if it's a vehicle I want. (design, spec, price). I've been driving Cobb tuned WRX for 10 years. Probably would wait till 2nd model year - that would give me time to pay off my BRZ first. Question would then be do I keep the bugeye as a beater, and have 3 Subies? Shoot - I can only drive so much!

I guess this thread is a weekly thing now

My ten pence worth on the 2014

fix for known issues
small trim or equipment changes
price rise
5 bhp/lb ft
personalisation options

AHA Starlink?
 

Wouldn't mind seeing them put this in the BRZ.

http://wot.motortrend.com/subaru-int...#axzz2HKq2nLwC


They announced it at CES for the 2014 Forester...why not have it in the 014 BRZ?

"On vehicles with navigation systems, Starlink will debut in the 2014 Forester and as a running change in 2013 Legacy and Outback models, while 2014 Impreza, BRZ, and XV Crosstrek models get the new feature this summer.

Resurrection
 

The most important question is "When?" !!

I'm guessing all the silver trim panels in the new model will be black and slightly fixed headunit. Other than that, I'm not expecting drastic changes for Premium/Limited models. Will they add STI version or Premium Sports edition by then? Not sure.