More FR-s than BRZ?
 

Looks to me like there are more FR-S's than the BRZ. Whys is that.. Cheaper? Personal preference? I know they are just about the same car but i would take the BRZ over the sighION any day.

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My guess is that the prices of most BRZs are marked up.

They are making a lot more, something like 7 FR-S' to 1 BRZ. Don't quote me on that number.

Toyota gets the lion's share of the manufacturing for putting up the development money.

The rumor I read was that they are building FR-S' in about a 2-1 ratio to BRZ's. Meaning 2 FR-S for every BRZ.

In Canada, BRZ is $3000 more than the FRS. $3000 is what I am planning to spend on mods on my car.

production quantity and price

Yea its the same here...about 3k difference but thats for the limited version. Taking a look at 1 today.

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More FR-S are being built, so more are being sold.

I saved 4,500.00 not getting a BRZ, I wanted one but the Subaru dealer here had issues with my 06 WRX having black wheels. So that is money I will drop into either the car in mods or toward paying off the car, their loss is my gain.

The wait time for getting a FR-S is shorter so people opt for that..i know I just got very lucky with my BRZ since someone dropped their pre-order. I think they both have their pros/cons in terms of aesthetics but at the end you have to remember the engineering on both is the same....also my first "SighION" TC was a very reliable car and loved every minute i owned it!

More are made, its more visible to the public (how many commercials for FR-S there are compared to the BRZ?), cheaper.

It's funny, at the FR-S first drive event I was talking to some dude that raced Porsches and he had no clue what I was talking about when I told him I went for the BRZ instead of the FR-S. I had to explain that was Subaru's version of the car.

Because the average person cannot handle the BRZ's 'buttoned-up engineering'.

Also, Subaru only makes x amount of each car. Its the way they have been doing things for a while now. They have very spot on projections, which is why they have been so successful as of late. That and their cars are amazingly dependable.

I'm pretty sure it's mostly a function of availability. Subaru projected low sales for the BRZ, so they're pretty much limited to their projections unless they can add some manufacturing capacity.

-Justin

Keep it that way.. I dont want to see much of my car on the road other than myself :D

Never really wanted the Subie version with the one exception of the exclusive blue color. Owned a Scion xB before the FRS and occasionally miss the 4 doors.

The simple reason is that toyota put up the majority of the money for the project and gets the majority if the vehicles produced... Roughly 3 86 for every 1 brz. The whole limited thing is just a marketing spin, and "buttoned up engineering" is just fanboyism.

Correct answer.

Now, can we close the thread because this has been asked before, multiple times? ... :bonk:

If the BRZ had the FRS front bumper, was sold for 3k less, I didn't have to wait for it and it came in Hot Lava... Then I would have bought the Subaru.

I guess I've reached an age where I think brand loyalty is a bit silly as it's only a 1 way street.

I think the US FR-S to BRZ ratio is more like 3 to 1,
for every 3 FR-S that lands here there will be 1 BRZ

This is the correct answer. No need for any other speculation.

Thread can be closed now :clap:

Scion allocated 12,000-15,000 FR-S' for 2012, S.O.A. was not expecting such high demand (duh) and allocated 6,000...so it's actually about 2 to 1..

I don't know about allocations in the USA or other countries for tht matter, but I do remember from very early it has been said pretty consistently that in the assembly line, for every 3 FRS there is 1 BRZ.

I was referring to the USA allocation only, worldwide they will build 100,000 the first year but do not break that number up between, the 86, FRS & BRZ.

I know you were, that's why I replied back ;)

I feel like every week i see one of these topics -__________________-

It would disappear if you didn't bump it :)..Like i just did.

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Base BRZ: $32,758 after taxes
Sport Tech BRZ: $35,018.70 after taxes
FR-S: $31,171.05 after taxes

That's a difference of $1587 between the base BRZ and the FR-S, and $3847 between the Sport Tech BRZ and the FR-S. Assuming there isn't a markup on top of all that.

where the eff are you getting those numbers?

Canada, eh

From the attic...

It's the first time I've seen below 16k projected frs. This thread is pretty clear cut 3:1

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10766

I'm just saying...

For what it's worth, the guy at the Scion dealership I spoke to yesterday said that the current assembly-line ratio was seven BRZ's out of 100 cars. 93% of the vehicles rolling off the line are Toyota/Scion.

Its just production quantity. If Subaru made more BRZ, you'd see em sell out faster than the FRS.

Price has nothing to do with it. A few grand for better quality options, most people will pay the higher price.

I initially wanted the BRZ... Yet a few points helped me head for an FR-S:

• Limited allocations for BRZ (in my area)
• Subaru dealer(s) were charging premiums on top of MSRP
• Trade-in value for my MX-5 Miata (was receiving more from the Toyota dealer for some reason)
• Lower starting price on the FR-S (which ended up being an MSRP of $24,985 for me)
• Had to wait only 3 weeks for my FR-S to arrive after I placed my order at a volume dealer... Order process was less complicated than I expected.

I'm sure these are only some of the reasons that may possibly relate to other FR-S owners, as well. :)

Just to confirm the BRZ:FR-S approximate ratio is indeed 1:3:
Which calculates to be:
26.4% BRZ
73.6% FR-S

The cost of the BRZ's extras over the FR-S are a good value but not a deal breaker against the FR-S. Lack of WRB from Scion was the deal breaker for me. I don't like the BRZ's touch screen which requires extra concentration to operate making it more dangerous on the road. And it's riddled with software bugs. I prefer tactile buttons on my radio but too stubborn to switch to an aftermarket unit.

the only thing that kept me from getting brz, which base does have alot nicer interior was the 2k base difference,and then the 1.5k over sticker. nicer interior did not equal $3,500. The other thing i forgot to mention was, it was hard to find one in person and when I found one... the guy was not going to let me even test drive it...