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blsfrs 04-19-2023 09:31 AM

Fumoto valve and residual oil
 
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Last weeked i had to pull my engine. I drained the oil from the Fumoto valve. After a bit, I decided since the valve might get bumped during the engine removal and transport, I took the valve out to replace it with a regular oil plug.

There was quite a bit of residual oil still in the pan. 1-2 cups?

And yes, I need a new drop light.

Joon525 04-19-2023 10:14 AM

If I remember correctly it's because the threads of the valve itself stick up a little bit inside the pan.
Years ago on an LGT forum someone actually cut a notch in it so more drained out.

Ultramaroon 04-19-2023 01:49 PM

I cut mine down to the depth of the female threads.

And that drop light is just fine.

KillerBMotorsport 04-19-2023 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Joon525 (Post 3577727)
If I remember correctly it's because the threads of the valve itself stick up a little bit inside the pan.
Years ago on an LGT forum someone actually cut a notch in it so more drained out.

Yep. Guys do all kinds of things to get that last bit out. Notch the bottom, drill a hole, grind some threads off jack or ramp on one side to tip the car... The press formed thread insert also protrudes into the pan + 3/8". So even without the Fumoto, you're leaving a good bit in there. More than a cup, but probably not two?

https://killerbmotorsports.sharepoin...XQQlg?e=bFSoRa

Glad to see the New WRX FA24's pan has a better boss that's extended outward. Looks to have machined threads (vs formed) and there are more threads as well.

WRX top left, BRZ on the right...

https://killerbmotorsports.sharepoin...zu1Cw?e=PEehlj


How much of this really matters? Probably very little since at an oil change, you have almost a quart suspended in various places in the engine anyway. Just another reason to be vigilant with oil changes.

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Ohio Enthusiast 04-19-2023 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerBMotorsport (Post 3577749)
How much of this really matters? Probably very little since at an oil change, you have almost a quart suspended in various places in the engine anyway. Just another reason to be vigilant with oil changes.

Add an oil cooler and you have a whole additional quart not being drained.

Capt Spaulding 04-19-2023 04:35 PM

And the unasked question. Does it matter??





General answer. Probably not. I change mine on a warm engine primarily to ensure that the oil is well mixed.

Even on an in-line vertical cylinder engine I never got all of it. On an “H” configuration? Fuggidaboutit

mav1178 04-19-2023 08:32 PM

unless you're doing UOA at every interval its not super important.

more important is regular maintenance as needed.

Ultramaroon 04-19-2023 09:33 PM

so, wait. is it regular maintenance, or as needed?

Clipdat 04-19-2023 10:41 PM

Regular maintenance, as needed.

Ultramaroon 04-19-2023 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Clipdat (Post 3577822)
Regular maintenance, as needed.

Mine regularly needs maintenance.

Clipdat 04-19-2023 11:01 PM

Same.

Wally86 04-20-2023 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 3577803)
unless you're doing UOA at every interval its not super important.

more important is regular maintenance as needed.

I uh... I do them at every interval. Done them since the car was new and put the fomoto valve in about halfway through the life of the car so far (45k miles). The extra oil that doesn't make it out... doesn't seem to make a difference :D

KillerBMotorsport 04-20-2023 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast (Post 3577754)
Add an oil cooler and you have a whole additional quart not being drained.

We tee in a drain valve, or if access is easy, just pull the lower line. OEM coolers tend to be more user friendly with a drain and decent access. Wish more aftermarket coolers did the same.

KillerBMotorsport 04-20-2023 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding (Post 3577771)
And the unasked question. Does it matter??

No. It's a fraction of what's remaining in the engine anyway.

KillerBMotorsport 04-20-2023 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 3577803)
unless you're doing UOA at every interval its not super important.

more important is regular maintenance as needed.

We do UOAs at every oil change and beat this thing like a rented mule, and have very good UOA results, because as you mentioned OCIs appropriate to usage is important.

Ultramaroon 04-20-2023 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerBMotorsport (Post 3577898)
No. It's a fraction of what's remaining in the engine anyway.

7/19

Ultramaroon 04-20-2023 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerBMotorsport (Post 3577897)
We tee in a drain valve, or if access is easy, just pull the lower line. OEM coolers tend to be more user friendly with a drain and decent access. Wish more aftermarket coolers did the same.

I have the big series-1 setrab. I hook up a fill hose and flush it with fresh oil until I see clean come out the return side.

Capt Spaulding 04-21-2023 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3577913)
I have the big series-1 setrab. I hook up a fill hose and flush it with fresh oil until I see clean come out the return side.

I’m guessing this requires disconnecting both lines from the adapter plate. I applaud your dedication. I’d make a huge mess doing that.

I just run a version of the oem turbo engine cooler setup. It’s decently effective for my needs and it seems self draining.


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