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RIĐO 12-24-2020 02:56 PM
4g63 Swap
 
Hello gents,

So I was set on K24 turbo swap with bmw f80 dct transmission. Now my shop called me and said they were having a talk and came up with the idea of putting evo 9 engine in.
They have freshly built stroked 4g63 engine that will probably run on motec ecu. They said they need to figure out a bunch of things along with the transmission but they are highly capable and i don't have any doubts about them building my car but I figured that I will do my part and check in the community for any thoughts, advice on transmission, etc..

Have a nice hollidays and stay safe 👍

Ashikabi 12-24-2020 03:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RIĐO (Post 3395404)
Hello gents,



So I was set on K24 turbo swap with bmw f80 dct transmission. Now my shop called me and said they were having a talk and came up with the idea of putting evo 9 engine in.

They have freshly built stroked 4g63 engine that will probably run on motec ecu. They said they need to figure out a bunch of things along with the transmission but they are highly capable and i don't have any doubts about them building my car but I figured that I will do my part and check in the community for any thoughts, advice on transmission, etc..



Have a nice hollidays and stay safe [emoji106]
Adapt it to work with Z or S2k transmission. Or full send it and put the motor in the back. Then you could AWD "easily"

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RIĐO 12-24-2020 04:18 PM
I was considering s2k trans but I think we will try with bmw first. People might get offended since its auto ��

DarkPira7e 12-24-2020 04:27 PM
Good luck. That engine really doesn't swap well, it's facing the wrong way. K24 is a far better choice from every angle possible. I love the 4g63 but please

Ashikabi 12-24-2020 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3395424)
Good luck. That engine really doesn't swap well, it's facing the wrong way. K24 is a far better choice from every angle possible. I love the 4g63 but please
It's only facing the wrong way until you turn it

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weederr33 12-24-2020 04:47 PM
Ah yes, a modern rendition of the Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T/GSX. Proceed.

DarkPira7e 12-24-2020 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 3395426)
It's only facing the wrong way until you turn it

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Fair enough!

Ashikabi 12-24-2020 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3395430)
Fair enough!
If he turns or 180 and puts it in the back seat he can have AWD

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RIĐO 12-24-2020 04:55 PM
mid engine awd 86 sounds mental :D

Trueweltall 01-20-2021 08:15 PM
You couldn't pay me to swap in a 4G63. One timing belt snapping on the interstate was enough for me to swear off Mitsubishi.

Xero-Limit 01-26-2021 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Trueweltall (Post 3401042)
You couldn't pay me to swap in a 4G63. One timing belt snapping on the interstate was enough for me to swear off Mitsubishi.
It wasn't the broken exhaust studs, stripped coolant necks, seized turbo studs, broken transfer cases, walking cranks, or yearly $5,000 transmissions? :bonk:

wparsons 01-30-2021 10:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RIĐO (Post 3395404)
Hello gents,

So I was set on K24 turbo swap with bmw f80 dct transmission. Now my shop called me and said they were having a talk and came up with the idea of putting evo 9 engine in.
They have freshly built stroked 4g63 engine that will probably run on motec ecu. They said they need to figure out a bunch of things along with the transmission but they are highly capable and i don't have any doubts about them building my car but I figured that I will do my part and check in the community for any thoughts, advice on transmission, etc..

Have a nice hollidays and stay safe 👍

Why are they suggesting such a downgrade? A K24 is a better engine in every way. There's also well known ways to have it be reliable in a RWD configuration even under heavy track use.

Why the BMW transmission?

This sounds like a hugely expensive idea.

If you're after big power and a gearbox to handle it, why not look at an LS swap with matching gearbox?

DustinS 01-30-2021 03:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 3403194)
Why are they suggesting such a downgrade? A K24 is a better engine in every way. There's also well known ways to have it be reliable in a RWD configuration even under heavy track use.

Why the BMW transmission?

This sounds like a hugely expensive idea.

If you're after big power and a gearbox to handle it, why not look at an LS swap with matching gearbox?
DCT swaps are the new thing right now. Though in the very VERY early stages. Still no real base maps available and little documentation, but they are extremely capable and offer just about the best experience. Manual when you want it, with fast shifts and no torque loss, while also being able to be put in to Auto mode and drive around. It's why I ditched my T56 magnum for one.

wparsons 02-04-2021 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DustinS (Post 3403246)
DCT swaps are the new thing right now. Though in the very VERY early stages. Still no real base maps available and little documentation, but they are extremely capable and offer just about the best experience. Manual when you want it, with fast shifts and no torque loss, while also being able to be put in to Auto mode and drive around. It's why I ditched my T56 magnum for one.

I was questioning why the specific BMW one, and not another option.

ninjan00dles 02-04-2021 02:17 PM
Another option would be to use a DSM / EVO 1-3 / JDM Mitsubishi RVR 4G63. There are a few "bolt on" RWD transmission options for that swap (Dodge D50 / Mighty Max).

The Evo VIII and Evo IX transmissions are flipped and I don't recall them ever being used in a RWD form from the factory.

https://projectzerog.com/transmissions.shtml

DustinS 02-04-2021 03:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 3404208)
I was questioning why the specific BMW one, and not another option.
Because DCT (Dual Clutch Transmission)... and it's really the only decently price DCT option on the market currently.

Trueweltall 02-04-2021 08:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xero-Limit (Post 3402340)
It wasn't the broken exhaust studs, stripped coolant necks, seized turbo studs, broken transfer cases, walking cranks, or yearly $5,000 transmissions? :bonk:

Third gear did grind(slighty), never bothered to fix it before I sold it.


Clutch job took two long days on jack stands.

Sonic86 10-10-2022 01:48 AM
Hey fellas.
I got a stupid question.
Is there ANY possibility of connecting (somehow) together 4G63 or 4g69 engine and fr-s manual tranny.
I’m getting crazy but really need it.

soundman98 10-10-2022 02:56 AM
would definitely need a custom trans adapter spacer, likely also need to convert the engines output shaft to the trans' input shaft pattern.

considering no one else is putting the 4g64 in with the oem trans, it's going to require a machine shop and a large wallet.

Irace86.2.0 10-10-2022 01:18 PM
Soundman means using a custom flywheel with a custom trans adapter. Your best bet is ditching the stock transmission for something stronger and that has aftermarket support, as there are already RWD adapter kits for common T56 transmissions.


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