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BrahmaBull1990 06-24-2021 10:41 AM

Do we have the most useless mechanical speedometer ever made?
 
I was looking at this thing today and you have to be doing 80mph to register (not even) 1/4 way around the face.

Who designed this? Haha

https://i.imgur.com/UcjD8bh.jpg

Purist 06-24-2021 10:44 AM

Huh? What the fuck are you talking about? You have difficulty registering your speed?? Because of the Speedo design?? Jesus H.

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Sasquachulator 06-24-2021 10:47 AM

I suggest you never drive an Aston Martin.

If the speedo makes you cringe, the tach in an AM will drive you nuts.

BrahmaBull1990 06-24-2021 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Purist (Post 3444185)
Huh? What the fuck are you talking about? You have difficulty registering your speed?? Because of the Speedo design?? Jesus H.

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lol you're spicy today

I never said I struggled to read the speed; it's digital ffs. I am just saying the mechanical speedo is a stupid design.

Go meditate or something before you drive someone off the road

The Red One 06-24-2021 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BrahmaBull1990 (Post 3444182)
I was looking at this thing today and you have to be doing 80mph to register (not even) 1/4 way around the face.

Who designed this? Haha


When I first saw this speedo I said to myself Wow I can go 260 km.
After driving it for some time within permissible speeds I don’t see it or view it anymore
As it being way too difficult to monitor my speed.
the digital one is all I need.

Im just used to my other car where the top indicated speed is half of that and the
limited sweep is more suited to general legal driving.

Wally86 06-24-2021 11:45 AM

Didn't someone say it was setup to have 86 at the horizontal position? Or something? lol

BrahmaBull1990 06-24-2021 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Red One (Post 3444212)
When I first saw this speedo I said to myself Wow I can go 260 km.
After driving it for some time within permissible speeds I don’t see it or view it anymore
As it being way too difficult to monitor my speed.
the digital one is all I need.

Im just used to my other car where the top indicated speed is half of that and the
limited sweep is more suited to general legal driving.

EXACTLY.

I find myself having to look at the bottom of the gauge cluster to see the needle under normal driving conditions. The digital speedo is all I watch for driving. But it seems odd it is scaled as it is.

bcj 06-24-2021 12:08 PM

The dial isn't mechanical any more than the digits are.
Could be one small way to reduce weight by deleting the redundant system.

Sasquachulator 06-24-2021 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Wally86 (Post 3444213)
Didn't someone say it was setup to have 86 at the horizontal position? Or something? lol

I think that might be just for the tach in the refresh, having the 7000 RPM mark right at the horizontal 12 o clock position (pre-refresh 7k is a bit past that mark)

I dont know if the speedo ever got that kind of attention.

Overdrive 06-24-2021 12:26 PM

If the digital screen ever malfunctions or dies I'll be pretty glad it's there. I don't use it because I don't need it having the digital one available (and the needle usually reads about a mph higher than my actual speed), but I appreciate the redundancy because shit happens, and it'll still be important to know how fast you're going.

Grady 06-24-2021 12:56 PM

I have had mine to 12 o’clock. I see no issue with it.

7 skulls 06-24-2021 01:11 PM

I like it. I keep my digital speedo in mph and reference the needle for kmh conversion. My last snowmobile had a 200kmh (120mph) speedo with a 270 degree sweep. Couldn't even see the needle half the time, useless.

BrahmaBull1990 06-24-2021 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Grady (Post 3444240)
I have had mine to 12 o’clock. I see no issue with it.

ah haha! This is the correct response :burnrubber:

ZDan 06-24-2021 01:21 PM

To be fair, most "mechanical" (analog/pointer) gauge only use 2/3 the face or 240 degrees of sweep, and 0-80 isn't 1/4 full sweep (90 deg), it's more like 1/3 or 120 degrees. So 80mph is *half* the "normal" 240 degree sweep range.

But surely everyone goes by the digital readout anyway...

