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Touge Factory 12-19-2012 03:15 PM

TF Brake Duct Cooling Kit
 
Here is a quick sample of the prototype brake kit that's currently in development.


No clearance issues at full lock with suspension loaded.
http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server28...07.600.400.jpg

You can see (....kinda) the 6061-T6 aluminum backing plate inside the brake rotor. forces cool air to pass through the rotor vents.
http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server28...08.600.400.jpg

From the front view with wheels straight. You can see where we had to trim some of the fender lining for the hose to pass through.
http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server28...09.600.400.jpg

view from under the car. See the NACA Duct.
http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server28...10.600.400.jpg

We could barely notice the NACA duct was even there....
http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server28...12.600.400.jpg

:thumbup:
Hope you enjoyed....

6-Shift 12-19-2012 03:44 PM

Why not use the fog light areas? They seem perfect for something like this!

cobrabyte 12-19-2012 04:00 PM

Finally... a back-plate. Keep us posted!

spitz 12-19-2012 04:08 PM

Hope there will be some type of compatibility with the BRZ bumpers!

ichitaka05 12-19-2012 05:18 PM

Interesting setup. Please keep updating for more info!

Touge Factory 12-19-2012 06:10 PM

Quote:

Why not use the fog light areas? They seem perfect for something like this!
1. It would increase the cost of the kit.
2. Location of our current NACA duct will have more direct air flow due to the shape of the bumper. Because the bumper is slanted and the opening size would be limited in the fog light hole, you wouldn't have the same air flow as the current design.
3. By creating more openings on the front of the bumper - you create more aerodynamic drag.
4. BRZ guys can use this kit too.

Quote:

Finally... a back-plate. Keep us posted!
Yes, without a back-plate the cool air would just escape and never reach the rotors.

Quote:

Hope there will be some type of compatibility with the BRZ bumpers!
Yup, we want to make this kit simple and functional for both cars, without having to purchase model specific kits.

fastfrs 01-11-2013 11:46 PM

any more info on the dust sheild/backin plate of this kit?

Oh Damn Andrew 01-12-2013 03:12 AM

Definitely interested in this! ETA on production and costs?

Touge Factory 01-14-2013 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oh Damn Andrew (Post 660432)
Definitely interested in this! ETA on production and costs?

The availability should be early february.
Retail price on this complete kit is: $399.00.

post_break 01-14-2013 04:47 PM

I want to see pictures of the back plate and drivers side. How are you routing it around the washer fluid tank?

Touge Factory 01-14-2013 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by post_break (Post 664815)
I want to see pictures of the back plate and drivers side. How are you routing it around the washer fluid tank?

Here is the prototype back plate.
http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server28....1280.1280.jpg

Once everything is in place - we will have more detailed pics of the kit installed.

ultra 01-14-2013 05:00 PM

I like.

Seems properly engineered amd nicely packaged, looking forward to hearing how effective it is on the track at reducing temps.

:w00t:

balance 01-15-2013 12:15 AM

Nice Job, TF! I also like where this project is heading!

@TF,

Do you have any ideas as to whether this kit, once fully developed, will be compatible with JDM G & RC models that come with smaller front brake set-ups?

AFAIK, the front pads are interchangeable between the higher-spec (i.e., FR-S/BRZ) and lower spec cars while the rotor sizes are different.

Thanks in advance.

RYU 01-15-2013 12:21 AM

I love that backing plate! It's so key! This should help me get more life out of my brakes and maybe even put off the expense of a BBK for a while longer.

I don't like your front intake solution though (no offense). I hope you can sell the kit w/o that piece because I want to use something like these guys have.
http://www.bulletproofautomotive.com/items/arrows4t.jpg

seven 01-15-2013 12:36 AM

I like the foglight idea, even if the user has to cut the fogs with a template... Mainly because some people plan to go F/I and need space for an intercooler ;)

I'd even consider buying these and just cutting the foglight housings myself but a template would be nice.

fastfrs 01-15-2013 12:37 AM

would you guys sell the backing plate only?

Touge Factory 01-15-2013 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastfrs (Post 665799)
would you guys sell the backing plate only?

Yes we can.

000 Racing 01-17-2013 07:41 PM

and the backing plate would cost $$ ? Any indication would be good as I have the first race coming up in March and it has some big brake points .. one from about 260kph down to 80.. will it work with the Essex Sprint kit?

