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Chuckable 05-30-2020 03:03 PM

17x9 that checks all the boxes?
 
I’ve been looking for a wheel that checks all the boxes and was hoping the collective wisdom of the forum would help me with any wheels I’ve missed.

Here’s what I’m looking for:

17x9
Clears Stoptech ST40 calipers with 328x28mm rotors (similar in size to OEM Brembos)
20lbs or less
Offset range of +38 to +42
Max of about $325/wheel
Readily available in a silver, charcoal, gunmetal, silver or similar finish (because my car is black)
Replacements somewhat easy to source

So far I’ve found:

Apex ARC8
~ $240-$260/wheel
17.8lbs
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e94288f4c4.jpg

Enkei PF05
~ $315-$360/wheel
20 lbs as best as I can tell
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b4efba2423.jpg

SSR GTX01 (unknown brake clearance)
~ $350/wheel (center caps are extra $)
19lbs as best as I can tell
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...6159960402.jpg

Mach V Awesome
$250/wheel
18lbs
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...69da63ffe9.jpg


Rays 57CR (unknown brake clearance)
~ $320-$360+ (center caps are extra $)
About 19lbs as best as I can tell
HS Gunmetallic color is fairly hard to find
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...15bf733407.jpg


Anyone know of anything else?

Edit: I’m aware of 949 Racing 6UL and Konig but just don’t personally like the looks of them.

Thanks!


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Chuckable 05-30-2020 03:04 PM

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Here’s the Stoptech template


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Sgtfluffy16 05-30-2020 06:34 PM

hear me out.
I had Rota Titans. cleared my RR Racing stage 2 kit with Wilwood BBK. Used on the track, and great fitment with 255's

Chuckable 05-30-2020 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgtfluffy16 (Post 3336654)
hear me out.
I had Rota Titans. cleared my RR Racing stage 2 kit with Wilwood BBK. Used on the track, and great fitment with 255's


I hear you. From what I’ve researched the early stigma against Rota wheels has largely dissipated. They look a lot like the Wedsport TC105N.


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Sgtfluffy16 05-30-2020 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckable (Post 3336656)
I hear you. From what I’ve researched the early stigma against Rota wheels has largely dissipated. They look a lot like the Wedsport TC105N.


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I got so much shit from the all Mighty wheel gods who are on the Facebook groups about them. I had two sets of them, one set with track tires and the other set with street tires. I liked them, never had an issue with them, and actually about a pound lighter than the overplayed rpf1s

Chuckable 05-30-2020 06:55 PM

I’m open to all options that fit my list. Just want to learn about what’s out there.


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Buteo 05-30-2020 07:06 PM

949 6ul

Chuckable 05-30-2020 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buteo (Post 3336669)
949 6ul


Thanks. I updated the first post about that wheel. Just don’t like the looks too much. And when 949 confirmed that they are out of production, I took them off the lost.


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NoHaveMSG 05-30-2020 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckable (Post 3336576)
I’ve been looking for a wheel that checks all the boxes and was hoping the collective wisdom of the forum would help me with any wheels I’ve missed.

Here’s what I’m looking for:

17x9
Clears Stoptech ST40 calipers with 328x28mm rotors (similar in size to OEM Brembos)
20lbs or less
Offset range of +38 to +42
Max of about $325/wheel
Readily available in a silver, charcoal, gunmetal, silver or similar finish (because my car is black)
Replacements somewhat easy to source







Rays 57CR (unknown brake clearance)
~ $320-$360+ (center caps are extra $)
About 19lbs as best as I can tell
HS Gunmetallic color is fairly hard to find
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...15bf733407.jpg


The 57DR in that size clears so the CR should as well.

Chuckable 05-30-2020 08:13 PM

Thanks. But I haven’t been able to find the 57DR in silver or gray?


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EndlessAzure 05-30-2020 08:24 PM

57CR in HS Gunmetallic was an 86Speed color I believe, though I think by now other storefronts stock it (e.g. Kamispeed)

Chuckable 05-30-2020 08:37 PM

17x9 that checks all the boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EndlessAzure (Post 3336696)
57CR in HS Gunmetallic was an 86Speed color I believe, though I think by now other storefronts stock it (e.g. Kamispeed)


Thanks. I really like that style. But it’s out of stock everywhere I’ve checked and prices are $360+. Plus, no one has been able to confirm it will fit with the brake setup I have.


