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sure74 09-11-2012 01:18 PM

Rydeen Duo on BRZ Limited
 
I mounted a Rydeen Duo (ZH07-150B) in the stock rear view camera location on a BRZ Limited.

The camera
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=1863

Removed the trunk fascia
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=1864

If you look close there is an outline where the stock camera would go
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=1865

I used the supplied double stick tape as a template
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=1866

Hole drilled, camera mounted
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=1868

From the underside
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=1867

Sharing the trunk release grommet
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=1869

Getting it back together
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=1870

Final product
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=1872

Once the wire is through the trunk release grommet it is pretty simple to
follow those wires through the trunk lid and in to the cargo area via the wire
boot. That was all the time I had plus I was still waiting for my RCA w\pins
from SVXdc which came the next day.

RCA w\pins from SVXdc
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=1871

So the hard part is done. I will run the wires, get power and plug in the RCA
as soon as I get a chance.

Definitely happy with the look. This camera seems to be built very well. It is
pretty heavy for such a small device. First time I closed the trunk I thought
about where the quality of this camera will be worth the extra few bucks.

Enjoy

Foobar 09-11-2012 01:26 PM

Looks awesome - that is definitely the way to go for a stock looking camera install. I must be blind though, I don't see the outline on the fascia where the OEM camera would've gone...:iono:

michaelahess 09-11-2012 02:15 PM

Pics of the camera picture quality? For that kind of money it should be pristine I'd hope...

djdnz 09-11-2012 02:40 PM

Looks really good, how much was the total investment so far?

Foobar 09-11-2012 03:06 PM

I've seen the Duo sell for around $140.

As far as cost = picture quality, for these cameras, picture quality is actually the least part of the cost. Even a $12 camera produces a great picture on our head unit. Most of the cost goes into the size and quality of the housing. A $12 camera is going to end up with moisture in it and will fail quickly.

I have both a $12 camera and a $115 camera. Can't tell the difference between the video quality, but one's plastic, big, and had moisture fogging up the lens after being exposed to the elements. The other's metal, slim, and has endured rainstorms and my pressure washer without a problem.

sure74 09-11-2012 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foobar (Post 433946)
Looks awesome - that is definitely the way to go for a stock looking camera install. I must be blind though, I don't see the outline on the fascia where the OEM camera would've gone...:iono:

Thanks.
Hard to see in the picture but they are there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelahess (Post 434071)
Pics of the camera picture quality? For that kind of money it should be pristine I'd hope...

Like I mentioned, it isn't hooked up yet. I tested it on my kitchen TV to be sure it works and that the lines were deleted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by djdnz (Post 434128)
Looks really good, how much was the total investment so far?

Thanks.
139.00 for the camera via eBay
21.80 for the RCA w\pins from SVXdc (also got the ground wire)
160.80 total

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foobar (Post 434181)
As far as cost = picture quality, for these cameras, picture quality is actually the least part of the cost. Even a $12 camera produces a great picture on our head unit. Most of the cost goes into the size and quality of the housing. A $12 camera is going to end up with moisture in it and will fail quickly.

Agreed. I feel like it was worth the money just based on how it looks. As long as I don't run over any toys when backing out of the garage and I never have to swap it out I will be happy.

mrha 09-11-2012 06:17 PM

You know what I want? A front bumper view camera so I dont run over any parking curbs.

Foobar 09-11-2012 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrha (Post 434509)
You know what I want? A front bumper view camera so I dont run over any parking curbs.

I have a Curb-Alert for that. It's a proximity sensor with an audible alert.

GregV 09-11-2012 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrha (Post 434509)
You know what I want? A front bumper view camera so I dont run over any parking curbs.

After driving a jeep for 10 years I can say it only took me once to learn the difference :bellyroll:

xcelir8brz 09-11-2012 09:54 PM

You did exactly what I was planning on doing with my BOYO that I'm waiting to receive from Amazon. Looks great!

BRZY 09-14-2012 04:30 AM

subbed for final results!

sure74 09-14-2012 06:08 PM

Like I had mentioned, the hard part was done. Ran the power to the factory amp (+12V Accessory)
and grounded it on one of the amp bolts. Ran the video wire up the drivers side of the car
(nice and neat) and under the dash to the back of the stereo. The Rydeen came with plenty of
cable to reach. Plugged the pins on the RCA from SVXdc in to the 16 pin harness as per SVXdc's
instructions and connected the camera.

Used the lines to back in to a spot, car was dead center in the spot. No need to adjust the lines
(close enough) since I put the camera where the head unit was expecting it.

