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zakman16 01-10-2020 05:54 PM

why am i not shooting flames?
 
hi i have a 2013 brz i have and aftermarket catless header an invidia catless mid pipe and over pipe and an invidia n1 cat back and have an oft with a backfire tune and ive tried -7 all the way to -12 on my b timing and i still only get a popcorn sound and occasionally a small flame here and there does anyone know why or how to change that because everyone that ive seen online has the same tune and is able to shoot decent sized flames out the back?

p1l0t 01-10-2020 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by zakman16 (Post 3289471)
hi i have a 2013 brz i have and aftermarket catless header an invidia catless mid pipe and over pipe and an invidia n1 cat back and have an oft with a backfire tune and ive tried -7 all the way to -12 on my b timing and i still only get a popcorn sound and occasionally a small flame here and there does anyone know why or how to change that because everyone that ive seen online has the same tune and is able to shoot decent sized flames out the back?

You're not enough of a flamer. [emoji4][emoji91]

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JD001 01-10-2020 06:03 PM

Try installing a smaller gasoline tank in the trunk, stick a wee pipe, route it down towards your exhaust exit, wire up to a little button in the cockpit and bingo you will have flames at your fingertips!!

This does away with the uncertainty and anxiety that you are currently experiencing.

Feistyfrog 01-10-2020 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by zakman16 (Post 3289471)
hi i have a 2013 brz i have and aftermarket catless header an invidia catless mid pipe and over pipe and an invidia n1 cat back and have an oft with a backfire tune and ive tried -7 all the way to -12 on my b timing and i still only get a popcorn sound and occasionally a small flame here and there does anyone know why or how to change that because everyone that ive seen online has the same tune and is able to shoot decent sized flames out the back?

Your pipes are not big enough, you should flex them a little more. Also, more tattoos and a tank top should solve this. :lol:

Kids these days... :bonk:

zakman16 01-10-2020 06:14 PM

thanks for the trolling lmaoo

Feistyfrog 01-10-2020 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by zakman16 (Post 3289478)
thanks for the trolling lmaoo

Come on man, don't be so serious, you're the one who want to shoot flames from a "slow" naturally aspirated 2.0 litre lightweight sports car. When posting stuff like that you should know that we will have a little fun with you.

On a more serious note, I've done worst thing than that in my youth, so I'm not judging you (almost not). But since it's a mod that YOU won't even see while driving the car, you'll attract all sort of unwanted attention.

I'm sure someone here will be able to get you a proper answer here, but you will get more funny comments down the road...just don't get mad.

p1l0t 01-10-2020 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by zakman16 (Post 3289478)
thanks for the trolling lmaoo

Well since at least you have a good sense of humor I will tell you that one way is to run the car rich and then have spark plugs in the mufflers at the end. This is a way dumping gas out and burning it back their that's fairly contained/controlled.

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zakman16 01-10-2020 06:59 PM

how can i make/tune the car to run little more rich tho?

HaXx 01-10-2020 06:59 PM

ask some people on this thread:

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137617

if you ask the general population of weebs on the forum you wont get much, but dont be put off, theres plenty of us on here that are into modifications.

p1l0t 01-10-2020 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by zakman16 (Post 3289490)
how can i make/tune the car to run little more rich tho?

In a modern car you have to have a pro do it unless you want to get a tactrix cable and try your luck at doing your own mapping... and either way you will probably want to rent dyno time.

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zakman16 01-10-2020 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by p1l0t (Post 3289494)
In a modern car you have to have a pro do it unless you want to get a tactrix cable and try your luck at doing your own mapping... and either way you will probably want to rent dyno time.

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i have an open flash tablet which allows you to change and adjust basically anything you want thats why i was asking if anyone has done anything differently to achieve flames

p1l0t 01-10-2020 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by zakman16 (Post 3289496)
i have an open flash tablet which allows you to change and adjust basically anything you want thats why i was asking if anyone has done anything differently to achieve flames

I assume you can increase the length of time the injector is on? I'm sure you have to adjust timing and spark and other things to match that? I will turn a wrench a on my car but I don't mess with the computers.

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p1l0t 01-10-2020 07:14 PM

Or maybe fire the injector during or just before the exhaust cycle so it just sucks a little fuel out?

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NoHaveMSG 01-10-2020 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HaXx (Post 3289491)
ask some people on this thread:

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137617

if you ask the general population of weebs on the forum you wont get much, but dont be put off, theres plenty of us on here that are into modifications.

There are plenty of us into modifications that are not into these types of modifications. My car still has the stock catback because I like my neighbors and am not trying to attract unwanted attention. And I plan on driving Laguna Seca this year and they have strict sound restrictions, as do a few other tracks.

korhun 01-10-2020 07:21 PM

A shooting star is not a star. It's not a star at all.
https://media.tenor.com/images/8bc03...aaa8/tenor.gif

p1l0t 01-10-2020 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by korhun (Post 3289501)
A shooting star is not a star. It's not a star at all.

https://media.tenor.com/images/8bc03...aaa8/tenor.gif

Actually, you could just shoot sparks instead..

