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rAySiiAnN 01-28-2019 09:47 AM

Plz help :( my car wont start after replacing ignition coil pack 😭😭😭😭😭
 
My car was throwing p0351 codes so i went to change the ignition coil. Afterwards i tried to start it n it started up for like 1 second n stalled out really hard lol im guessing cil 1 wont fire but idk why. i put back the old coil pack and still nothing. I tries to change the spark plugs but i got the wrong size socket, maybe touching the spark plug did something? I thought the issue was the coil pack not being bolted tight enough and fortunately i snapped the bolt :( might as well ask for help while i wait for my stripped bolt to be removed

Brz_racer 01-28-2019 10:31 AM

Sounds like you got bigger issues, the spark plug is a 14mm deep well btw. Did you check the main fuse at the battery to see if you blew it?

celek 01-28-2019 10:33 AM

what spark plugs did you put in?
Also there was a rash of bad engine harnesses related to coil pack problems in 2013-14
what year is your car?

Brz_racer 01-28-2019 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by celek (Post 3178518)
what spark plugs did you put in?

It sounds like he never actually changed it

celek 01-28-2019 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Brz_racer (Post 3178519)
It sounds like he never actually changed it

I see that he tried but not succeeded

rAySiiAnN 01-28-2019 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Brz_racer (Post 3178517)
Sounds like you got bigger issues, the spark plug is a 14mm deep well btw. Did you check the main fuse at the battery to see if you blew it?

The main fuse seems to be ok. It was running fine until i took out the ignition coil :(

rAySiiAnN 01-28-2019 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celek (Post 3178518)
what spark plugs did you put in?
Also there was a rash of bad engine harnesses related to coil pack problems in 2013-14
what year is your car?

😭😭😭unfortunately 2013

humfrz 01-28-2019 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rAySiiAnN (Post 3178510)
My car was throwing p0351 codes so i went to change the ignition coil. Afterwards i tried to start it n it started up for like 1 second n stalled out really hard lol im guessing cil 1 wont fire but idk why. i put back the old coil pack and still nothing. I tries to change the spark plugs but i got the wrong size socket, maybe touching the spark plug did something? I thought the issue was the coil pack not being bolted tight enough and fortunately i snapped the bolt :( might as well ask for help while i wait for my stripped bolt to be removed

Welcome to our forum, there rAySiiAnN - :clap:

You do realize that each of the four spark plugs has its own coil (COP - Coil On Plug)? Now that we got that out of the way.

So, was the COP that you replaced the old one with, new and right for the car?

Did you get the spark plug out? If not, it's most likely still OK.


I get the "feeling" you need to get somebody on the ground there to help you out or take your car to a shop.

;)


I hope you get er going.


humfrz

steve99 01-29-2019 12:14 AM

Check all the ignition and efi fuses


Ie any fuse designated IGxxxx or EFIxxxx

Brz_racer 01-29-2019 07:43 AM

Just so you know, the car will run without one coil connected, dont ask me how I know this...that being said if the car wont start you most likely have a fuse issue somewhere, like was said above, check all the fuses, the ones in the cabin and under the hood, you will most likely find your issue there. When you say It wont start, does it even click when you turn the key? Also if you broke the bolt for the coil that is most likely the cause of your issue, that thing needs to be fully seated to work properly. If its even a little loose you will have problems.

rAySiiAnN 01-29-2019 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Brz_racer (Post 3178987)
Just so you know, the car will run without one coil connected, dont ask me how I know this...that being said if the car wont start you most likely have a fuse issue somewhere, like was said above, check all the fuses, the ones in the cabin and under the hood, you will most likely find your issue there. When you say It wont start, does it even click when you turn the key? Also if you broke the bolt for the coil that is most likely the cause of your issue, that thing needs to be fully seated to work properly. If its even a little loose you will have problems.

