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cat94 12-04-2020 07:57 PM

Interior Door Panel Fitment Issues
 
Hello,


For those that have removed the interior door panel of your cars, did you have any fitment issues when putting the panel back on? My drivers side sits completely flush all around (as did the passenger side before I removed it). Now the passenger side has a substantial gap around the entire perimeter.


I'm sure that all 8 retaining clips snapped into place... did I do something wrong?


I'm thinking that either (1) I "bent" the panel when removing it, or (2) the retaining clips wore out when I first removed the panel. If (2) is the case, will replacing the clips fix the fitment? (it was a lot easier to remove the panel a second time, so I'm leaning towards this theory)


Appreciate any advice :)

beltax90 12-04-2020 11:41 PM

never had problems taking on and off my door panels and there being any gaps. But have always kept in mind to make sure all pop clips are there and intact.

what helped me earlier on to make sure each clip was popped properly back in was to take small pieces of masking tape and stick them on the opposite side of where each clip should be. that way i'd know which exact spots to PUNCH..er I mean, pop back into place.

also making sure the top edge of the panel is hanging properly off of the top of the door? making sure wires aren't in the way? what were you doing that required you to take off your door cards?

Tcoat 12-05-2020 12:01 AM

Fit.
The word is fit.
You do not add 'ment to the end of it.
It is just FIT.
"did you have any fit issues"

A fitment is a fixed item of furniture or piece of equipment, especially in a house it is not a replacement for fit.

soundman98 12-05-2020 02:08 AM

iirc, hanging the panel off the top edge can sometimes be a touch tricky to get everything to line up at first.

i'd just pull it and try again.

cat94 12-05-2020 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3390615)
Fit.
The word is fit.
You do not add 'ment to the end of it.
It is just FIT.
"did you have any fit issues"

A fitment is a fixed item of furniture or piece of equipment, especially in a house it is not a replacement for fit.

Fit! Got it :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by beltax90 (Post 3390608)
never had problems taking on and off my door panels and there being any gaps. But have always kept in mind to make sure all pop clips are there and intact.

what helped me earlier on to make sure each clip was popped properly back in was to take small pieces of masking tape and stick them on the opposite side of where each clip should be. that way i'd know which exact spots to PUNCH..er I mean, pop back into place.

also making sure the top edge of the panel is hanging properly off of the top of the door? making sure wires aren't in the way? what were you doing that required you to take off your door cards?

I did check each clip and counted the clicks as they snapped in. When the door was hanging, everything seemed to line up with the faint marks on the soft rubber on each side. As for wires, there's just the one to the window/lock buttons and I'm pretty sure they well out of the way.. although I could be wrong. Will try again with your tape trick tomorrow.

I was switching out the chrome door handles for black ones :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3390650)
iirc, hanging the panel off the top edge can sometimes be a touch tricky to get everything to line up at first.

i'd just pull it and try again.

It seems like everything is lined up since all the clips snapped in place. I tried several times on & off but the gap was there every time...

Also, I may have overexaggerated the amount of gap I'm seeing. It's finger 1-2 finger nails worth of space. But the driver side is totally flush against the door with 0 gap.

soundman98 12-05-2020 02:50 AM

triple check that all there's not any rogue fasteners still stuck to the door panel between removal and reinstallation.. they can get in the way of reinstallation and cause a gap nearly the thickness you're describing.

cat94 12-05-2020 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3390659)
triple check that all there's not any rogue fasteners still stuck to the door panel between removal and reinstallation.. they can get in the way of reinstallation and cause a gap nearly the thickness you're describing.

This could be it. This says that 20 retainers are required (I assume for both sides). I counted 8 on the panel...

https://parts.stevenscreektoyota.com...U00302981.html

soundman98 12-05-2020 03:04 AM

and in case you need more for the one's that take a hike:
https://www.clipsandfasteners.com

beltax90 12-05-2020 03:11 AM

referencing an ebay pic helps. yes there should be ten

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/VcoAA...fk/s-l1600.jpg

and yes again, marking where the clips should be on other side with tape helps! should help with fitment

cat94 12-05-2020 03:20 AM

That was it! popped out the 2 stuck in the door and everything fits like a glove.

