A little bit disappointed in these three days
 

The production GT86 doesn't look as good as the cars in photos or in auto shows. I am actually a little bit turned off when I see the front of the car.
It just doesn't look that sharp to me.
If the base model price is over $25K which is some significant money for me to spend, I will wait several years more and see the feedback from actual owners.

A great chance for price > $25K
Not so good looking as expected(similar to gensis to me)
Limited quantity(1000?)

Hope some good news will be out 2 days later.

I sort of had the opposite reaction. I was losing interest in the car when the stories about the mule test drives started to leak out, it sounded like it wasn't going to have the great handling they promised and it looked pretty awful in the camo. If you look at other concept cars and how they ended up looking as production cars, I would say this one stayed a lot closer than most (comparing to the second concept, not the original or frs).

Since the training manual started leaking out I'm excited about the car again. I think it looks great and from all the videos of the Gazoo event it looks awesome to drive as well. They have checked all the boxes for me so far, only thing I'm waiting to hear now is price.

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I think that this car will be mind blowing to actually see in person. The first time I laid eyes on the orange production model, I was like :barf:. and I hate that little spoiler.


But wow the other colors make the car look amazing. Minus the little spoiler. Then I saw the blue one with the body kit. Blew me away. Give the car some time to grow on you. :happy0180:

I just want to see the 86 in person and next to a BRZ for a good purchase decision. Only about a day left, Im sure alot of hopes and doubts will be built when TMS happens.

i am happy with the overall shape but the ride height is killing me.

but that's an easy fix.

I think it looks good and have the feeling it will look even better in person. Can't wait to see it with a nice set of wheels and dropped a little.

As far as I can remember, the concepts rarely looked like the production model, except for rare cases.

I'm actually glad none of them looked like the MK2, MK3 Five Axis and STI concept. Those look too "overdone" and riced out to me.

I'm a little bummed out that it took a good step away from how the MKI looked both in the exterior and interior. Overall, I'm glad to see Toyota back in the mix of making fun to drive cars again.

Im sort of with you on this one brother.

Something about the fat rounded rear 1/4 panels im not liking. But ill wait too see it in person then judge for myself.

As for the rest of the car im liking it very much.

A little sour on the no FI but i dig NA just as much.

Personally the high CR means to me with cams/inlet and exhaust mods this puppy will scream to 250-270hp with ease.

First post! But I too think the same about the front end. I wish they would have stuck with the mark I version. I loved the front fenders on it, how they brought the wheel arches out to meet the tire as opposed to what we have now. High arched front fenders that are completely flat on the outside edge.

Despite all that though I am still very much interested in the car, but like many others, 24k would be about as much as I could afford. Only things I want out of it as far as amenities is ac and cloth seats, leather kind of sucks down here in the heat!

Who wouldn't love this too

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...-Side-View.jpg

I know I'm in the minority, but I actually prefer the gt86 over the MKI concept overall as a car. I prefer the rear of the concept, but if I had to choose one or the other, I think I'd go with the gt86.

BRZ press release with the official image was just released, Honestly I was hoping for more differences. Alittle dissapointed but not too much here is the two in one single post

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...0409/038_o.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...8TokyoBRZ1.jpg

Wish we could get pics of the BRZ like the 86 with the vids running around on a track or something

I prefer the GT86 over the MK1. MK1 is less agressive. I would only take the tail lights off the MK1.

The hood of that concept was too low which is why the second concept and gt86 had the fenders raised. I would like to shoot whichever politician came up with that rule.

The biggest disappointment for me other than that is the brake lights, but they look fine I think. Overall I think it is a great looking car. If they could sell the mk1 concept just like it is I would rather buy that but I knew from the moment I saw it that the production version wouldn't look anything like it.

Sweet, so I'm not the only one. I'm amazed at just how damn near identical these cars look. I mean, I know all along we have been hearing just front a rear facias changed, but I was assuming they would be like the mid 90's talon/eclipse, where it was fairly obvious to the average car person which was which. These will be a lot harder to tell apart.