It will start up normally but 2 seconds later when the rpms lower to idle (1kish) itll stall out and shake hard af �� when i give it gas itll "run" but really poorely and whenever im not pressing the gas itll spuffer n stall at idle :/ i was also thinking the problem originated because the coil pack A wasnt on tight enough which unfortunately lead to the broken bolt �� whenever i did tighten it more it seems to stall out less lol for now ive given up and had it towed to a shop :( i didnt check the ignition and efi fuses before they towed it but hopefully if it is just a fuse thanks for all the help everyone! Hoprfully itll be running again ��

ATL BRZ 01-29-2019 01:12 PM

How has nobody suggested checking the grounding bolt on the DI ECU yet? That bolt is typically removed with the others that secure the DI ECU to the passenger's side fuel rail to gain access to the passenger's side coils and plugs. If you forget to reinstall the bottom bolt, which grounds the DI ECU to the block via a horizontal bracket, the engine won't run. Even if it's not tightened enough, it will cause issues and the engine may run terribly.

humfrz 01-29-2019 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rAySiiAnN (Post 3179108)
It will start up normally but 2 seconds later when the rpms lower to idle (1kish) itll stall out and shake hard af �� when i give it gas itll "run" but really poorely and whenever im not pressing the gas itll spuffer n stall at idle :/ i was also thinking the problem originated because the coil pack A wasnt on tight enough which unfortunately lead to the broken bolt �� whenever i did tighten it more it seems to stall out less lol for now ive given up and had it towed to a shop :( i didnt check the ignition and efi fuses before they towed it but hopefully if it is just a fuse thanks for all the help everyone! Hoprfully itll be running again ��

:thumbsup:


humfrz

rAySiiAnN 01-29-2019 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 3179159)
How has nobody suggested checking the grounding bolt on the DI ECU yet? That bolt is typically removed with the others that secure the DI ECU to the passenger's side fuel rail to gain access to the passenger's side coils and plugs. If you forget to reinstall the bottom bolt, which grounds the DI ECU to the block via a horizontal bracket, the engine won't run. Even if it's not tightened enough, it will cause issues and the engine may run terribly.

Oh my god....i feel so stupid, i had my car towed to a shop for no reason -_- . All the bolts were still off the ecu when i tried to start the car. Im gonna go to the shop tmr and ask to have that done im betting thats the culprit :/ thank you oh wise one ��

ATL BRZ 01-29-2019 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rAySiiAnN (Post 3179441)
Oh my god....i feel so stupid, i had my car towed to a shop for no reason -_- . All the bolts were still off the ecu when i tried to start the car. Im gonna go to the shop tmr and ask to have that done im betting thats the culprit :/ thank you oh wise one ��

https://media.giphy.com/media/ADr35Z4TvATIc/giphy.gif

Ultramaroon 01-29-2019 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rAySiiAnN (Post 3179441)
Oh my god....i feel so stupid, i had my car towed to a shop for no reason -_- . All the bolts were still off the ecu when i tried to start the car. Im gonna go to the shop tmr and ask to have that done im betting thats the culprit :/ thank you oh wise one ��

Nevermind the haters. No pain no gain.

Tcoat 01-30-2019 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3179570)
Nevermind the haters. No pain no gain.

What haters? I see no hate at all here.

Ultramaroon 01-30-2019 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3179660)
What haters? I see no hate at all here.

It was more a statement of encouragement. https://i.imgur.com/Sywl1FK.png

humfrz 01-30-2019 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3179660)
What haters? I see no hate at all here.

Well, @ATL BRZ did a nice thing - then kind of blew it with his meme - :iono:


humfrz

humfrz 01-30-2019 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3179782)
It was more a statement of encouragement. https://i.imgur.com/Sywl1FK.png


I see no need for you to be sorry, ask ol @Tcoat about his reference to this thread, in reference to shade tree mechanics - :D


humfrz

Ultramaroon 01-30-2019 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3179793)
Well, @ATL BRZ did a nice thing - then kind of blew it with his meme - :iono:


humfrz

Oh, he was just being funny. I got that. Actually my post was misplaced because it seemed like I was responding to the meme.


This forum stuff is complicated!

humfrz 01-30-2019 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3179797)
Oh, he was just being funny. I got that. Actually my post was misplaced because it seemed like I was responding to the meme.


This forum stuff is complicated!


Take it from me, it will just get more complicated - :bonk:


humfrz

Tcoat 01-30-2019 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3179797)
Oh, he was just being funny. I got that. Actually my post was misplaced because it seemed like I was responding to the meme.


This forum stuff is complicated!

LOL That was why I wondered what haters. Thought I missed something. I don't like missing things!

Ultramaroon 01-30-2019 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3179866)
LOL That was why I wondered what haters. Thought I missed something. I don't like missing things!

I was inspired to dig up my Sorry button. :D

rAySiiAnN 01-30-2019 08:43 PM

Lol thanks to everyone for all the help and encouragement :thanks: especially :bow: @ATL_BRZ :bow: all hail the magic conch!!

humfrz 01-30-2019 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rAySiiAnN (Post 3179946)
Lol thanks to everyone for all the help and encouragement :thanks: especially :bow: @ATL_BRZ :bow: all hail the magic conch!!

