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white devil 09-26-2012 11:08 PM

snorkel removal?
 
Has anyone taken off there intake snorkel when you got an aftermarket intake?

Burn 09-26-2012 11:19 PM

Yup, I did after I installed my airaid intake.. was kinda troublesome to take out the snorkel without taking out the front bumper down completely .. u can refer to this DIY post on how to take it out

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15376

brichard0625 10-02-2012 07:39 AM

i just took mine out but i dont have an aftermarket intake but i will be building my own and will probably be done by fri. I will say that the stock snorkel is way too small and not sure how the car even breaths better with it on. It was a pain in the ass to remove but i took of the rubber piece holding the bumper and pulled the bumper back just enough to unscrew the snorkel. I then removed the front park of the intake box so i can have a better grab at the snorkel. U have to have the snorkel at a certain angle and u have to use a little force to really get out tho. It was a pain in the a$$ without removing the bumper

StarsGarrador 10-02-2012 08:09 AM

Without an aftermarket intake you lose power when you remove the snorkel and leave stock. I'm on my phone now so I can't post the link but just search it. I took it out once i installed my Airaid intake, it was obnoxiously hard to remove but nothing like these damn side markers.

brichard0625 10-02-2012 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarsGarrador (Post 471664)
Without an aftermarket intake you lose power when you remove the snorkel and leave stock. I'm on my phone now so I can't post the link but just search it. I took it out once i installed my Airaid intake, it was obnoxiously hard to remove but nothing like these damn side markers.

im building an intake and im doing a custom snorkel to the stock box.i dont think its been proving to lose power but with some educated guesses we believe it will suck in hot air with the stock box thus causing less hp and tq

StarsGarrador 10-02-2012 09:15 AM

I'll find the link to the dyno results when I get off work or if someone else can post that'd be awesome haha. Till then it looks like I'm blowing smoke..

brichard0625 10-02-2012 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarsGarrador (Post 471732)
I'll find the link to the dyno results when I get off work or if someone else can post that'd be awesome haha. Till then it looks like I'm blowing smoke..

Just saw it and going to do some quick testing to see if it indeed sucks in hot air...just did a 15min run and logged my highest intake temp and lowest intake temp...going to let the car cool down and ill repeat the same process later and see what results we get. Either way i will be making my own snorkel that i hope benefits the intake and doesnt heat soak it...im going to keep the stock air box but im going to make the snorkel bigger. once im done ill post pics of the new intake

Style 10-02-2012 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brichard0625 (Post 471771)
Just saw it and going to do some quick testing to see if it indeed sucks in hot air...just did a 15min run and logged my highest intake temp and lowest intake temp...going to let the car cool down and ill repeat the same process later and see what results we get. Either way i will be making my own snorkel that i hope benefits the intake and doesnt heat soak it...im going to keep the stock air box but im going to make the snorkel bigger. once im done ill post pics of the new intake

Pls, I would like to know this as well, because I removed mine and am also in the process of building a DIY intake also.

2forme 10-02-2012 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brichard0625 (Post 471771)
Just saw it and going to do some quick testing to see if it indeed sucks in hot air...just did a 15min run and logged my highest intake temp and lowest intake temp...going to let the car cool down and ill repeat the same process later and see what results we get. Either way i will be making my own snorkel that i hope benefits the intake and doesnt heat soak it...im going to keep the stock air box but im going to make the snorkel bigger. once im done ill post pics of the new intake

I've done this, the stock air box heats up quickly. Even the AIRAID sucks in some warm air, but not as much as a snorkel-less stock box.

brichard0625 10-02-2012 03:54 PM

Ok so earlier on in the day i logged some data with the snorkel on and off..i drove around my block, hopped on the highway and did a full speed run and got off next exit and pulled up in front of my building. put the snorkel back on let the car cool down for about 30 mins and repeated the same run. Not sure why the pics on my phone keep coming up corrupted when i upload to pc but ill find a way to post them up. Without the snorkel my cars highest temp was 123.8 and lowest was 78.8 with the snorkel on my highest temp was 123.2 and lowest was 89.6..i do have an hks intake filter but it seems like without the snorkel it will breath better during wide open throttle but at idle it will get hotter..for now i have the snorkel off cuz its a b**** to take off and put back on

Style 10-03-2012 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brichard0625 (Post 472445)
Ok so earlier on in the day i logged some data with the snorkel on and off..i drove around my block, hopped on the highway and did a full speed run and got off next exit and pulled up in front of my building. put the snorkel back on let the car cool down for about 30 mins and repeated the same run. Not sure why the pics on my phone keep coming up corrupted when i upload to pc but ill find a way to post them up. Without the snorkel my cars highest temp was 123.8 and lowest was 78.8 with the snorkel on my highest temp was 123.2 and lowest was 89.6..i do have an hks intake filter but it seems like without the snorkel it will breath better during wide open throttle but at idle it will get hotter..for now i have the snorkel off cuz its a b**** to take off and put back on

So you just have the drop in air filter correct?