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DarkPira7e 01-10-2020 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HaXx (Post 3289491)

if you ask the general population of weebs on the forum you wont get much

Haha, you realize calling someone a "weeb" here is a completely out of context insult, right? Would you go on an anime forum and call people ricers?

NoHaveMSG 01-10-2020 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3289506)
Haha, you realize calling someone a "weeb" here is a completely out of context insult, right? Would you go on an anime forum and call people ricers?

I'm half Japanese at least :D Well, Okinawan. Close enough :iono:

zakman16 01-10-2020 07:48 PM

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAclUySGx4E"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAclUySGx4E[/ame]


this is my car currently

korhun 01-10-2020 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3289507)
I'm half Japanese at least :D Well, Okinawan. Close enough :iono:

[IMG]https://66.media.tumblr.com/9***b9ce99b6f309df230b46fdf40cff/tumblr_oh45vkQ6Ko1vf8rgjo4_400.gifv[/IMG]

:bow:

p1l0t 01-10-2020 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by zakman16 (Post 3289508)

Haha that's kinda cool I'm not gonna lie.

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NoHaveMSG 01-10-2020 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by korhun (Post 3289511)
[IMG]https://66.media.tumblr.com/9***b9ce99b6f309df230b46fdf40cff/tumblr_oh45vkQ6Ko1vf8rgjo4_400.gifv[/IMG]

:bow:

Around my parts I usually get this response :D


[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PdtdwkJ8uQ[/ame]

MuseChaser 01-10-2020 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by p1l0t (Post 3289513)
Haha that's kinda cool I'm not gonna lie.

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I had a reaction to that short clip, too, but it differed from yours. Mine was... well.... what's a good word meaning, "The complete and total opposite in every possible way?"

I am completely adverse to anything that screams "Look at me!!! Look at me!!" unless it's a very high level of skill earned though years of dedication or an act of great kindness done without trying to draw attention to one's self. Sooo... ummm.. yeah. I have a tough time in today's world.

Boomerang 01-10-2020 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by zakman16 (Post 3289490)
how can i make/tune the car to run little more rich tho?




You can modify your MAF scaling or Fuelling tables via Romraider/OFT to make it more rich, read up in the software tuning section and make sure you know what you are doing first.

p1l0t 01-10-2020 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MuseChaser (Post 3289521)
I had a reaction to that short clip, too, but it differed from yours. Mine was... well.... what's a good word meaning, "The complete and total opposite in every possible way?"



I am completely adverse to anything that screams "Look at me!!! Look at me!!" unless it's a very high level of skill earned though years of dedication or an act of great kindness done without trying to draw attention to one's self. Sooo... ummm.. yeah. I have a tough time in today's world.

I wouldn't do it to mine since it's my daily driver... if it was one of my OTHER cars... maybe.

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KR-S 01-10-2020 09:19 PM

Surprised this thread hasn't gone to shit yet.

I won't be the last person to tell you that you're going to exhaust (no pun intended) more effort than it's worth. You're risking causing engine damage to your car because you want matchbox flames popping out of your car. Think about that for a second.

Oh well, it's all up to you OP. Not my car, not my concern.

MuseChaser 01-10-2020 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by p1l0t (Post 3289536)
I wouldn't do it to mine since it's my daily driver... if it was one of my OTHER cars... maybe.

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If I never drove in an area where another person was present or within earshot,
or if I did and was incredibly rude, or if I liked the sound, or if I liked wasting gas, I'd consider it, too. I don't, I'm not, I don't, and I don't... soo... lol... yeah, I don't get it.

My ideal high performance car would look like and be as practical as my E36 325i was, with the handling of my FRS, the sound of our Lexus LX470, and a ton of incredibly responsive power. Totally silent and no one would know by looking what exactly the car was capable of. The one thing I DISLIKE about the FRS is the way it looks. It's an eye-catching, attractive, aggressive looking car. I DON'T like that. If I could have found another rear-wheel drive, manual tranmission car that handled this well for the same money that looked more understated, I would have bought it, but I couldn't.

Every time I pull up in my car and someone asks me if I'm going through a middle age crisis, it rumples my feathers. Ain't no crisis.. I've been driving cars like this for my entire life. The only crisis is that, now, it LOOKS like I am. Grrrrr.....

Boomerang 01-10-2020 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MuseChaser (Post 3289545)
If I never drove in an area where another person was present or within earshot,
or if I did and was incredibly rude, or if I liked the sound, or if I liked wasting gas, I'd consider it, too. I don't, I'm not, I don't, and I don't... soo... lol... yeah, I don't get it.

