Spare tire in limited models?
 

Saw a video clip from an Australia release yesterday and noticed that it had a spare in the trunk. I think it was a Limited version, also noticed from the online BRZ owners manual that the specs list a spare tire tire size under the 18” wheel section. Makes me wonder if those with Limited are going to get a spare, those with Premiums get a repair kit? Anyone else noticed this?

Lol at having your manual torquing checked by a shop or dealer. From what I have seen they always use uncalibrated air hammers when mounting a wheel and never a torque wrench. Probably why my front rotors got warped, overtorqued.

Yeah its also on the online configurator.

What's interesting in your image is that no BRZ comes with the 17 inch wheels in Australia. Where was that video from?

Both the Coupe and Coupe S come with 18's. We don't really have a bottom spec.

I saw this in the attached BRZ spec sheet. In the US we are all getting a tire repair kit.

Tires Premium: 215/45 R17 87W summer performance
Limited: 215/40 R18 85Y Michelin® Pilot® Sport 4 summer performance
Both trim levels feature tire repair kit

https://s3.amazonaws.com/subarumedia...ecs_-FINAL.pdf

I hope that is wrong. No spare tire is a pain in the ass. If that is the case I may buy one. Not cool Subaru.

It’s not just Subaru. I think they are all going to a can of Fix-A-Flat.


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Can we buy an 18 inch spare tire. I haven't found a part number yet.

Judging from saluki89's post, the spare tire is the SAME SIZE as the regular tires - not a donut(!) If that's true then the only difference might be a cheaper wheel. Not sure how much of a problem a directional spare would be.

This is a spare I found on the net that is supposed to work. But I am hoping for a real Subaru spare.

https://ezsparewheel.com/products/17...heel-125-80r17.

Are directional tires even made anymore?

Going? Most brands haven’t had spares since the late 2000s

You guys are giving me quite the nostalgia trip between these 2 comments [emoji28]

35-1/2LB? :eyebulge: Welcome to the 21st century, I guess.

On road trips, the time one might want a spare tire the most -- also taking up X% of trunk space right when you want that maximized too.

This is a spare that should fit in the spare well under the trunk. That is my hope anyway.

35 pounds isnt going to change anything. That's a little more than 1 percent of the weight of the car.

:w00t: Thanks, I learned something. So, there's a well, even if Subaru does not supply a spare tire in it. The decision remains whether to utilize that space for a spare, or additional storage space; I swear I saw somewhere once a round piece of luggage designed to fit a spare well.

You know, as we're 100% certain to get a trailer hitch anyway -- I could rig a Continental Kit! ;)

I think Toyota might still be the only one to offer spares (and they're moving away from them too)
The other funny thing is that a lack of spare tire is supposed to increase trunk space, but the spare tire well is almost always filled up with a foam block with the fix-a-flat kit and other items and that extra space is just gone lol.

but i guess weight reduction is also a benefit.

Yea I think weight and cost reduction are the reasons.

One good thing notice is the BRZ comes with a tire pump the plugs into the 12v port.


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And what does fix-a-flat goo do the the TPM sensor?

Break it lol

Spare tire in limited models?
 

Nothing, assuming you take it to a shop to repair the tire where they will clean the sensor off. If you leave the sensor dirty it may mess with its radio performance, but the battery, sensor, and transmitter are sealed in the housing so you can’t really break them by gunking them up.

TPMS sensors are mature technology now, this isn’t 2005 where they were brand new and breaking for the stupidest reasons.

And if you patch the tire yourself with a plug kit, as I've always done, without ever needing to bring a flat anywhere for repair? Oh. I can't do that anymore.

Then you wouldn’t put sealant in it no?

Put sealant in it? No. The missing spare is one of the few serious deficiencies of the new models as far as I'm concerned. If the trunk well still exists to accommodate a spare, I'd get one if I were serious about buying a 2022. But right now, my 2020 has only 6400 miles on it, and I'm not buying.



And assuming that any repair shop will take care of it assumes no difference in the cost, to you, of pulling the tire off the rim to access the sensor and clean it, and remount the tire. In addition to whatever they charge for the 25 cent plug, and labor.

oh you're not buying this car? why are you complaining about this? toodles

So did the 2020 have a spare? Could I just buy one of those for the 2022 limited?

