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Twin-Dragons 11-02-2018 02:06 PM

The BEST Top Tier Gas For Our Cars
 
Now before you say "not this thread again", yes, i understand, im sure this has been posted many times, but since our car has been out for 6 years now, it would be a good time to make a thread about which gas is better, since more people have experimented over the years..



That being said, for the people who live in the USA (not sure about canadian gas), which gas brand works better in our cars, in terms of better gas mileage, less knocking, smoother idles, and better performance.

And yes, i know, it's all the same gas, but im talking about which gas has the best additives...

I added a poll

Tcoat 11-02-2018 02:11 PM

Brand has little to with it and fuel is not consistent from region to region anyway. Just get the newest fuel you can find no matter what brand and all is good.

mav1178 11-02-2018 02:25 PM

you should read the list.

https://toptiergas.com/licensed-brands/

"Top Tier Gas" only means it has to meet a level of additives. Branding doesn't matter on the retail level.

Sapphireho 11-02-2018 02:29 PM

Here, all gas comes from the same refinery, and none of the brands add enough of anything to matter. For example, years ago Porsche did a study of fuel additives. They determined that the Chevron Techron was the best and actually worked, however, Chevron doesn't put enough of it in the fuel to do anything. If you want the cleaning of Techron you have to buy bottles of it (yes, they do sell it, and it is expensive) and add it.


Again, it is all the same. Buy the cheapest at the station that has turnover.


And "Top Tier" is a marketing gimmick.

stevesnj 11-02-2018 04:58 PM

Sunoco 93 since day 1

Akari 11-02-2018 05:06 PM

I usually just go for high-volume stations that are affordable.

Been running mostly Costco 92 (They do so much volume that they refill their tanks twice a day), have had 0 issues and my FI tuner was able to get a few more degrees of timing than normal.

If you experience any performance issues, knocking, or unsmooth idle, especially NA, then there's a pretty major problem with the fuel you're getting.

Spuds 11-02-2018 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevesnj (Post 3151403)
Sunoco 93 since day 1

Yeah, I've noticed less knock correction on Sunoco in MD-PA than others. Used to like Shell but half the time my IAM drops when running it. Could just be the local stations though. Not enough traveling data to see a trend elsewhere.

milanojess 11-02-2018 05:10 PM

All said and true, most first tier brands have consistent quality fuel, while no name brands often suffer with less performance, check engine when pushed, etc. ive seen these behavior with Costco, Valero, and other no name gas disguised as shell. The last one apparently took over an old shell station and pumped unknown gas. I was puzzled why I wasn’t able to reach expected speed until I returned to gas station next day in day light... went to gas up at nearby major gas and had no problem getting to top gear before turn 8 on willow springs.

arkanist 11-02-2018 05:12 PM

My tuner told me to go with Chevron, so I do.

wolffbite 11-02-2018 07:08 PM

The manual says 93, or 91 if that's all that is available so I go by highest octane available from stations with high fuel turnover.

So... Chevron 94 for me (ethanol free).

Bonburner 11-02-2018 07:15 PM

For my engine, I've felt Chevron being the smoothest.
But I don't fill them because they're so pricey.

I fill Shell (2nd best for my engine) because of their fuel rewards program giving me $0.05 off each fill and the occasional extra $0.25 from T-Mobile Tuesday. I've saved $100.16 ever since I've started ... 2 or 3 years ago?.

Impureclient 11-02-2018 07:22 PM

Since the last cricket fix I had done a couple years ago I've only ever ran Chevron 93 and the chirp has stayed gone so I'm sticking with that.

Decep 11-02-2018 07:38 PM

These are mass produced engines that aren't really anything special... any decent gas station where the gas doesn't sit for months should be fine.

Teseo 11-02-2018 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolffbite (Post 3151474)
The manual says 93, or 91 if that's all that is available so I go by highest octane available from stations with high fuel turnover.

So... Chevron 94 for me (ethanol free).

So jelly, how much per liter?

humfrz 11-02-2018 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decep (Post 3151490)
These are mass produced engines that aren't really anything special... any decent gas station where the gas doesn't sit for months should be fine.

