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hestekinj 05-13-2019 06:47 PM

Konig Dekagram 17x8 +40
 
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Noticed there weren't too many photos available of the Dekagrams on the brz so I thought I'd upload a few photos. They are 17x8 +40 on stock suspension. Tires are Continental Extreme contact sport 225 45r17. Konig lists the wheels as 16.83lbs. Let me know if you have any questions!

eastendraceshop 05-13-2019 06:51 PM

The wheels and tires look great! :happyanim:

Now she just needs a drop!

Leonardo 05-13-2019 07:33 PM

Those Konigs look nice on your BRZ. There really isn't a better deal on decently lightweight wheels! :cheers:

hestekinj 05-13-2019 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by eastendraceshop (Post 3217293)
The wheels and tires look great! :happyanim:

Now she just needs a drop!

True! That's the next major purchase in addition to a flex fuel sensor/tune!

hestekinj 05-13-2019 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo (Post 3217307)
Those Konigs look nice on your BRZ. There really isn't a better deal on decently lightweight wheels! :cheers:

Agreed! I love the look of them, they're lightweight, affordable and from a reputable brand. That's a tough combo to find!

Clutch Dog 05-14-2019 03:49 PM

Im a huge fan of the movement Konig has been working on, they've really pushed to get their name out there, and I like em a lot. Ill probably get a 17x8 when the time comes for really sticky rubber, ill retire my 18x8 to street duty

warhawk03 05-27-2019 05:41 PM

Konig lists these at 16.83 lbs, did you get a chance to weigh them before mounting to see how close the specs are? I'm curious if these would meet the SCCA Solo Spec Coupe rules. 17 lb minimum for a 17x8.

Buteo 05-27-2019 10:41 PM

Will these clear the brembo brakes from the performance package?

timurrrr 06-06-2019 02:53 PM

Sadly, Konig Dekagram 17x8 +40 will NOT clear BRZ Performance Package Brembos.

It will touch the edge of the caliper that's closest to the hub.
See the black scratch from the wheel on the caliper on the photo below.

A 3mm spacer might be enough, but I didn't have one to try, and I personally don't want to use spacers.

https://i.imgur.com/FomFgXZ.jpg

Brock H. 06-16-2019 10:51 PM

Any chance to see if these wheels will clear the AP Sprint BBK?

Will BRZ 08-19-2019 07:03 PM

This size looks so good on stock suspension. I’m sure it would look even better with a minimal drop. Do you, or anyone else, have more pictures of this wheel on the car? I’m really debating between 9 and 8 width for this wheel. I’d really like the 8s for weight savings and 225 tires, but I don’t want the face to change like with RPF1s. Thanks

Vital 08-20-2019 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Will BRZ (Post 3249434)
This size looks so good on stock suspension. I’m sure it would look even better with a minimal drop. Do you, or anyone else, have more pictures of this wheel on the car? I’m really debating between 9 and 8 width for this wheel. I’d really like the 8s for weight savings and 225 tires, but I don’t want the face to change like with RPF1s. Thanks

So, i have this wheel in 17x8 on 245/40/17 and lowered on RCE Yellows. I think it looks great and very OEM+ and functional. If i had do it again i'd just go 17x9 because with the 8" wheel rear with the drop it is slightly sunk in. Regardless i still love the way it looks. I can try to get you pictures later.

Will BRZ 08-20-2019 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Vital (Post 3249621)
So, i have this wheel in 17x8 on 245/40/17 and lowered on RCE Yellows. I think it looks great and very OEM+ and functional. If i had do it again i'd just go 17x9 because with the 8" wheel rear with the drop it is slightly sunk in. Regardless i still love the way it looks. I can try to get you pictures later.

Yeah pictures would be great because Im going for a similar setup thanks. I just feel like the 9s would poke a little bit. I’d rather it be sunken in a bit than to poke

Vital 08-20-2019 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Will BRZ (Post 3249646)
Yeah pictures would be great because Im going for a similar setup thanks. I just feel like the 9s would poke a little bit. I’d rather it be sunken in a bit than to poke

It'll definitely poke if you stay stock and it'll look bad too massive 4x4 status lol. The problem with 9" and stock struts up front is that its too close to the spring perch. The rears will have no issue of course. Now, you remedy the poke by adding camber, but i honestly dont think you'll be able to run much camber if any with that size wheel, tire, and that offset. If you are thinking about lowering definitely get some camber bolts for the front though.

timurrrr 08-20-2019 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vital (Post 3249621)
So, i have this wheel in 17x8 on 245/40/17 and lowered on RCE Yellows. I think it looks great and very OEM+ and functional. If i had do it again i'd just go 17x9 because with the 8" wheel rear with the drop it is slightly sunk in. Regardless i still love the way it looks. I can try to get you pictures later.

