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Pake1 07-30-2012 11:32 AM

Wait for a BRZ or get an FRS now?
 
I , like many others, have placed an order for a BRZ with wait times up to next May/June 2013.

Between the two, I chose the BRZ over the FRS.

For me, the main issues are the front, the side-fender 86 logo, and the Scion badges that keep me from being content with an FRS.

However the more the uncertain the wait times, the less these things matter lol.

So did anyone cave in and buy an FRS instead? Just want to know what they "compromised" in terms of getting an FRS

Neziah 07-30-2012 11:47 AM

So basically you do not like anything that makes the FRS an FRS instead of a BRZ. LOL wait and get the car you want.

Pake1 07-30-2012 12:23 PM

Hey I do like the FRS.

If my car (242k miles) happens to break down, in the waiting time for the BRZ, I'm pretty set on getting a Whiteout FRS.

So i'm only waiting as long as my Civic lets me lol

Tanuki 07-30-2012 12:24 PM

For me, there were BRZ's available and I was willing to wait to get an FRS. It is just personal preference. No I am not a scion fan, but I still prefer the car to the BRZ. Just get what you want. Threads like this are kind of funny.

JohnATL 07-30-2012 01:58 PM

I faced the same dilemma. I first approached the Subaru dealer. The reality was they couldn't tell me when I'd get one. I then looked at the FR-S. I liked the exterior styling better on the FR-S but the HID and Interior styling on the BRZ better. I liked the price of the FR-S better and was told I could get one in 2 weeks. The choice for me was easy, FRS. I'm still smiling.

TRD_86 07-30-2012 02:14 PM

Everyone has different taste but to me the FRS has a newer, fresher front bumper design look and it look better in its own right than the few year old LFA ! With the toyota/GT86 rear badges on my pearl white, car look so stunning right now. Hey this is my opinion :)

Trojan_SC 07-30-2012 02:19 PM

Ask yourself seriously which car do you like more, regardless of badging. Badging can be changed. Mine is totally rebadged to Toyota with exception of the floor mats. I chose an FRS/86 because I totally loved the front end more than the BRZ's and I wasn't going to pay a mark-up. I liked the BRZ for the HIDs and GPS, but in the end the 86 won me over and that's what I took home.

Good luck with your decision man, and I hope you get the car you REALLY want. :happy0180:

adprokid 07-30-2012 02:35 PM

get the brz if you can wait, because its the car you wanted first, you might need to start searching for it, some other dealer might have the car

reeves 07-30-2012 02:43 PM

I'm not in a rush to buy, so I'm not pre-ordering a FR-S or BRZ.. I'm just going to wait and get the first available one at a local dealership, even if it's not for several more months. The differences to me aren't enough to sway me either way. I don't mind paying a little more for the BRZ's "luxury" amenities.. but at the same time, I also don't mind paying LESS for the FR-S without those amenities.

JohnATL 07-30-2012 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reeves (Post 347721)
I'm not in a rush to buy, so I'm not pre-ordering a FR-S or BRZ.. I'm just going to wait and get the first available one at a local dealership, even if it's not for several more months. The differences to me aren't enough to sway me either way. I don't mind paying a little more for the BRZ's "luxury" amenities.. but at the same time, I also don't mind paying LESS for the FR-S without those amenities.

Toyota Mall of Georgia has a MT Whiteout FR-S on the lot today. Last I heard it's not sold.

ngabdala 07-30-2012 03:40 PM

How badly do you need another car. If you have to wait until 2013 you should hold of until the next model.

I'm guessing you don't want the car because you think people are going to look down on you for owning a "Scion." Who cares what other people think?

Personally, I want the BRZ for the extra creature comforts and because I care what people think if I bought a Scion :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pake1 (Post 347366)
I , like many others, have placed an order for a BRZ with wait times up to next May/June 2013.

Between the two, I chose the BRZ over the FRS.

For me, the main issues are the front, the side-fender 86 logo, and the Scion badges that keep me from being content with an FRS.

However the more the uncertain the wait times, the less these things matter lol.

So did anyone cave in and buy an FRS instead? Just want to know what they "compromised" in terms of getting an FRS


reeves 07-30-2012 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnATL (Post 347726)
Toyota Mall of Georgia has a MT Whiteout FR-S on the lot today. Last I heard it's not sold.

John, I just looked in their inventory, and it's not there! :( I'll definitely give them a call when I get off work though, just to confirm..

I also only want Ultramarine or Raven.. If I'm going to wait, I might as well get the exact color I want. But I haven't test drove one yet, so I definitely want to go check it out.

Thanks for the heads up though!

JohnATL 07-30-2012 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reeves (Post 347861)
John, I just looked in their inventory, and it's not there! :( I'll definitely give them a call when I get off work though, just to confirm..

Thanks for the heads up though!

It won't be online. Call them. Ask for Robert Miller. He'll hook you up. He messaged about 2 hours ago and it's still available.

reeves 07-30-2012 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnATL (Post 347864)
It won't be online. Call them. Ask for Robert Miller. He'll hook you up. He messaged about 2 hours ago and it's still available.

Ok, awesome! I'll do that. Thanks!

rice_classic 07-30-2012 03:51 PM

It's tough. You should get what you want but you'll have to wait. So should you settle?

Let's look at it logically.

Do you need nav or a push button start?
Do you prefer the Tom Selleck front bumper of the BRZ?
Do you prefer the understeer of the BRZ?

If you answered no to these questions and the only thing holding you back from the FRS is the 86/piston badge and scion logos then the only logical answer is: Get over it. However, if you can't get over it then it proves my theory that the only reason BMW ever sold any Z3's is because they had BMW badges on them; had they not that car would have been DOA regarding sales numbers.