At least major hashmarks are 20mph increments with 10mph sub-increments and 5mph sub-sub-incrrements, unlike some Porsches which have 25mph major increment with 5mph sub-increments, pretty dumb...

wbradley 06-24-2021 01:21 PM

For such a nicely designed car, I have wondered who the f made the decision to include that redundant and barely readable speedo needle. It's about as useless as tits on a bull.

BrahmaBull1990 06-24-2021 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ZDan (Post 3444250)
To be fair, most "mechanical" (analog/pointer) gauge only use 2/3 the face or 240 degrees of sweep, and 0-80 isn't 1/4 full sweep (90 deg), it's more like 1/3 or 120 degrees. So 80mph is *half* the "normal" 240 degree sweep range.

But surely everyone goes by the digital readout anyway...

At least major hashmarks are 20mph increments with 10mph sub-increments and 5mph sub-sub-incrrements, unlike some Porsches which have 25mph major increment with 5mph sub-increments, pretty dumb...

Well said...I'm just bitching. I go 80 maybe once a month haha. But I do agree if the digital fails, I appreciate having an analog readout.

7 skulls 06-24-2021 02:55 PM

Reminds me of the time I got a speeding ticket in my brothers 2006 honda civic si. Cop leaned down, looked in the window and said "Does this thing even have a speedometer?":paddle:

DarkSunrise 06-24-2021 03:07 PM

It’s definitely useless, especially next to the super legible digital speedometer readout. They should have used that space to display oil pressure and temp. Or digital dash.

Tcoat 06-24-2021 03:19 PM

Most of the cars I ever had that had a tach were speedo on the right tach on the left. For the first week or so with the FRS I would keep looking at the left gauge to see the RPMs. They were always very low in the sweep!

BrahmaBull1990 06-24-2021 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3444339)
Most of the cars I ever had that had a tach were speedo on the right tach on the left. For the first week or so with the FRS I would keep looking at the left gauge to see the RPMs. They were always very low in the sweep!

"I sure get up to 7,000kpm fast" haha

Tcoat 06-24-2021 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BrahmaBull1990 (Post 3444357)
"I sure get up to 7,000kpm fast" haha

Could never quite break that Mach 6 mark.

Sasquachulator 06-24-2021 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3444369)
Could never quite break that Mach 6 mark.

You didn't set it to ludicirous speed!

Tcoat 06-24-2021 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sasquachulator (Post 3444371)
You didn't set it to ludicirous speed!

Couldn’t. I was surrounded by assholes.

86-75309 06-24-2021 07:03 PM

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My 981 Cayman (2014-2016) had a speedo like this one. The only exception is mine was a base model who's speedo only went up to 175mph. The S and GTS are like the picture below:

BrahmaBull1990 06-24-2021 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 86-75309 (Post 3444413)
My 981 Cayman (2014-2016) had a speedo like this one. The only exception is mine was a base model who's speedo only went up to 175mph. The S and GTS are like the picture below:

Beautiful cluster, though.

wbradley 06-24-2021 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3444339)
Most of the cars I ever had that had a tach were speedo on the right tach on the left. For the first week or so with the FRS I would keep looking at the left gauge to see the RPMs. They were always very low in the sweep!

Any worthwhile car is tach in the middle, speedo off to the side.

Lantanafrs2 06-24-2021 08:32 PM

Who needs a speedometer. Just try to stay with the minivan in front of you.

wbradley 06-24-2021 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrahmaBull1990 (Post 3444416)
Beautiful cluster, though.

That's what she said.

BrahmaBull1990 06-24-2021 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 3444432)
Any worthwhile car is tach in the middle, speedo off to the side.

No argument with the placement

Tcoat 06-24-2021 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 3444432)
Any worthwhile car is tach in the middle, speedo off to the side.

Any worthwhile car has no tach. Tachs are for noobs!

NoHaveMSG 06-24-2021 09:41 PM

I can't even see that speedo behind my aftermarket gauges :iono:


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