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hamish.frs 10-04-2020 01:29 PM

Car getting stuck in gear / not going into gear
 
Hello guys,

I have been having the issue of my car refusing to get into gear or when it does get into gear, it doesnt want to come out of that gear. This issue only happens when the car is fully stopped.

Things i have done to try to fix this issue:
- bled the clutch system
- adjusted the clutch pedal
- adjusted the reverse lock bracket-
- changed the transmission fluid
- changed to a brand new aftermarket clutch
- changed my clutch fork

Car drove fine for 2 weeks but yesterday i went for a super long drive and it came back. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks 🙏.

Sapphireho 10-04-2020 01:48 PM

What clutch?

hamish.frs 10-04-2020 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 3372788)
What clutch?

The previous clutch i had when the issue started was a ACT Stage 2 which was only 2k miles old. 2 weeks ago i changed to a southbend stage 2 endurance clutch and not even 200 miles in im having the same issue.

Spuds 10-04-2020 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hamish.frs (Post 3372787)
Hello guys,

I have been having the issue of my car refusing to get into gear or when it does get into gear, it doesnt want to come out of that gear. This issue only happens when the car is fully stopped.

Things i have done to try to fix this issue:
- bled the clutch system
- adjusted the clutch pedal
- adjusted the reverse lock bracket-
- changed the transmission fluid
- changed to a brand new aftermarket clutch
- changed my clutch fork

Car drove fine for 2 weeks but yesterday i went for a super long drive and it came back. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks 🙏.

Just clarifying, the list is all things you have done AFTER this issue first appeared right? So sequence of events was:

1. Car drove fine
2. Car stopped letting you shift out of the blue.
3. Then you did all that troubleshooting. (Did you do it all at once or tried one at a time?)
4. Car drove fine for 2 weeks until you went for a long drive.
5. The issue came back exactly as before.
6. You posted here.

Please let us know if that is incorrect or if there are before/after/between parts of the story I missed.

Also, are there any abnormal noises?

humfrz 10-04-2020 11:16 PM

Maybe your clutch cylinder or slave cylinder is bad?

hamish.frs 10-05-2020 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3372876)
Just clarifying, the list is all things you have done AFTER this issue first appeared right? So sequence of events was:

1. Car drove fine
2. Car stopped letting you shift out of the blue.
3. Then you did all that troubleshooting. (Did you do it all at once or tried one at a time?)
4. Car drove fine for 2 weeks until you went for a long drive.
5. The issue came back exactly as before.
6. You posted here.

Please let us know if that is incorrect or if there are before/after/between parts of the story I missed.

Also, are there any abnormal noises?

All of that information is correct. And for clarification for #3 yes i did do all that troubleshooting all at once. Thank you.

hamish.frs 10-05-2020 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3372877)
Maybe your clutch cylinder or slave cylinder is bad?

Next thing im going to swap is the clutch cylinder for sure. But i posted here to see if theres anything else there could be. My car is still fairly new it only has 20,000 miles so it would be weird if my cylinders were giving out so early.

humfrz 10-05-2020 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hamish.frs (Post 3372908)
Next thing im going to swap is the clutch cylinder for sure. But i posted here to see if theres anything else there could be. My car is still fairly new it only has 20,000 miles so it would be weird if my cylinders were giving out so early.

Seems like you have covered most of the basis. True, one wouldn't think either of those cylinders would be bad, but, you never know.

Back in the day, we NEVER had ANY problems with clutch cylinders.

This is a test to see iffen you're payen attention - know why didn't we have any problems???????????

I hope you get it sorted out.

Tcoat 10-05-2020 06:36 AM

Stock flywheel? Have you checked it's surface?

Spuds 10-05-2020 08:44 AM

Hmmm... Any chance the transmission is misaligned with the shifter? I know it's a pretty direct connection, so not much to go wrong there. Maybe just a bad transmission mount or something?

Hypothesis is that when you replaced the clutch you realigned everything correctly, but then something in your longer drive caused it to shift out of alignment.

...

It does seem like a classic clutch problem though. If you are in gear with the car off and start the car with the clutch pedal pressed, does it still start?

NoHaveMSG 10-05-2020 12:28 PM

Stock clutch fork?

hamish.frs 10-05-2020 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3372935)
Stock flywheel? Have you checked it's surface?

