Wheel Directory: WedsSport TC105N 17x8.0 +42
 

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As the title says, WedsSport TC105n in a 17x8+42 square fitment. They're wrapped in 235/40-17 Yokohama Advan AD08 tires.

My camera has a tough time around twilight (both the time of day and the movies, but don't we all?) so these pics aren't all that great. I'll try to get more tomorrow before the sun goes down again.

These are Titanium Silver. I like the color a lot more than I thought I would. It's not as bright as a regular silver rim, so they look good on a black car.

The tires are HUGE. I'll be making another thread about the variances in tire sizing with pics HERE.

(Added by mod: wheel weight is 14.85 lbs each)

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Some fitment pics,
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Front:
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Wow, the more I see 17's the more I like them on these cars. How much clearance do you have between the front tire and strut? Looks great BTW. :)

Thanks,
Rick

Great choice

You know, I forgot to check. I'm sure it's plenty. There was no rubbing driving it in and out of my complex or doing Ses down the road to scrub the release agent off the tires.

Thanks. I took WAY longer than usual to settle on a wheel for this car and I wasn't sure I was going to like the color. But them more I look at them, the more I like them. I hope to get better pictures soon.

Awesome wheels and thanks for sharing! I am going with exact same size but in black.

Those wheels look really nice and I like the color contrast of them. :thumbsup:

damn it!!! if they were bronze i'd be sending you a paypal right now!


Justin

7mm less clearance between strut and WHEEL. How close his tire is to the strut is another story, though. I can't calculate that.

Looks great! Been taking a seriously look at almost the same wheel - 18x8 +42.

You guys got me thinking about the clearance so I went out to check. I have plenty, I can fit my fingers between the tire and spring perch. No worries.

They look awesome dude! :thumbsup:

I want them... but 17" x 9" all around.

Thanks for sharing! I've been debating on these same ones or advan rz/rs's with a square or staggered setup. I don't want to change the balance of the car and being able to rotate tires are a huge plus, so I was leaning towards square. If going staggered 17x8 front and 17x8.5 or 9 rear, would it upset the balance much?

Did ya test full lock, both directions? Full droop? Full compression? Not that I'm concerned, just being thorough.

There's more to it than sticking your finger in it ;)

Enough to notice at an AutoX, but not in daily driving.

Well it was at full lock when I checked it. If we're talking about strut clearance, that's not going to change with a Macpherson strut design.

If we're talking about fender clearance, I had it at full lock to pull into the spot where I took the photos and there was no rubbing. The tires should be fine. I think nearly full lock and full compression might come close to rubbing, but I don't have a good way to test that and I'll rarely if ever encounter a situation like that.

Dude, just open the door and jump on the door sill repeatedly. ;)


Actually, strut clearance could change with tire deformation under cornering with compression, no?

Bias ply tires will, but not radials. These tires especially not as they actually have steel inserts in the sidewalls.

The more you know.

A couple more cell pics while I'm at work:
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Those wheels are awesome and perfect size. I might have to reconsider these.

Just gotta do something about that fender gap..

Help me RaceComp Engineering!

So torn between these and the OZ Ultraleggeras in 17x8 - these are 2 pounds lighter but almost 600$ more for the set. More pictures are needed. :w00t:

Fitment looks excellent man! Coils will make it look amazing. Great job!!

I am really liking these wheels. If only I could do hubcentric rings and center caps at the same time.

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Aaaaaand.... needs more low.

Looks great. It's a bit hard to tell...do the fronts poke a little? The +42 looks pretty perfect on the 8" wheel.

Ok for a wheel newb can you explain the need for hub centric rings...and can you not use both rings and center caps?

The fronts don't poke, the fender overhangs the tire by a very small amount.

Hubcentric rings fit between the wheel and a raised lip around the center of the hub. Using a hubcentric wheel or rings directs forces acting on the wheel to be transferred directly to the hub rather than the lugs. It a stronger way to mount the wheel than just the lugs.

As for using rings and caps together, normally you can. But from what I understand, these particular wheels are milled in such a way that it is one or the other, but not both.

DAMNNN!! Nice choice of wheel.. lightweight and GOOD LOOKS.
Here is a guy who has great taste!! :bellyroll:

If your after hubcentric rings and caps check out perfectrun.jp

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They also carry the AL-type allow racing nuts too(each nut weighs the same as a AA battery)

+1. Otherwise looks amazing. LOVE the wheels & LOVE black BRZ's

Looking great @Draco-REX, what's the weight on these badboys?

I don't have a good scale so I can't give you a real-world weight. But the manufacturer's listed weight is 6.75kg (14.85lbs). They do feel like it too. I pulled one out of the box and was waving it around one-handed. :D

Of the ~15lb wheels under $500 I think this is the best looking one. It was a little out of my budget, but the weight plus the looks sold it to me. I even ended up liking the color too.

Those look great!

Added to the Wheel Directory:
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Draco, any comment on how they alter the handling?

Looking at possibly going with this exact combo on my 86. Happy to up the overall grip but I really don't want to tinker with the stock handling feel and balance too much if you know what I mean.

Notice any change to the character of the car's handling?

It's a huge improvement with very little change in the character of the car at 8/10 and below.

However, when really pushed, things change. Not necessarily in a bad way though. WHat happens is you become aware of how tires and suspension need to compliment each other.

With the stock setup from the factory the car is fantastic and the tires are grippy enough for fun cornering. As you approach 9/10ths and greater performance, the stock tires begin to break away in an easy and predictable manner. The amount of lateral load they can generate is only so much, so the alignment and suspension is set up to compliment that.

Now put on some much stickier tires. Suddenly the lateral forces the tires can generate get much higher. At 8/10s and below, the tricks you can go to get a little wiggle out of the car still work and the car is essentially unchanged except for higher cornering speeds. At 9/10ths the greater grip lets you transfer more weight. This, in turn, causes more body roll. More body roll means the 0 camber up front goes WAY positive and you loose front grip.

With the new tires I could drive the car like stock with plenty of on-throttle oversteer and wonderfully neutral handling as long as I kept the car below the point where the front tires began to scrub. Breakaway at the rear is still easy to catch, but the "plateau" where oversteer begins is noticeably narrower which is expected from grippier tires.

But, understeer is like a light switch. Once the front lets go, the car continues to understeer and punching the throttle does not shift the car to oversteer. Instead you just continue to push wider. So the trick is to stay just within the front tire's grip. Otherwise you have to back off the throttle, shift weight to the front with a tap of the brakes if lifting isn't enough and unwind the steering wheel a bit to get front grip back. But once you get it back, you can literally yank the car back on line.

Now, this isn't the end of the world. A good alignment and a little more roll stiffness (through stiffer springs or larger sway bars) should let this car explore 10/10ths and keep the balance we love so much. I have the RCE Suspension Starter Kit going on this week. That should take care of what I'm experiencing and unlock the upper 10ths. This car with good tires has amazing levels of grip. I can't wait to see what happens with a good alignment.

These are nice, you are making me rethink my wheel game....

20mm less fender gap by this weekend. :D I think the fat tires will make it look even lower.

can't wait to see it after the drop!

That's at stock height? That looks great!

Yup. 100% stock suspension.

Tires look beefy. Nice setup