Please do post pics! For 17x8 I'd recommend using 225/45 instead of 245/40 though.

As for how 17x9 looks, there's a different thread for that:
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134142

Will BRZ 08-20-2019 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vital (Post 3249672)
It'll definitely poke if you stay stock and it'll look bad too massive 4x4 status lol. The problem with 9" and stock struts up front is that its too close to the spring perch. The rears will have no issue of course. Now, you remedy the poke by adding camber, but i honestly dont think you'll be able to run much camber if any with that size wheel, tire, and that offset. If you are thinking about lowering definitely get some camber bolts for the front though.

Thanks yeah I’ve seen the lifted BRZs haha I’ll definitely be lowering it with springs and adding camber bolts at the same time that I get the wheels mounted. If I absolutely have to, I’ll get LCA in the future, but honestly minimal, natural camber is fine (I think I’ve seen like 1.5 to 2 degrees all around)

timurrrr 08-20-2019 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Will BRZ (Post 3249740)
... I’ll definitely be lowering it with springs and adding camber bolts at the same time that I get the wheels mounted...

The problem with 17x9 +40 is that you might not have enough clearance from the suspension strut in the front to get any significant camber with camber bolts.

Will BRZ 08-20-2019 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by timurrrr (Post 3249765)
The problem with 17x9 +40 is that you might not have enough clearance from the suspension strut in the front to get any significant camber with camber bolts.

Oh okay thanks. Guess I’ll go with the 8s if I go with the Dekagrams. Thanks for the info

Vital 08-20-2019 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Will BRZ (Post 3249646)
Yeah pictures would be great because Im going for a similar setup thanks. I just feel like the 9s would poke a little bit. I’d rather it be sunken in a bit than to poke

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Originally Posted by timurrrr (Post 3249703)
Please do post pics! For 17x8 I'd recommend using 225/45 instead of 245/40 though

Yes, i've read all about the 225/45 vs 245/40 i've not experienced any ill effects of using that tire size. Personally i think its all subjective. Anyway, here are the pics sorry im a n00b and dont really know how to upload pics... Hopefully this helps others to see the with fitment with an approx. 1" drop.

https://i.imgur.com/oJGIhSb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lAIf99x.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TQ3T7fH.jpg

Will BRZ 08-20-2019 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vital (Post 3249964)
Yes, i've read all about the 225/45 vs 245/40 i've not experienced any ill effects of using that tire size. Personally i think its all subjective. Anyway, here are the pics sorry im a n00b and dont really know how to upload pics... Hopefully this helps others to see the with fitment with an approx. 1" drop.

https://imgur.com/oJGIhSb
https://imgur.com/lAIf99x
https://imgur.com/TQ3T7fH

Wow that looks really good dude. Better than I thought honestly. Anything else other than springs? Would you happen to know the camber specs? Seems like the 245 fill up the wheel well pretty well and I would imagine it’s comfortable too. Maybe a 235 tire would be a happy medium. Thanks man that really helps my hunt lol

Vital 08-21-2019 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Will BRZ (Post 3249969)
Wow that looks really good dude. Better than I thought honestly. Anything else other than springs? Would you happen to know the camber specs? Seems like the 245 fill up the wheel well pretty well and I would imagine it’s comfortable too. Maybe a 235 tire would be a happy medium. Thanks man that really helps my hunt lol

Thanks man! Yep, just springs on stock shocks for now. Camber bolts up front and rear lower control arms thats it. Yes my camber up front is -1.6 and the rears are -1.4 with slight toe-in. The 245/40 fit pretty nice in the wheel wells once lowered, but having lower offset will help too. I think ride comfort some what depends on the aspect ratio of the tire as well generally lower profile tires will not get you a comfortable ride.


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