Buy the FRS and have a 2013 car in 2012. If you're buying a new car why would you buy a 2013 half way through 2013!? You only own it for 6 months before it's consider "a year old".

BioRage 07-30-2012 03:53 PM

Get an FR-S

Spend an extra $3k on doing a conversion.

Done!

Maybe the one next year are 2014's?

rice_classic 07-30-2012 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BioRage (Post 347875)

Maybe the one next year are 2014's?

Yes but the one he ordered now and has to wait for will be a 2013.

bimmerboy 07-30-2012 04:26 PM

there are BRZs sitting on the lot, you just have to do some grunt work to find the one you want... I'd go for the BRZ since its the car you want.

This thread should help you out http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9518

Howeber 07-30-2012 04:29 PM

I was all set on getting a BRZ, but a horrible dealership experience led me by chance to a Toyota dealer in the same compound. Got a FR-S for about 2 grand less than the BRZ I was looking at across the street (BRZ was marked up, FR-S was not).

It all worked out for the better, as I didn't want the Nav and HID's anyway. I'd rather spend that money elsewhere.

chipz91 07-30-2012 04:51 PM

I chose the FR-S because Its the same thing as a BRZ. Only difference is the interior and exterior, just by a little bit. Plus with Scion, the price you see is the price you get, unlike subaru. When I wanted to pre order, they told me it would be an extra $5k over sticker price. They said because " Its a limited car ". If I wanted pay $30K+ for a BRZ, I'd rather go with an STI, More HP and Turbo. You cant go wrong with an FR-S.

Pake1 07-30-2012 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 347871)
It's tough. You should get what you want but you'll have to wait. So should you settle?

Let's look at it logically.

Do you need nav or a push button start?
Do you prefer the Tom Selleck front bumper of the BRZ?
Do you prefer the understeer of the BRZ?

If you answered no to these questions and the only thing holding you back from the FRS is the 86/piston badge and scion logos then the only logical answer is: Get over it. However, if you can't get over it then it proves my theory that the only reason BMW ever sold any Z3's is because they had BMW badges on them; had they not that car would have been DOA regarding sales numbers.

Buy the FRS and have a 2013 car in 2012. If you're buying a new car why would you buy a 2013 half way through 2013!? You only own it for 6 months before it's consider "a year old".


:word:

I also called a Toyota dealership and I can qualify for the 1k off grad rebate.


I've been driving a car with none of those creature comforts, so i don't necessarily NEED it, but would definitely like an upgrade now that I can afford too.

Yes I prefer the BRZ front, (the Tom Selleck Front:bow:).

I have driven the FRS about 7 times and loved it each time. I'm guessing I could put navi + HIDs in myself.

I'll choose to play the waiting game, as months go on, I'm hoping it''ll be easier to obtain a BRZ by november-ish.

But that FRS.. is waiting to be bought

tripjammer 07-30-2012 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnATL (Post 347864)
It won't be online. Call them. Ask for Robert Miller. He'll hook you up. He messaged about 2 hours ago and it's still available.

Its there, and its an in coming car...coming into the dealership on 8/1/12

Priced at MSRP: $25,533

86design 07-30-2012 05:05 PM

I'm a BRZ owner and I could of done the first 86 program but I really wanted the BRZ instead cause of its few more options!

LED DLR

LED half angel eyes

HID with moving adjuster

Navi system, bluetooth

Those 4 things just got me to wait on the BRZ...dont get me wrong the FRS is beautiful but I came from a Evo 10 and I wanted the same options...... The wait is the only thing that was killing lol

tripjammer 07-30-2012 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pake1 (Post 348006)
:word:

I also called a Toyota dealership and I can qualify for the 1k off grad rebate.


I've been driving a car with none of those creature comforts, so i don't necessarily NEED it, but would definitely like an upgrade now that I can afford too.

Yes I prefer the BRZ front, (the Tom Selleck Front:bow:).

I have driven the FRS about 7 times and loved it each time. I'm guessing I could put navi + HIDs in myself.

I'll choose to play the waiting game, as months go on, I'm hoping it''ll be easier to obtain a BRZ by november-ish.

But that FRS.. is waiting to be bought

Toyota GT86 HIDS - $2000
Toyota GT86 Airbag\Steering wheel cover - $800
A good aftermarket NAV - $700-800
Toyota\GT86 badges - $100

You could do a HID retrofit for like $400 and have better hids that the bRZ or stock GT86, plus be legal.

I think the fun thing is to that a FR-S and turn it into the GT86. Thats why I am leaning back towards the FR-S.

tripjammer 07-30-2012 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86design (Post 348024)
I'm a BRZ owner and I could of done the first 86 program but I really wanted the BRZ instead cause of its few more options!

LED DLR

LED half angel eyes

HID with moving adjuster

Navi system, bluetooth

Those 4 things just got me to wait on the BRZ...dont get me wrong the FRS is beautiful but I came from a Evo 10 and I wanted the same options...... The wait is the only thing that was killing lol

True and the BRZ is only $1300 more...its really the better deal. Also if you wait, you will end up with the 2014 model BRZ. May 2013 is not that far off...hehe. Heck the 2014 FR-S will probably have HIDS and a better stereo, oh and there will be a release series coming soon too...

Pake1 07-30-2012 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86design (Post 348024)
I'm a BRZ owner and I could of done the first 86 program but I really wanted the BRZ instead cause of its few more options!

LED DLR

LED half angel eyes

HID with moving adjuster

Navi system, bluetooth

Those 4 things just got me to wait on the BRZ...dont get me wrong the FRS is beautiful but I came from a Evo 10 and I wanted the same options...... The wait is the only thing that was killing lol

Are the angel eye LEDs on ALL BRZs or only the limiteds?


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