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SamtheKorean 12-17-2019 12:04 AM

Need help extracting drain plug...
 
so i bet everyone had this kind of situation before, stripped or rounded nuts or bolts. over the weekend I decided to do an oil change it was lil bit rounded to start with but i only had 12points 14mm for 1/2 drive so just said f@#k it and used it. welp it didn’t end well, i’ve ordered fumoto valve for future oil changes but for my stuck drain bolt should i pick up a 14mm 6 point socket or bolt extractor special tool? just trying to see what y’all can add or give me some tips.

NoHaveMSG 12-17-2019 12:28 AM

First thing I would try is getting a 6pt and hammering it onto the bolt till it is fully seated. Don't jerk on the ratchet, just gradly increase pressure. That thing shouldn't be so tight that it won't come off that way. Your next bet is going to be a big set of vice grips. Good luck.

soundman98 12-17-2019 12:30 AM

i'd go the bolt extractor route. usually the quickest.

but it won't get it to tighten back on...

qqzj 12-17-2019 01:28 AM

If you can get a good grip, a big channel lock or vice grip might work. Otherwise, left-hand bolt extractor is the best

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alan.chalkley 12-17-2019 02:34 AM

I had the same problem after "talented dealer technicians" performed oil changes for six years.
The solution was to gently tap a six point socket over the oil drain bolt and carefully use a long handle for more torque.
Use a new crush washer and use a torque wrench to replace it.

asdf 12-17-2019 02:38 AM

Bolt out/damaged bolt removers should do the trick if you’re ok with buying some new tools to add to your collection

https://m.sears.com/craftsman-10-pc-...SABEgJxa_D_BwE

https://c.shld.net/rpx/i/s/i/spin/im...ei=500&wid=500

humfrz 12-17-2019 03:10 AM

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Here ya go - :thumbsup:

OR, Bubba suggests you take a cold chisel and a big fucking hammer and cut into and hammer on the side of the plug, in a counterclockwise direction, till it loosens up (since you ain't gonna use it no more anyway).


humfrz

YamahaR86 12-17-2019 11:06 AM

Everyone has good suggestions already.


Remove that splash panel if you haven't for more access. I'd use big vice grips first, then hammer on the 6 point with a long breaker bar. I personally haven't used those socket extractors yet but they look promising. I did try to use the drill bit extractors for smaller bolts but that didn't work.

SamtheKorean 12-17-2019 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3283722)
First thing I would try is getting a 6pt and hammering it onto the bolt till it is fully seated. Don't jerk on the ratchet, just gradly increase pressure. That thing shouldn't be so tight that it won't come off that way. Your next bet is going to be a big set of vice grips. Good luck.

picking up a 6point socket today and hope for the best, already tried huge channel lock for pluming but still couldn’t get it.. maybe vice grip is better after all

chickunfut 12-17-2019 12:21 PM

Turn it the other way...

YamahaR86 12-17-2019 12:26 PM

Yeah, think you're going to need something with more bite or longer handle like a breaker bar/extending ratchet for the torque since it's on there tight.

SamtheKorean 12-17-2019 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chickunfut (Post 3283813)
Turn it the other way...

i know lefty loose righty tighty haha but i did try going the opposite direction just in case if the bolt was frozen frozen stuck

SamtheKorean 12-17-2019 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by YamahaR86 (Post 3283814)
Yeah, think you're going to need something with more bite or longer handle like a breaker bar/extending ratchet for the torque since it's on there tight.

i have a 15in breaker bar but harbor freight opened up in local location so i’m picking up 25in breaker as well.👍

NoHaveMSG 12-17-2019 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SamtheKorean (Post 3283820)
i have a 15in breaker bar but harbor freight opened up in local location so i’m picking up 25in breaker as well.👍

That should do it, gradually increase pressure. Watch the socket, if you see it start turning and the base of the bolt head isn't moving I would stop. Best to go to an extractor at that point.

SamtheKorean 12-17-2019 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3283823)
That should do it, gradually increase pressure. Watch the socket, if you see it start turning and the base of the bolt head isn't moving I would stop. Best to go to an extractor at that point.

honestly if that doesn’t work i’m gonna do an oil change through dipstick tube hole😂😂😂

humfrz 12-17-2019 03:07 PM

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honestly if that doesn’t work i’m gonna do an oil change through dipstick tube hole😂😂😂

Bubba's last resort.

First make sure your auto insurance is paid up, then move your car way down the driveway then heat up the area around the bolt with the torch.

