TODA lightweight pulley kit
 

I noticed TODA came out with a pulley kit for our FRS/BRZ. Out of my price range but it's great to know TODA is tinkering with our FRS/BRZ.

http://www.toda-racing.co.jp/en/prod...lley-fa20.html

http://www.toda-racing.co.jp/en/prod...ley-fa20-1.jpg

Yeah the pricing I saw on it was around $700 for the kit, but it looks nice.

Having a TODA sticker in the roll call would be pretty sweet

People still put roll car stickers on their cars?

Man conversions suck now a days... over $600 for a (toda) pulley kit; outch.

I love seeing those stickers, go's to show me how someone can waste sooo much money on a name..
and that they are a knob and should stick clear of them.

Wow. So if Hyundai makes a similar car that was the same price or cheaper and made more power, would that make us "knobs?"

No.

It's called freedom of CHOICE. You exercise that everyday of your life, so why can't others do the same without you labeling them?

That comment makes you sound like a knob. Judging people off the things they buy and what brands they put on their cars?

Nice, little pricey, but I like it.

Did i say cheaper with more power?

Use your brain, Toda make 3 pullys and charge $650-700
a Perrin pulley is around $100 (times that by 3, add in a $50 belt = $350)

are you calling Perrin a budget brand that make things cheap?



You can go buy a HKS exhaust, or you can go buy a Nameless one for quite a lot less, produces the same, maybe more power. is Nameless a cheap brand?


What i am saying is, just cause it's "JDM" doesn't make it great, probably is made in China.. You are paying a premium for something cause people put stickers on their car advertising for these companys.

You do have the choice, go buy your big name JDM brands that charge a premium for the same product you can buy elsewhere.

...wat?

everyone and their mothers either is or will be.

we own one of, if not THE hottest car on the market right now. :)

Of course you are paying a little more for both "JDM" and the TODA name but they are also selling a system of pulleys as opposed to just a single crank pulley. It seems like they have done a bit of research into how one pulley might affect the others, hence the new belt. Or maybe not.

Either way, buy it or don't buy it, but it's silly to call someone stupid and/or to avoid them entirely based on them spending more money than you could or wanted to spend on a part.

If you look at my Post history I'm the first ONE to call Vendors out for being too pricey..

Let me say this... From what I've seen, TODA has the BEST looking pulley as far as clean machining and exellent looking finish. I would expect a single TODA pulley to be 50% more then Perrin given that TODA is JDM, and it looks like a higher quality. So 110 for the Perrin pully.. 155, would be acceptable for the TODA..

So 155x3= $465 so.. YES its a bit priceier then I would buy... but we haven't even talked about what it offers.. Is it offering a much better feel? If no... then the product is FAIL.. and nobody should buy it.. well only those "knobs" you were talking about..

However if I can tell a noticable difference in this VS a Perrin pulley.. I would say its worth it..

I just think it would LOOK really nice on a Firestorm Red.. which i happen to have..

But seriously... EVERY one of those pulleys should be replaced with those looking pulleys... and that would be Hot Sauce..

Whos saying everything JDM is great? And FYI a lot of the big names like HKS don't outsource to China. Not saying all JDM shops don't but stateside shops are in the same boat.

Some people like me prefer the big name brands like Toda because they are known to make high quality stuff, just like I'm willing to spend a premium on Perrin products over some eBay junk. High quality stuff from Japan comes at a premium, especially since the dollar to yen is terrible right now.

$700 is too much bloody money for three pulleys and a belt. I don't care if they're machined by hand by Yoshihiko Noda the Prime Minister of Japan, they do the same job as a $250 pulley kit made in the U.S. by a reputable manufacturer. Toda makes a great product no doubt but they are insanely overpriced to get here in the U.S., due in no small part to the exchange rate. The extra $450 you spend is just so you can put a Toda sticker on your car.

Link to $250 kit? I've never seen one for this car.

I don't think it's so much the parts that annoy him, but that people feel the need to put a "roll call" of stickers on their nonsponsored cars.

Does their crank pulley act as a harmonic damper?

It was just an example based on what the same parts cost for the Toyota 4A-G from Techno Toy Tuning. Give 'em a call - maybe they'll get on some R&D for the FA20!

HOLY SHIT TODA

haven't heard that name being thrown around in awhile.

cant wait for a single exit TODA exhaust... loved the exh/header setup i had on my 8th gen civic.. most intense welds i had ever seen. beautiful work these guys do.

You want a nice single exhaust .. get the T1R 70R. It's fantastic.

Not a fan of T1R or AJracing in general.. would never again spend money on a T1R product. Probably the worst customer service I have ever dealt with.. worse than AT&T.. and that says a lot.

haha... AT&T. I sell their competitor's products and their customer service makes my job easy. it seems that lightweight pulleys (aside from the crank) all around would be pretty good if someone domestic could pump them out for a decent price

You're gonna have to be more specific. I have dealt with these guys as both a customer and a retailer of their product.. and I have nothing but praise for them.

You're also sabotaging yourself if you turn down an awesome product because you're butt-hurt over something. :brokenheart:

i dealt with them for products on my 8th gen. specifically coilovers. never resolved my issue, i got so fed up after months of emails and no action that i just binned them.

if you are a retailer, i would expect youd be worried about calling a person who could be a potential customer "butt-hurt".
im not butt-hurt. i just would never support that company due to product and service.
...not to mention AJracing produced and sold fake products under the J's Racing name.
Just bad business. Not a fan.:thumbsup:

um, real professional

Does the OEM one?

yes

Actually I've heard no. That it is not dampened

I have rollcall on the Silvia's back window. JUN and TEIN and Whiteline and a bunch of other lame shit. It's just there for fun. I love seeing rollcall done classy as part of the JDM look-- White vinyl on a white pearl 86 would look nice.

i'd stay away from whoever youre hearing things from

Guys... this is an easy fix. Take a an aftermarket pulley to a machine shop and have them examine them and give you the results on how balance is it.

Just wanted to share some more light on the TODA lightweight pulley kit. I have it installed the last 3 years without any issues, but we had all these endless discussions if a lightweight crank pulley or in general a lightweight kit can provide any "gains" at all just by the weight advantage. I agree that the gains just by the weight difference are almost zero. TODA was mentioning on their site that the alternator pulley was under-driven, but still the pulley's size difference wasn't much and the overall gains should be small. So, it looks that either TODA was cheating or they were mentioning half of the truth. The complete truth is that the entire kit is under-driven (crank, alternator, water pump). Check the difference of the crank pulley size and the alternator pulley size.


Crank pulley:

http://i66.tinypic.com/117epaa.jpg


Alternator pulley:

http://i68.tinypic.com/i72y6f.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/out6c3.jpg


The crank pulley size difference under-drives the complete system and the alternator pulley size difference under-drives a bit more the alternator. Additionally, the better weight distribution of the crank pulley (OEM has most of the weight on the outside part) and the smaller diameter gives a bit better rotational inertia. It should not be massive, but I believe it helps a bit too.

All numbers count, WEIGHT REDUCTION

NECRO!!!!!!!!!!!!

:popcorn:

Just buy fensport under driven water/alt pulley for 1/3rd the price. Use the extra money on a fluidampr or ati super damper crank pulley, or keep oem.