Thanks for the good work.

Touge Factory 01-18-2013 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 000 Racing (Post 672201)
and the backing plate would cost $$ ? Any indication would be good as I have the first race coming up in March and it has some big brake points .. one from about 260kph down to 80.. will it work with the Essex Sprint kit?

Thanks for the good work.

I believe the Essex AP racing kit uses a larger rotor, so our backing plate would have a large gap. the air inlet on the backing plate would be larger also since there would be more space on the larger rotor.

Just for the backing plate for the OEM rotors - we're estimating $275 for the pair.

Ricepuddin 01-24-2013 08:56 PM

I noticed a lot of break fade last hill run, so I'll be looking in to this when it comes out. How bad is the install?

Touge Factory 01-25-2013 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricepuddin (Post 687550)
I noticed a lot of break fade last hill run, so I'll be looking in to this when it comes out. How bad is the install?

It's not too bad.
Remove wheel
Remove Caliper + Rotor
Remove wheel speed sensor
Remove hub: 4 bolts. Dust shield comes off at this point
Install backing plate
Install wheel speed sensor
Install Rotor + Caliper
Trim the inner fender lining slightly to allow room for hose to pass through.
Unbolt the windshield washer tank to route hose past it.
No special tools required other then your standard wrenches / sockets and a cutter of some sort.

Ricepuddin 01-25-2013 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touge Factory (Post 688974)
It's not too bad.
Remove wheel
Remove Caliper + Rotor
Remove wheel speed sensor
Remove hub: 4 bolts. Dust shield comes off at this point
Install backing plate
Install wheel speed sensor
Install Rotor + Caliper
Trim the inner fender lining slightly to allow room for hose to pass through.
Unbolt the windshield washer tank to route hose past it.
No special tools required other then your standard wrenches / sockets and a cutter of some sort.

So this would be a good time to change my pads and lines. Thank you

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

Touge Factory 01-25-2013 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricepuddin (Post 689212)
So this would be a good time to change my pads and lines. Thank you

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

Yes most definitely!
If you're gonna do all of that make sure you have DOT 4 Brake fluid...

Ricepuddin 01-25-2013 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touge Factory (Post 689588)
Yes most definitely!
If you're gonna do all of that make sure you have DOT 4 Brake fluid...

Hp+ pads, and stop tech lines for the front along with a couple bottles of RBF 600 are sitting in a closet waiting to go on/in

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Calum 01-25-2013 08:24 PM

does the washer bottle get put back?

Touge Factory 01-28-2013 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calum (Post 689884)
does the washer bottle get put back?

Oh yes.
It's just very difficult to feed the hose with the washer fluid tank there.
You just have to unbolt it to route the hose, and bolt it back up.

Our backing plates should be arriving any day now.

Squishy 01-28-2013 10:19 PM

A nice option instead of the fog light piece for BRZ limited owners would be an adapter piece to screw in place (since we can unscrew the foglights themselves) to mount the ducting to, might be dandy.

Or this already an option?

GTFrank 02-06-2013 11:50 AM

Let me know when this is available. Gtfrank
 
Please contact me when this is available. Gt frank.

Touge Factory 02-06-2013 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTFrank (Post 715930)
Please contact me when this is available. Gt frank.

Will do!

Touge Factory 02-07-2013 05:57 PM

For those that wanted the OEM fog light location ducts.... we will be offering our kit with the APR CF ducts.
Full kit will incorporate the proper parts to make it a bolt-on affair using these.

FR-S
http://aprperformance.com/images/products/CF-505650.jpg

BRZ
http://aprperformance.com/images/products/CF-812050.jpg

sw20kosh 02-12-2013 09:33 PM

Just awesome! any update?

RYU 02-12-2013 11:32 PM

@Touge Factory - Do you know if the OEM DRLs will still work with these?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Touge Factory (Post 719653)
For those that wanted the OEM fog light location ducts.... we will be offering our kit with the APR CF ducts.
Full kit will incorporate the proper parts to make it a bolt-on affair using these.

BRZ
http://aprperformance.com/images/products/CF-812050.jpg


Touge Factory 02-14-2013 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sw20kosh (Post 731094)
Just awesome! any update?

@sw20kosh - We are finishing up the first kit now.

The APR ducts won't be available until end of March / Early April.

ATL BRZ 02-19-2013 06:04 PM

Bump! I'm excited for this kit to be released!


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