That's good that you are learning about how to do mechanical/electrical stuff on your car.

We all went through the learning process.

Just ask ol @Ultramaroon about the time he replaced all the spark plug wires in his car, he took them all off, then when he went to make and install new wires, he didn't keep track of which one went to which plug - or, was that @Tcoat or @Sapphireho - I forget - :iono:


humfrz

Tcoat 01-30-2019 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3179965)
That's good that you are learning about how to do mechanical/electrical stuff on your car.

We all went through the learning process.

Just ask ol @Ultramaroon about the time he replaced all the spark plug wires in his car, he took them all off, then when he went to make and install new wires, he didn't keep track of which one went to which plug - or, was that @Tcoat or @Sapphireho - I forget - :iono:


humfrz

Wasn't me. I always mark them. I have marked them and then accidentally thrown them out but they were marked.

Ultramaroon 01-30-2019 10:55 PM

I installed a distributor 180 degrees out once.


That sucked.

Lantanafrs2 01-30-2019 11:01 PM

After installing crawford power blocks I got itchy and tried starting the car with the amplifier box hanging off. No dice. Grounds are important.

humfrz 01-30-2019 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3180002)
I installed a distributor 180 degrees out once.


That sucked.

Brings to mind a back-in-the-Army motor pool-story.

A mechanic was working on a 3/4 ton truck. It wouldn't start. The motor sergeant walked over and chewed him out for taking so long and then ask him what he had done. The sergeant listened to him trying to start the engine then told him he had put the distributor in backwards.

That was my motor officer lesson for the day - ;)


humfrz

Sapphireho 01-30-2019 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3180002)
I installed a distributor 180 degrees out once.


That sucked.

Did that on my Chevelle with offenhauser tunnel ram with two 850 double pumper carbs. Shot a flame 5 feet in the air. I was lucky didn't break or burn anything.

Ultramaroon 01-31-2019 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 3180009)
Did that on my Chevelle with offenhauser tunnel ram with two 850 double pumper carbs. Shot a flame 5 feet in the air. I was lucky didn't break or burn anything.

Yikes! Mine was considerably less spectacular - a few pops and a hot starter motor before I figured out what I had done.

humfrz 01-31-2019 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 3180009)
Did that on my Chevelle with offenhauser tunnel ram with two 850 double pumper carbs. Shot a flame 5 feet in the air. I was lucky didn't break or burn anything.

Does your Porsche have carburetors or is it FI.

Just so I need to know if I should worry about or not - :iono:


humfrz

humfrz 01-31-2019 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3180045)
Yikes! Mine was considerably less spectacular - a few pops and a hot starter motor before I figured out what I had done.

Hell, you had that engine so confused it couldn't even backfire proper - :D



humfrz

humfrz 01-31-2019 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3179965)
That's good that you are learning about how to do mechanical/electrical stuff on your car.

We all went through the learning process.

Just ask ol @Ultramaroon about the time he replaced all the spark plug wires in his car, he took them all off, then when he went to make and install new wires, he didn't keep track of which one went to which plug - or, was that @Tcoat or @Sapphireho - I forget - :iono:


humfrz

Oh, I remember who that was - IT WAS ME!

I remember I had to call my uncle and ask him what the firing order was on a stovebolt 6 - :(


daaaaaaaaa

humfrz 01-31-2019 01:57 AM

See there @rAySiiAnN - a lot of us have messed things up - learning.

humfrz

Ultramaroon 01-31-2019 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3180054)
Oh, I remember who that was - IT WAS ME!

I remember I had to call my uncle and ask him what the firing order was on a stovebolt 6 - :(


daaaaaaaaa


https://media.giphy.com/media/ADr35Z4TvATIc/giphy.gif

humfrz 01-31-2019 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3180063)

Well, at least I knew which cylinder was #1 (or did I just guess lucky - :confused0068:)


humfrz

Sapphireho 01-31-2019 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3180052)
Does your Porsche have carburetors or is it FI.

Just so I need to know if I should worry about or not - :iono:


humfrz


CIS Injection.

Tcoat 01-31-2019 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 3180150)
CIS Injection.



https://media1.tenor.com/images/a6a6...itemid=4566497




Oh wait... CIS


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