First green line, about 7' from the curb
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=1916

Yellow line, about 4' from the curb
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=1917

Red line, about 3' from the curb
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=1918

All in all this was not a difficult installation. Just be careful not to scratch anything when removing
/re-installing the trunk fascia and be careful when you have the stereo haning out of the dash
that it doesn't scratch the clock area and you should be good.

xcelir8brz 09-15-2012 01:57 AM

Here is my Boyo installed (copy of your installation for the most part):

https://xcelir8brz.squarespace.com/m...b?format=1000w

https://xcelir8brz.squarespace.com/m...s?format=1000w

mikeg7827 09-15-2012 02:44 PM

nice

johnb831 09-15-2012 04:26 PM

looks very nice and clean!

zoomzoomers 09-15-2012 04:31 PM

Awesome!

xcelir8brz 09-15-2012 11:08 PM

The Boyo was $85.00 from Amazon. I believe it was the 200C model. It's made to go into a license plate hole. But, you cut the blue wire to remove the guidelines and cut the white wire if you flip it upside down (like I did). The image is so clear and though it doesn't have IR, in the pitch black it has an extremely vivid and clear picture. Well worth it!

Furtive 09-15-2012 11:22 PM

hmm I'm inclined to try this out but with .http://www.ebay.com/itm/320975791221...witem=&vxp=mtr seems too good to be true lol

sparks 09-17-2012 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sure74 (Post 440967)
Used the lines to back in to a spot, car was dead center in the spot. No need to adjust the lines (close enough) since I put the camera where the head unit was expecting it.

The service manual says the "+" should centered 20 inches behind the car.

sparks 09-17-2012 10:47 AM

Reading the Forester owners manual, it says the marks are approximately:

Approx. 10 feet (3 m) from the bumper (green horizontal line)
Approx. 6.5 feet (2 m) from the bumper (green horizontal line)
Approx. 3 feet (1 m) from the bumper (yellow horizontal line)
Approx. 1.5 feet (0.5 m) from the bumper (red horizontal line)

RYU 09-17-2012 11:27 AM

If the mounting of the cam was places dead center on the trunk lid fascia would the guide marks be skewed? My guess is no, but perhaps someone can confirm.

You can easily notice here that the image and guide marks are skewed already but on my previous vehicles (with oem rear cams) the image isn't skewed even though the cameras are mounted offset to the side.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=1918

xcelir8brz 09-17-2012 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RYU (Post 444996)
If the mounting of the cam was places dead center on the trunk lid fascia would the guide marks be skewed? My guess is no, but perhaps someone can confirm.

You can easily notice here that the image and guide marks are skewed already but on my previous vehicles (with oem rear cams) the image isn't skewed even though the cameras are mounted offset to the side.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=1918

What I did is put a 'brick' behind the bumper on the ground away from my bumper about 24" to where I felt comfortable the red line started. I centered it on the brick edge and the red line via the Radio.

Tested it out this morning where I park and it worked like a charm. Perfect.

Lee358 09-17-2012 11:37 AM

subscribed cant wait to see other builds thanks op for the idea!

BRZranger 09-17-2012 09:39 PM

WHere are the SVXdc instructions on this how to? Did you have to splice into existing wires or do you use a pin connector?

I think I am going to go w/ the Rydeen Duo, looks OEM.

I did ask the Subaru dealer if they would do the install, but they said it's a mod, which they won't do and it would affect warranty for electronics.

Foobar 09-17-2012 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brzranger (Post 446092)
WHere are the SVXdc instructions on this how to? Did you have to splice into existing wires or do you use a pin connector?

I think I am going to go w/ the Rydeen Duo, looks OEM.

I did ask the Subaru dealer if they would do the install, but they said it's a mod, which they won't do and it would affect warranty for electronics.

I've never seen a car warranty affected by installing aftermarket audio/navigation/camera equipment. Your dealer might be misinformed. Which dealer is this?

Anyway, it involves plugging in two wires into the existing stock harness. If your dealer doesn't like that, simply unplug the two leads if you have to bring it in for electrical warranty work. Or wait until SVXdc has a reverse harness/normal harness setup that goes between the stock harness and headunit, although the only thing on the stock harness is one wire that connects to the ebrake sensor, which you can safely just leave unlplugged and just get a replacement 16-pin harness to connect your video cable to.

sure74 09-18-2012 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brzranger (Post 446092)
WHere are the SVXdc instructions on this how to? Did you have to splice into existing wires or do you use a pin connector?

I think I am going to go w/ the Rydeen Duo, looks OEM.

I did ask the Subaru dealer if they would do the install, but they said it's a mod, which they won't do and it would affect warranty for electronics.

No cutting, SVXdc's RCA w/ pins plugs right in to the 16 pin plug in the back of your BRZ's nav unit.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=1871

SVXdc will send you instructions via email after you purchase the RCA w/pins. He gives you pretty
detailed instructions with links to pictures. The short version is plug the pins in to the harness.

BRZranger 09-18-2012 09:51 PM

Alrighty, just bought the Rydeen Duo and emailed SVXdc for the harness. Looking forward to having this functional mod.

@sure74, did you have to "delete" parking lines from the camera or did they come that way? Hopefully the one I ordered doesn't come with them...

Laika 09-18-2012 10:39 PM

Great write up. I have the same question as above, is there an option to turn off the lines? With that said, how is the user interface on the stock nav in regards to the camera? What exactly do you press to choose the camera view?