My ideal high performance car would look like and be as practical as my E36 325i was, with the handling of my FRS, the sound of our Lexus LX470, and a ton of incredibly responsive power. Totally silent and no one would know by looking what exactly the car was capable of. The one thing I DISLIKE about the FRS is the way it looks. It's an eye-catching, attractive, aggressive looking car. I DON'T like that. If I could have found another rear-wheel drive, manual tranmission car that handled this well for the same money that looked more understated, I would have bought it, but I couldn't.

Every time I pull up in my car and someone asks me if I'm going through a middle age crisis, it rumples my feathers. Ain't no crisis.. I've been driving cars like this for my entire life. The only crisis is that, now, it LOOKS like I am. Grrrrr.....






Sounds like you need a "sleeper" car then..






https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FlatDemand...er-max-1mb.gif

KR-S 01-10-2020 09:38 PM

In spite of how reluctant I am to post this information, here's a link:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61069

And a video:

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISkRrK8P1c8[/ame]

You can start from there.

soundman98 01-10-2020 09:53 PM

i suggest feeding your car some authentic mexican hot sauce.

always works for me.

p1l0t 01-10-2020 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MuseChaser (Post 3289545)
If I never drove in an area where another person was present or within earshot,
or if I did and was incredibly rude, or if I liked the sound, or if I liked wasting gas, I'd consider it, too. I don't, I'm not, I don't, and I don't... soo... lol... yeah, I don't get it.

My ideal high performance car would look like and be as practical as my E36 325i was, with the handling of my FRS, the sound of our Lexus LX470, and a ton of incredibly responsive power. Totally silent and no one would know by looking what exactly the car was capable of. The one thing I DISLIKE about the FRS is the way it looks. It's an eye-catching, attractive, aggressive looking car. I DON'T like that. If I could have found another rear-wheel drive, manual tranmission car that handled this well for the same money that looked more understated, I would have bought it, but I couldn't.

Every time I pull up in my car and someone asks me if I'm going through a middle age crisis, it rumples my feathers. Ain't no crisis.. I've been driving cars like this for my entire life. The only crisis is that, now, it LOOKS like I am. Grrrrr.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomerang (Post 3289549)
Sounds like you need a "sleeper" car then..






https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FlatDemand...er-max-1mb.gif

He would love my 2005 Subaru wagon (full JDM STi swap twin scroll, 6 SPD no overdrive nvidia Q300 QUIET exhaust) Sleeper city no hood scoop even

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Will BRZ 01-10-2020 10:56 PM

Already a 1 star thread lmao that’s funny

cliff 01-11-2020 12:08 PM

Please excuse my ignorance,but I don't understand why a person would want to do this. Is this the sports car version of the very large loud big tired pick ups that some people drive in order to call attention to themselves? When I am driving with my wife and we get behind one of these attention whores she always has an explanation for the reason. I won't say it here but she says "why would a man want to advertise that". The ladies know what I'm talking about.

soundman98 01-11-2020 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cliff (Post 3289659)
First please excuse my ignorance. Why would you or anyone want to do this? Is the sports car version of people who drive huge loud pickups with big tires. My wife always has a statement she makes when she sees something like this which is not a complement. the ladies know what I'm talking about. She says why advertise suck a telling fact.

attention, being something else. there's entire genre's of media that portray similar.

instead of aspiring to be something else, act like that something else and gloss over the details.

Ultramaroon 01-11-2020 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakman16 (Post 3289508)

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1l0t (Post 3289513)
Haha that's kinda cool I'm not gonna lie.

*giggle* Yeah.


Feel bad for the neighbors, tho. It'd be fun for a few minutes.

NoHaveMSG 01-11-2020 04:12 PM

I was at the track one day and there was a V6 Genesis holding up myself, and the Porsche ahead of me. It would backfire on decel so loud I could feel it in my car. I thought I had lost a DI seal or something :)

zakman16 01-12-2020 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KR-S 86 (Post 3289551)
In spite of how reluctant I am to post this information, here's a link:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61069

And a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISkRrK8P1c8

You can start from there.

ive seen this video and done -7 all the way to -15 and i dont seem to find much of a difference i get pops but no flames, ( i dont want massive ones just a little more rich of a tune then i have rn) thats why i asked if anyone knew how to change that or hot to safely adjust the fuel to run the car a little more rich

zakman16 01-12-2020 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3289706)
*giggle* Yeah.


Feel bad for the neighbors, tho. It'd be fun for a few minutes.

its controllable it only happens over 2k rpm and when i want it to, theres a small dead spot in the pedal and i just hold it there to make it pop

Capt Spaulding 01-12-2020 04:48 PM

LMAO Flames. In days gone by when cars had carburetors, coils, points, and condensers I spent hours trying to get them to STOP popping and shooting flames.

Flames ----:bellyroll:

JD001 01-12-2020 04:59 PM

Scotch bonnets may help...


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