:popcorn:


humfrz

SamtheKorean 12-17-2019 06:13 PM

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reminds me of this meme

soundman98 12-17-2019 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by YamahaR86 (Post 3283792)
Everyone has good suggestions already.


Remove that splash panel if you haven't for more access. I'd use big vice grips first, then hammer on the 6 point with a long breaker bar. I personally haven't used those socket extractors yet but they look promising. I did try to use the drill bit extractors for smaller bolts but that didn't work.

i've used them on my older truck a couple times for rotted out fasteners. they've always worked. but those were fasteners that were properly torqued, not over-torqued...

highway7 12-18-2019 01:17 PM

6 point


Then remove splash panel and use vice grips


How did you manage to round off the bolt? Unless the 12 pt wasn't on properly?

gravitylover 12-20-2019 12:45 PM

Hammering on a steel bolt that's threaded into aluminum may turn out poorly ;) I can picture cracking the oil pan and causing a whole other, much more expensive problem. Get the bolt extractor and be nice to it.

NoHaveMSG 12-20-2019 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gravitylover (Post 3284691)
Hammering on a steel bolt that's threaded into aluminum may turn out poorly ;) I can picture cracking the oil pan and causing a whole other, much more expensive problem. Get the bolt extractor and be nice to it.

The lower pan is steel.

Ultramaroon 12-20-2019 03:45 PM

Sorry I missed this thread until now. I think a small pipe wrench has potential here.

soundman98 12-20-2019 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by highway7 (Post 3284098)
6 point


Then remove splash panel and use vice grips


How did you manage to round off the bolt? Unless the 12 pt wasn't on properly?

it could be a harbor freight 12pt, which i'm convinced are 1/32 oversized.

i don't believe i've ever successfully removed any fasteners with my 12pt harbor freight set. i've rounded most of them off... which is half the sockets i own. the other half are 6pt harbor freights...

BirdTRD 12-20-2019 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3284817)
it could be a harbor freight 12pt, which i'm convinced are 1/32 oversized.

i don't believe i've ever successfully removed any fasteners with my 12pt harbor freight set. i've rounded most of them off... which is half the sockets i own. the other half are 6pt harbor freights...

I hope you've learned something here...

soundman98 12-20-2019 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BirdTRD (Post 3284820)
I hope you've learned something here...

yes. buy extra's so i have something to tide me over till i can get them warrantied!

have you priced out sockets?!? i already sold the liver and a testicle for the tool box... the matco guy said he only accepts payments now in the form of first born's. i don't have any kids, therefore, i'm not getting any new sockets.

SamtheKorean 12-20-2019 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by highway7 (Post 3284098)
6 point


Then remove splash panel and use vice grips


How did you manage to round off the bolt? Unless the 12 pt wasn't on properly?

yeah 12 points socket and wasn’t sitting properly :clap:

SamtheKorean 12-20-2019 09:23 PM

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I finally got all the tools so tomorrow morning i’m attacking that sucka bolt. if nothing works out ill put my baby up for sale lol

SamtheKorean 12-20-2019 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3284835)
yes. buy extra's so i have something to tide me over till i can get them warrantied!

have you priced out sockets?!? i already sold the liver and a testicle for the tool box... the matco guy said he only accepts payments now in the form of first born's. i don't have any kids, therefore, i'm not getting any new sockets.

that’s me tho when i’m purchasing race car parts “y’all take kidney as a payment?”

humfrz 12-21-2019 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamtheKorean (Post 3284837)
I finally got all the tools so tomorrow morning i’m attacking that sucka bolt. if nothing works out ill put my baby up for sale lol

It might have been cheaper and less time consuming just to get a new oil pan - :iono:


humfrz

soundman98 12-21-2019 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3284889)
It might have been cheaper and less time consuming just to get a new oil pan - :iono:


humfrz

but getting new tools is always more fun!

SamtheKorean 12-21-2019 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3284889)
It might have been cheaper and less time consuming just to get a new oil pan - :iono:


humfrz

Finished the oil change this morning, took me 15mins. didn’t even need the special tool the bolt extractor.. love the 6points and 25in breaker bar.

humfrz 12-21-2019 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamtheKorean (Post 3284948)
Finished the oil change this morning, took me 15mins. didn’t even need the special tool the bolt extractor.. love the 6points and 25in breaker bar.

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Like they say in the old country - "the right tool for the right job"


;)


humfrz

SamtheKorean 12-21-2019 08:19 PM

btw thanks everyone for inputs. any small tips were helpful to me, it’s amazing to know how good of a community we have for brz/get/frs owners. :thanks:

highway7 01-25-2020 06:18 PM

As well order a new drain plug from the dealership and put it on the next oil change.


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