Dont get me wrong, the GT looks great from most angles but there is a certain angle where the fenders look awful, I love it from head on and from the rear straight on, and personally I don't "HATE" the rear tail lights.

I feel like BRZ is getting no love, and the 86 took all the attention ;(

Im not into too much cosmetic like the FRS concept, only thing i liked on that concept was how its sitting with wide tires hope i can fit 255 on the production. Everything els 7,500rpm, low CoG, 2600 lbs and lower seating position all good with me. The first concept rarely makes it all in production its only show case what they have in mind for the FT86 mk1 it showed that they are thinking a short wheel base 2+2, front engine rwd chassis.

I don't think there is any car that looks great from any angle, it is too easy to take a photo of car that makes it looks weird. I've never seen a car that looked worse in person than it did in photos.

I'm disappointed too...we'll see when they announce pricing on weds, i'm hoping we'll be pleasantly surprised otherwise the only people buying this thing will be hardcore toyota buffs

Toyota already stated that pricing will NOT be announced on wednesday. I doubt Subaru will considering that statement.

I'm hoping for pricing by NAIAS.

hehe...hardcores

Nissan Juke, Aztec, etc

How can someone actually prefer the chunky front of the production model with the bloated front fenders over the original concept? I'd imagine that most people would prefer their sports cars to be sleek.

7500rpm redline is meaningless when power drops off after 6500rpm.

The good news is the valvetrain is already set up to handle high RPMs, so with tunes/cams/header/intake/exhaust you will maximize your gains because less restriction means torque curve shifts up.

Max power is at 7.000 RPM.

FT-86 MKI is my favorite till now. But I knew it was a concept far from production. Anyway, there'll be bodykits available.

It's a shame that this engine didn't get Subaru's AVCS that's on the actual FB20, or even Toyota's VVTi since they designed the head. It might have raised costs a bit but they probably could have used it to keep the power climbing up until the fuel cut, or at least flattened the curve a bit.

All I can hope for is that the price can stay true to what's lacking about this car. The cars seem cheaper looking every time I look at them :(. Hopefully they'll end up being cheap $ wise.

Then this will all make sense.

God I miss the Mk1. Still the best looking to date.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....1303323676.jpg
http://homeautodesign.com/wp-content...-Concept-3.jpg

I miss the agressive body lines on the FR-S concept. I feel like the body is so watered down looking, and the headlights and tailights are pretty awful. The production version looks okay like this:

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagam...3/AY0F2805.jpg

But still, the body lines just aren't as meaningful as the FR-S concept was in my opinion. :(

The above production model looks pretty damn good imo, reminds me of late 80s/early 90s sports cars with their big wings, small cockpits, and aggressively wide bodies.

Like most production cars, the ride height has greatly increased when compared to the concept version. I'm sure it's all in the name of practicality. :(

I love the production model, except for that damn side marker at the end of the front bumper where it meets the fender! Its out of place and ruins the flow of the wheel well.

I've always thought the Scion FR-S concept was overwrought and tacky looking.

The MKI concept to be honest hasn't aged well. And I like the 2000GT-inspired C-pillar on the production version a lot more.

The only part that's really a downturn on the GT 86 are those tacky tail lights. The MKI looked a lot cleaner and more aggressive.

The big black plastic turd in the middle of the nose is a giant turn off. Why so many car manufacturers do this now is beyond me.

I actually like the sidemarker, but different strokes for different folks.

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Ugliest car ever mass produced:

Nissan Cube
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/data:...yA2RtrqAP/2Q==
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/data:...yA2RtrqAP/2Q==

To each of his own. I think Cube and Juke have their unique "cool" factors. Aztek, in the other hand, looks awfully ugly from any angle.

What do you mean MKI has not aged well? For many on here, it is still the best looking version (except for the zipp dash).

Agreed, Aztek is the ugliest car ever made.