VSGTS14 10-03-2012 04:46 PM

the fix is to buy an intake that places the filter away from the motor. you're going to want some kind of fresh air ducting. otherwise, all that warm air from the motor is not helping.

JPxM0Dz 10-03-2012 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarsGarrador (Post 471664)
Without an aftermarket intake you lose power when you remove the snorkel and leave stock. I'm on my phone now so I can't post the link but just search it. I took it out once i installed my Airaid intake, it was obnoxiously hard to remove but nothing like these damn side markers.

I hear you on the side markers. Did you even figure out a better way of removal than manuals directions ?

brichard0625 10-03-2012 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Style (Post 474557)
So you just have the drop in air filter correct?

yessir...just a drop in...so i decided to do a little custom thing to the snorkel and it read a low of 75.2 today and a high of 123.2. Yesterdays weather was 64 with 88 humidity and today was 71 with 86humidity. So it was little hotter out today and i still managed to keep the intake even cooler now. Also with normal driving yesterday it read 88.2 at a constant speed of 60mph and today it read 80.6 at a constant speed of 60. Im not a expert with any of this stuff but i felt like doing my own little project and just using common sense and trying to make sure im not making the intake worse by taking in more hot air and so far im doing okay lol. i took some maf readings today and at idle my car read 3.9 and wot was 148.7g/s. If possible can anybody that has the torque app and stock air box take a reading for me.. Take a reading at idle and then if u can do a wot run in 3rd gear and tell me what your readings are

brichard0625 10-03-2012 06:31 PM

actually i need someone to do a maf reading on an aftermarket intake as well if they can...i appreciate it guys

Burn 10-03-2012 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brichard0625 (Post 471681)
im building an intake and im doing a custom snorkel to the stock box.i dont think its been proving to lose power but with some educated guesses we believe it will suck in hot air with the stock box thus causing less hp and tq

You can consider cutting a hole on the front bumper and make an air duct straight to your intake .. but this involves "sacrificing" your front bumper though.. I was thinking about this when I removed the snorkel off and observed that there's some distance between my airaid's duct to the front bumper

brichard0625 10-03-2012 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burn (Post 474789)
You can consider cutting a hole on the front bumper and make an air duct straight to your intake .. but this involves "sacrificing" your front bumper though.. I was thinking about this when I removed the snorkel off and observed that there's some distance between my airaid's duct to the front bumper

Im sure that wud be a great idea but im not good with stuff like that lol...

TyperRspec789 10-03-2012 08:16 PM

Why don't you guys just pull a Ken Gushi and drive w/o a front bumper?

StarsGarrador 10-04-2012 02:02 AM

Nah I broke two clips :/ not even worried about it. Want the clear markers as soon as these damn bills give me a break haha

brichard0625 10-04-2012 12:09 PM

Just got my intake piping.. wasnt sure what type of aluminum to go with but i went with 6061-T grade. Tomorrow ill get the pipes cut and start working on the build hoping to be done by next week.

brichard0625 10-04-2012 02:41 PM

So i decided to put the stock filter back in and while its 2.0gs lower than the hks filter at wot for some reason it idles way better with the stock filter and it feels more responsive..weird! wot on the hks i got 148.7 wot on stock is 146.8. this is with the snorkel cut

*KID* 10-07-2012 03:17 PM

I removed my snorkel to let the injen intake breath a lil better, runs a lil more aggressive than with it on, or maybe its in my mind but does feel a bit better, on hot days it drags but right now with it being 60 some degrees outside it feels WAYY better.

I had a Naca airduct on my integra, maybe ill do an experiment with a hole on the bumper and get the thing dyno tuned

something like this
http://www.evo-r.net/product/CAI/tube/index.htm

brichard0625 10-07-2012 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by *KID* (Post 481921)
I removed my snorkel to let the injen intake breath a lil better, runs a lil more aggressive than with it on, or maybe its in my mind but does feel a bit better, on hot days it drags but right now with it being 60 some degrees outside it feels WAYY better.

I had a Naca airduct on my integra, maybe ill do an experiment with a hole on the bumper and get the thing dyno tuned

something like this
http://www.evo-r.net/product/CAI/tube/index.htm

thanx for the site ive be trying to research other snorkel options for better breathing...once i find a good substitute i will post for you guys.

brichard0625 10-09-2012 01:55 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=2162

Intake stuff is here going to start the painted today and im going to use a flex pipe for now as a fresh air scoop until i think of something clever. I think it looks pretty freaking good...the paint in the pic looks brown but its my sucky phone camera but its sunblaze orange. What do u guys think. The pipe on the side was my prototype piping so just showing you the color of the paint


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