:slap: - YOU Decep, just take the fun out of ALL of these kinds of threads!

:D


humfrz

wolffbite 11-02-2018 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 3151495)
So jelly, how much per liter?

Filled up last week at $1.67/L CAD. For comparison, lowest octane 87 is around $1.35-$1.45/L these days.

Drive an hour out of town and you can take ~$0.20 off those prices due to the transit levies we have in town.

PetrolioBenzina 11-02-2018 08:10 PM

E95, 2.99/gallon.

stevesnj 11-02-2018 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3151499)
:slap: - YOU Decep, just take the fun out of ALL of these kinds of threads!

:D


humfrz


Yeh he's a

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accwai 11-02-2018 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolffbite (Post 3151501)
Filled up last week at $1.67/L CAD. For comparison, lowest octane 87 is around $1.35-$1.45/L these days.

:eyebulge: Petro-Canada Ultra 94 (up to 10% ethanol) was $1.449/L yesterday here at the GTA. Regular was like $1.18/L if I recall.

wolffbite 11-02-2018 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by accwai (Post 3151536)
:eyebulge: Petro-Canada Ultra 94 (up to 10% ethanol) was $1.449/L yesterday here at the GTA. Regular was like $1.18/L if I recall.

West coast cost of living can be brutal... BC = Bring Cash.

highway7 11-03-2018 02:07 AM

Used to put 93 Esso, now 94 Petro


Feels a bit better than 91 but that could be just my butt dyno out of alignment. Tried Shell 91 and it feels like driving with the AC on.

Adam_L 11-03-2018 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3151331)
Brand has little to with it and fuel is not consistent from region to region anyway. Just get the newest fuel you can find no matter what brand and all is good.

How do you know which fuel in your area is the "newest" ? I've never seen a expiration date on gas before.

As for Chevron with tehcron , you can buy techron separately , and add that to a full tank of gas ( 1-2 times per year is great). Chevron here in CA the last 1-2 years, no matter where you go is .10-.20 cents more expensive then Shell.

Wonder if this thread will get shut down, like that Battery thread that got started 2-3 days ago. What a waist of posting… good info!?!?!?

Tcoat 11-03-2018 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam_L (Post 3151592)
How do you know which fuel in your area is the "newest" ? I've never seen a expiration date on gas before.

As for Chevron with tehcron , you can buy techron separately , and add that to a full tank of gas ( 1-2 times per year is great). Chevron here in CA the last 1-2 years, no matter where you go is .10-.20 cents more expensive then Shell.

Wonder if this thread will get shut down, like that Battery thread that got started 2-3 days ago. What a waist of posting… good info!?!?!?

Pick a busy station. Figured that was pretty obvious without explanation but guess not.

Miss-information and urban legend is never "good info".

No thread gets shut down without good reason.

extrashaky 11-03-2018 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam_L (Post 3151592)
How do you know which fuel in your area is the "newest" ? I've never seen a expiration date on gas before.

Just don't buy from the weird off-brand station in a strange location that gets so little traffic that you wonder how they are staying in business. They might have bought stale fuel to begin with and then let it sit in the tanks for weeks because nobody's buying it.

If you buy from a station doing business under a reputable brand in a location that gets decent traffic, you'll be fine. You can tell the difference. People make way too big a deal out of what's the "best" fuel.

WNDSRFR 11-03-2018 08:42 AM

I've always used the cheapest 93 octane I can find. Just about never top tier. And I've NEVER had crickets. I think additives are what causes crickets. And I'm over 150,000 miles.

new2subaru 11-03-2018 08:49 AM

If you see a tanker truck there regularly it's likely a good location to buy fuel. :D

humfrz 11-03-2018 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WNDSRFR (Post 3151616)
I've always used the cheapest 93 octane I can find. Just about never top tier. And I've NEVER had crickets. I think additives are what causes crickets. And I'm over 150,000 miles.

Do you use the hearing assisted headphones when you go to the movie theater or do you just cup your hands behind your ears?