Hell, I'll probably contact the local junk yard first to see if they have any totaled cars that still have the spare in it. No spare tire is lame as hell. I haven't received my 2022 yet, but that's my only gripe with the car on paper thus far.

I believe all the first gens had a spare.
I dont think there was ever any spare tire delete option.
(except maybe that stripped down RC grade option in Japan)

Plus in some markets you were able to have a full size spare as opposed to the donut, which cut into the trunk space a little bit

The US models had a prosthetic donut that fit in the well. Can't really call it a "tire".
The manual says not to travel over 50 miles on it.

I think some of the AUS models had a spare tire, but that needed a lump in the middle of the well cover.

A doughnut is all I need. I am just concerned about getting a flat that the fix a flat won't fix and then having to have my car towed 70 miles back home. Not having a spare is stupid.

Yeah, after any shop messes with my wheels, I break the lugnuts loose and retighten. Haven't used a torque wrench before, but at least loosen and then make normal lug-wrench-tightness instead of their ridiculous air tools on max torque.

Can someone with a delivered BRZ comment on how much space there is in the spare wheel well? A lot of us need to decide if we can buy a spare and put it in there.

A full size spare will fit the same as the previous generation. It will need the floor mat with a hole in it to fit. This was based on the preview model I looked at in Australia that had the full size spare fitted.

Note: You may need to put a jumper/towel in the wheel to stop small items from falling between the wheel spokes.

Photo of the previous generation example.
https://performancedrive.com.au/wp-c...pare-wheel.jpg

im not sure a space saver tire would fit under the carpet and imo^ that doesn't look like a great option. i'll stick with the tire goop.

Has anyone tried to fit a space saver tire from the 1st gen in the 2nd gen?
Visually it looks like the 2nd gen should fit it without any problems.

If anyone has the dimensions, you can buy a doughnut for our car that is 4.9 inches wide. So hopefully that wouldn't make it too tall to fit when you take the foam thing out.

Here is the link.

https://ezsparewheel.com/products/17...heel-125-80r17

I can't remember the last time I had a flat tire from a road hazard. Usually I will find a screw or nail on routine inspection and have the tire repaired. Other than that, about fifty years ago I was at a Grateful Dead concert and late into the evening when we returned to my 1959 Austin 850 Mini, I found two tires flat from sidewall punctures. There must have been a hundred other cars in the same situation. Fortunately, I had two spares mounted on ten inch wheels in the boot. I was on my way in short order. It must have been about 20 degrees out and I was not dressed to be outdoors. I gave a ride to a couple of stranded drivers. Their body heat helped inside that wretched car as the heater was a one fan speed recirculating unit that only protected your feet from frostbite. My thoughts on a repair kit vs. a full or compact spare? From experience, the only way you will never need them is if you have one or the other.

Just pulled a 4" roofing nail out of one of my tires - luckily I was close to home, and my portable air compressor, to get me to a shop. Punctured the tire in 2 places. Car only has 800km on it. I now have a small 12V compressor in the trunk...

A compressor is a good idea to have anyways. Even with a spare tire, you might find it underinflated when it's finally time to use it.

For a couple of nail issues I had, a DIY tire plug kit has been useful.
One of those issues happened during a car control clinic, when an allegedly old nail left my friend's tire due to tire flexing, so the tire was losing pressure by the minute. Put the car on my scissor jack, pumped some air, plugged the tire — the tire was fine for a few weeks after that, and then decided to just put new tires on.

A scissor jack is included with '22s, right?

I once needed a spare when renting a car in a rural area.
Admittedly it was a stupid idea to drive that fast on an unpaved "highway" :D
I hit a stone that was in my "lane" in a blind corner...
The impact was so severe that the inside of the wheel barrel reached the caliper (the car didn't have a BBK),
and the stone caused some cosmetic damage to the rocker panel.

That being said, having a spare tire is beneficial for the piece of mind.
Will I buy a spare tire for the '22? Maybe, but not certain.

I'm willing to provide a spare from my 2020 to test with in SE PA. I don't think I can use my donut anyway with 18" rims and brembos. For science.

Yeah the 22 does still have a scissor jack. I had taken it out, not really seeing the use for it without a spare wheel, but I take your point there. I'll throw it back in.