Yep, stock flywheel. Only 15k miles on em, surface is fine

hamish.frs 10-05-2020 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3372952)
Hmmm... Any chance the transmission is misaligned with the shifter? I know it's a pretty direct connection, so not much to go wrong there. Maybe just a bad transmission mount or something?

Hypothesis is that when you replaced the clutch you realigned everything correctly, but then something in your longer drive caused it to shift out of alignment.

...

It does seem like a classic clutch problem though. If you are in gear with the car off and start the car with the clutch pedal pressed, does it still start?

Doubt its misalligned, car shifts like butter in every gear till it randomly locks me out. And yes with the car in gear the car starts perfectly fine.

hamish.frs 10-05-2020 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3373020)
Stock clutch fork?

Verus forged clutch fork, only on for about 100 miles

churchx 10-05-2020 11:23 PM

hamish.frs: just a guess, in case if there is chance for problem to be like i had. It seemed to me randomly .. but there actually was system behind & reason for "random" lockouts of gears for me. Issue was reverse lockout adjustment plate, worn or misadjusted. Most of a time it allowed to switch gears just fine, but sometimes locked out. Took some time to notice exactly when that happens - when i tried to press gear lever more to left, to get into 1st & 2nd. Obviously, whenever i triggered, i often tried to press even stronger, to get in 1st or 2nd "for sure". When i guided it to left lightly, gears switched just fine. You can try same way to test that intentionally, if you can easily put in gear w/o strong press left, or cannot get in gear if press strong. If result same, most probably culprit same. But now you should know workaround for driving w/o locked out gear until you get time for shop/dealership visit, and ask for shop for fixing exact thing, align better reverse lockout plate.

RenegadeWRX 10-06-2020 12:45 PM

I've had some similar issues with my gear select getting stuck in reverse but with some persuasion it will go back to neutral. I also have issues going into any of the gears but not all the time it's kind of random like you said. If I give the shifter a little wiggle left and right it will line up and go into gear properly. The reverse lockout only makes the 1st and 2nd shift difficult if not setup properly it shouldn't affect my shifts into 3rd or other gears. I recently had an issue with my carrier pin went missing so I replaced the front shifter carrier bushings with the torque solution ones and the missing pin. I also installed the torque solution rear shifter bushing as well while I was in there and the torque solution short shifter as well. Figured while I had everything apart for the front carrier pin why not upgrade some things. I still have this issue after doing all those bushings.

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churchx 10-06-2020 02:58 PM

If in all gears, most common culprit is slight clutch drag.

RenegadeWRX 10-06-2020 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by churchx (Post 3373399)
If in all gears, most common culprit is slight clutch drag.

Thanks yeah that sounds like my issue since letting off the clutch and pushing it again usually solves the problem I didn't even think about clutch drag.

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stillslow93 10-19-2020 02:24 PM

Hamish. You replaced the clutch disk and pressure plate and have the same issue? I'm dealing with the same problem and have an act with lightweight flywheel. Do you have any vibrating issues with your transmission in neutral or once in gear? My shop is suggesting my transmission is the issue but I'm not convinced because when I'm stuck in gear the car is idling forward with the clutch pedal on the floor

NoHaveMSG 10-19-2020 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stillslow93 (Post 3376944)
Hamish. You replaced the clutch disk and pressure plate and have the same issue? I'm dealing with the same problem and have an act with lightweight flywheel. Do you have any vibrating issues with your transmission in neutral or once in gear? My shop is suggesting my transmission is the issue but I'm not convinced because when I'm stuck in gear the car is idling forward with the clutch pedal on the floor

Google "ACT clutch issues".

Captaininsaino 10-19-2020 03:05 PM

I had the same issues and tryed everything... I ended up buying a used transmission and had the gears cryogenic treatment and wpc treatment also used carbon fiber syncros that has solved everything I know most people don't want to put alot of money into this transmission but i really like this trany and with my clutch kit and treatment im in it about 2500 with my labor being free but I can say its perfect now and should hold more power im 280whp now and every shift is smooth as a highend german gear box now the carbon syncros are the biggest help thats what actually helps you get into gear

ML 10-21-2020 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3376951)
Google "ACT clutch issues".

beat me to it. ACT Clutches are known to do this. I have personally been dealing with it for about 20k miles.


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