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NoHaveMSG 05-30-2020 09:06 PM

I am going to say it again. The 57DR CLEARS, so the 57CR should as well. If you want to double check this call a dealer that has both in stock in the same size and ask them how similar they are, as far as I can tell they are very similar and could even be same mold. The DR clears the ST40's by a lot, almsot 3/4's of an inch.

DarkPira7e 05-30-2020 09:10 PM

I just bought a set of the ARC-8. Every color except silver seems to be on backorder from the manufacturer, just an FYI. Best looking wheel in my opinion

Chuckable 05-30-2020 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3336713)
I just bought a set of the ARC-8. Every color except silver seems to be on backorder from the manufacturer, just an FYI. Best looking wheel in my opinion


You’re right, race silver is the only one in stock. I called them and spoke to Ryan. Super nice guy, and it’s nice to be able to actually get to speak to someone rather than email only like some companies.


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soundman98 05-30-2020 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgtfluffy16 (Post 3336663)
I got so much shit from the all Mighty wheel gods who are on the Facebook groups about them. I had two sets of them, one set with track tires and the other set with street tires. I liked them, never had an issue with them, and actually about a pound lighter than the overplayed rpf1s

though certain rota's are difficult to come by depending on a number of factors. the available wheel sizes/offsets on their site are nowhere near what is usually available from most distributors.

Chuckable 05-30-2020 11:23 PM

Anyone else have feedback?


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DarkSunrise 05-31-2020 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckable (Post 3336755)
Anyone else have feedback?


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Not sure what kind of feedback you're looking for, but I've got the Apex ARC-8 wheels. No spacers required to fit over RR Racing Stage 2 BBK. I've had no problems with them on the track or street. The finish on them is good, although not as durable as the finish on my other wheels (Wedssport TC105N).

One unique thing about Apex is they've got a lifetime warranty that covers track use. I've never had to use it, but it's nice knowing it's there. Apex is pretty well respected in the BMW track community so they've got some history behind them.

Chuckable 05-31-2020 08:39 AM

Thanks, DarkSunrise. Yes, the replacement wheel for $150 is a great feature. Your review echoes my friend’s, who has a BMW. He loves his ARC8s.


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Mike_ZN6 05-31-2020 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgtfluffy16 (Post 3336663)
I got so much shit from the all Mighty wheel gods who are on the Facebook groups about them. I had two sets of them, one set with track tires and the other set with street tires. I liked them, never had an issue with them, and actually about a pound lighter than the overplayed rpf1s


Are you sure Titans are lighter than RPF1s? A quick google search says Titan 17x9 is 17.8 lbs and RPF1 17x9 is 15.9 lbs.

PulsarBeeerz 05-31-2020 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike_ZN6 (Post 3336835)
Are you sure Titans are lighter than RPF1s? A quick google search says Titan 17x9 is 17.8 lbs and RPF1 17x9 is 15.9 lbs.


They are not, one of our members here weighed them on his YouTube channel at ~18.5llb for a 17x9 +42et. That still isn't bad for a knock off design but it represents a 2.5lb gain over the original.

Chuckable 05-31-2020 02:38 PM

Appreciate everyone’s input so far. The ARC8 appears to be the best combination, but still curious if anyone has any other ideas or contributions?


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tehShirt 05-31-2020 07:29 PM

Apex is releasing some new models in the near future, might be worth waiting to see what they release.

My only issue with the ARC8s is strut clearance. With the Sachs dampers and Continental DWS06 245/40/17 there is barely 5mm of clearance. I had to use camber plates to get negative camber up front. If you are on coilovers you should have plenty of space to use bolts if you need them.

Chuckable 05-31-2020 08:38 PM

17x9 that checks all the boxes?
 
You’re right. Thank you. I’ve already emailed and spoke with them about what’s coming. Among what’s coming are forged wheels, which are just out of my budget.

I noticed the same clearance issue with Koni struts and have since switched to RCE T2s.

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langjai23 06-03-2020 11:25 AM

hypergrams 17x9 +40 clear st40 calipers with about an inch of clearance. they also weigh in lighter than the arcs at 17.5 and are easy to order replacements online or at any discount tire.

Chuckable 06-03-2020 04:50 PM

Thanks for the recommendation on the Konig wheels. I personally prefer the styling of the ARC8, but you’re right that the Konig checks all the boxes.


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