Thanks!

soundman98 12-05-2020 11:56 AM

glad to hear the re-fitment went gooder.

cat94 12-06-2020 07:17 PM

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So.. I must have overtightened the door handle screw and stripped the plastic threads because the bottom screw keeps spinning now and won't tighten.

Does anyone know what this part is called? I've been looking at parts diagrams trying to find the part number for a while now without much luck.

beltax90 12-06-2020 09:14 PM

fill it with glue to re-thread it? idk

soundman98 12-06-2020 09:18 PM

i believe these are the same thing. would need to confirm outer dimensions of the square size:

https://www.clipsandfasteners.com/To...e-p/a14271.htm

Wally86 12-07-2020 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3390615)
Fit.
The word is fit.
You do not add 'ment to the end of it.
It is just FIT.
"did you have any fit issues"

A fitment is a fixed item of furniture or piece of equipment, especially in a house it is not a replacement for fit.

This got me rummaging through google a LOT more than it should have. How fitting.

That said... I think I'll still use the word fitment. I thought "fit up" would be okay but that has an entirely different meaning.

How do the pants fit?
How's the fit on those pants?
How's the fitment on those pants?
Do the pants fitment?


:bonk::bellyroll::popcorn::cheers:

Tcoat 12-07-2020 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wally86 (Post 3391256)
This got me rummaging through google a LOT more than it should have. How fitting.

That said... I think I'll still use the word fitment. I thought "fit up" would be okay but that has an entirely different meaning.

How do the pants fit? Proper use
How's the fit on those pants? Proper use
How's the fitment on those pants? Why add 'ment?
Do the pants fitment? Still no ment needed


:bonk::bellyroll::popcorn::cheers:


There is only one definition for the word 'fitment'.
People are trying to make a verb by adding 'ment where the word fit is already the verb.
It is bad enough the stance crowd introduced this word but it is rapidly spreading to everything else.


fit·ment

/ˈfitmənt/

nounBritish

noun: fitment; plural noun: fitments
  1. a fixed item of furniture or piece of equipment, especially in a house

Wally86 12-07-2020 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3391258)
There is only one definition for the word 'fitment'.
People are trying to make a verb by adding 'ment where the word fit is already the verb.
It is bad enough the stance crowd introduced this word but it is rapidly spreading to everything else.


fit·ment

/ˈfitmənt/

nounBritish

noun: fitment; plural noun: fitments
  1. a fixed item of furniture or piece of equipment, especially in a house


https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fitment


Noun

fitment (plural fitments)
  1. (archaic) Something that suits or fits.


This reminds me of irregardless. Which is an archaic form of the word regardless... that happens to mean the exact same thing. :)

Tcoat 12-07-2020 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wally86 (Post 3391261)
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fitment


Noun

fitment (plural fitments)
  1. (archaic) Something that suits or fits.

This reminds me of irregardless. Which is an archaic form of the word regardless... that happens to mean the exact same thing. :)

Fie! well if 't be true we art going to useth fitment in the fusty english we needeth to useth all such w'rds.


'twill maketh f'r an int'resting f'rum

Wally86 12-07-2020 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3391262)
Fie! well if 't be true we art going to useth fitment in the fusty english we needeth to useth all such w'rds.


'twill maketh f'r an int'resting f'rum

Does this belong in the amish edition mod thread? lol :lol:

cat94 12-07-2020 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3391088)
i believe these are the same thing. would need to confirm outer dimensions of the square size:

https://www.clipsandfasteners.com/To...e-p/a14271.htm


Thanks! With some help of my local dealership, I was able to find the part # SU003-02591.




https://item-shopping.c.yimg.jp/i/l/...su003-02591-10

cat94 12-29-2020 09:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3391088)
i believe these are the same thing. would need to confirm outer dimensions of the square size:

https://www.clipsandfasteners.com/To...e-p/a14271.htm


I went to replace the clip the other day after driving around in the rain, and found that there was water in between the door and the plastic cover. Is this normal?


I did the drivers side afterwards, which to my knowledge has never been disassembled, and there was also water (a bit less than the passenger side). It seems a bit concerning, considering the wires & connectors that run through here.

soundman98 12-29-2020 11:33 PM

yes, that's why the plastic barrier is there. completely normal.

cat94 12-30-2020 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3396486)
yes, that's why the plastic barrier is there. completely normal.


Makes sense. Thank you


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