Foobar 09-18-2012 10:50 PM

The head unit has its own distance grid lines, and so does the camera, so you have to disable the camera's lines. You can't disable the head unit's. You put the gear in reverse and the headunit triggers the camera on.

Furtive 09-19-2012 03:05 AM

Anyone get a hold of Svxdc? Hasnt responded back in about a week

wootwoot 09-19-2012 03:56 AM

Does this work on an FRS as well?

sure74 09-19-2012 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brzranger (Post 448162)
Alrighty, just bought the Rydeen Duo and emailed SVXdc for the harness. Looking forward to having this functional mod.

@sure74, did you have to "delete" parking lines from the camera or did they come that way? Hopefully the one I ordered doesn't come with them...

Yes you have to delete them. The camera has 2 sets of wires that come cut, the green set when
connected activates the camera line delete. I soldered the green wires and covered them with a
small piece of heat shrink tubing (not pictured).

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=1933

Quote:

Originally Posted by wootwoot (Post 448735)
Does this work on an FRS as well?

We are discussing the addition of a reverse camera on the BRZ navigation unit. I personally don't
know what stereo options are available for the FR-S.

RYU 09-19-2012 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furtive (Post 448674)
Anyone get a hold of Svxdc? Hasnt responded back in about a week

It took about a week or so for SVXdc to get back to me. Hang in there. He seems like a great guy and very attentive and detail oriented (what a relief!!). I'm sure he's got a long queue to get thru so he'll get to you.

I received my parts. Just waiting for the camera.

I still want to try to install it in the center position on the rear trunk fascia. Will try to see how that goes...

BRZranger 09-19-2012 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RYU (Post 448972)
I still want to try to install it in the center position on the rear trunk fascia. Will try to see how that goes...

That's what i was thinking also, since mine is the premium, there is nothing in the center, but it's angled a bit. The angle could help or hurt the viewing angle. Interested to see your install.

Draco-REX 09-19-2012 11:56 AM

I have an aftermarket camera already installed with a standalone monitor I have wired in. I dislike doing things twice, but this is such a clean install I may switch.

RYU 09-19-2012 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brzranger (Post 448993)
That's what i was thinking also, since mine is the premium, there is nothing in the center, but it's angled a bit. The angle could help or hurt the viewing angle. Interested to see your install.

I had not looked at it that closely. That may or may not be a deal breaker. I want to avoid any drastic viewing angle changes. The guide-lines are helpful for me if calibrated properly. Thanks for the heads up.

Cudgel 09-19-2012 01:06 PM

Excellent! Another "to do" added to my list.

Furtive 09-21-2012 01:47 AM

where did you tap the postive and ground wires from? I assume you wouldnt want the camera powered all the time

sure74 09-21-2012 09:35 AM

Already mentioned in this thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by sure74 (Post 440967)
Ran the power to the factory amp (+12V Accessory)
and grounded it on one of the amp bolts.

The camera has to be on when the head unit boots to register that it exists.
Also worth mentioning is that the 6 volt camera lead for the factory installed
camera remains on while the car is running.

RYU 09-22-2012 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RYU (Post 449060)
I had not looked at it that closely. That may or may not be a deal breaker. I want to avoid any drastic viewing angle changes. The guide-lines are helpful for me if calibrated properly. Thanks for the heads up.

I finished the install this afternoon. After inspecting the mounting surface area on the rear fascia, there is a distinct outline where the factory camera was designed to fit. The biggest pain the in ass was running the wire in the car. I like to zip tie my wires every 6-8" inches so it was a pain. With that said... that was probably the most difficult part of the install. I used SVXdc's full wire harness setup.

Some pros/cons...
The Rydeen is a good quality camera. Mounting is nice. Build quality is nice and the clarity is definitely good enough to do the job. I wish the camera had a wider angle lens. If you're parallel parking you really only see maybe 2/3rds of the bumper area. I think it's enough to know how close to hitting someone's front bumper but it's sort of skewed to the side and again, not centered and cropted on the sides.

Why I chose to mount it on the factory location...
The center position would have worked I think. Yes, the surface area is sloped a bit more by a few degress. Will it affect viewing angle? Possibly since it will point more towards the ground effectively losing a bit more usable viewing area since you'll be seeing more bumper. The deal breaker for the center position for me was because I was feeling lazy and didn't want to adjusting the green/red lines. Those lines are skewed by default so I'm just going to live with it. It's really not that bad.

Took me 3hrs and I was a former installer in H.S. with the right tools.

Great mod! Great info on here. Great service from SVXdc. Good luck!

btw.. where are you guys tapping in for Camera 12v power? I temporarily shoved a wire into the red ACC wire into the head unit. I'll redo it once I received some kind of plug n play solution from SVXdc (if he can come up with one). I really didn't want to cut into any factory wires... call me anal.

Also, how's the VSS bypass switch mod working out for you guys?


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