Just checking. My FR-S doesn't have crickets either - :)


humfrz

Impureclient 11-03-2018 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WNDSRFR (Post 3151616)
I've always used the cheapest 93 octane I can find. Just about never top tier. And I've NEVER had crickets. I think additives are what causes crickets. And I'm over 150,000 miles.

Yeah yeah and girls don't poop.

Dadhawk 11-03-2018 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3151597)
Pick a busy station. Figured that was pretty obvious without explanation but guess not....

That's pretty much what I do. In the area I live that is either QT or Racetrac. Most "name brand" stations here have way less traffic then these two.

OwlDance 11-03-2018 05:24 PM

Hard to say for me since I've only used a single station so far but I'm simply using 93 shell, nitro power V+ yaddi yadda. No engine related issues, runs and sounds really smooth. When my vacuum pump isn't rattling (getting that checked out wednesday, woo). It contains 10% ethanol according to the pump, but I've been thankful enough to avoid the crickets after roughly 1400 miles on the odometer.

RToyo86 11-03-2018 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by accwai (Post 3151536)
:eyebulge: Petro-Canada Ultra 94 (up to 10% ethanol) was $1.449/L yesterday here at the GTA. Regular was like $1.18/L if I recall.

Regular is 1.05 today here in ottawa for regular.
It was almost 1.40 only a few months ago.

Adam_L 11-04-2018 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3151597)
Pick a busy station. Figured that was pretty obvious without explanation but guess not.

I don't hang out at gas stations long enough to know what is "busy". I don't know any gas station workers, and I tend not to converse with people /workers at gas stations (I'm in+ out as fast as I can be). I tend to drive by them quickly, take a glance to see how many cars are there at a specific moment in time ( 3-8 seconds), then I'm off. In my county, I know the best 2-4 gas stations to go to, and I stick to that. Going out of county is/ can be a roll of the dice, as I'm not that familiar with stations 100 miles north or south of me.

That's really one of the only few instances that I consider my life as being "fast"

extrashaky 11-04-2018 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OwlDance (Post 3151721)
It contains 10% ethanol according to the pump, but I've been thankful enough to avoid the crickets after roughly 1400 miles on the odometer.

Ethanol has nothing to do with crickets. I had them even on ethanol-free gas.

It's the regional/seasonal blend and additive package. Mine is more likely to chirp on winter blend gasoline, which has butane in it. It also chirps like an entire forest if I use Sam's Club gas. My fuel pump really doesn't like whatever additives they put into their gas (or leave out of it).

Since you can't really know what is in the gas, all you can really do is keep an ear on your fuel pump and become a repeat customer at the station(s) where it's quieter. Even then, it's possible to have a quiet fuel pump on a particular gas, then have it change when the blend changes in the fall or spring.

MrDinkleman 11-05-2018 05:14 AM

Chevron is the only gas so far that gets rid of the crickets in mine. Performance wise, I dont notice much difference.

BellaItalia 11-05-2018 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highway7 (Post 3151584)
Tried Shell 91 and it feels like driving with the AC on.

interesting about shell gas, noticed over the last 5-8 years in different autos that the shell always seemed underpowered, not to bash shell, but hard to burn all those soap additives... but it sure does clean !! use it for your mower, Ha
...on a more SERIOUS note, will try the Sunoco in Burnet to see what they have, and a web entry from last year mentioned the Sunoco in Austin had non-ethanol and 100 octane (we believe everything we read on the web LOL)
>>>will report back<<<
may also check the Sunoco in Marble Falls
BTW, did use one once in florida in a pickup, with their non-e sold for boats, it was GREAT
oh, yeah (haha) i use costco or esso (exxon for you pups)

Spectral Entity 11-06-2018 10:31 AM

The best mileage I had out of my car was using 100% gasoline. At first I was able to get 93 octane, then they only offered 91 octane where I fuelled.

After I moved, I began using Mapco 93 octane for awhile, then switched to Costco 93 octane. The car seemed to like Costco, so I used it all the way up until the wreck.

YMMV, but my suggestion is if you have a 100% gasoline station, try it out.

stevesnj 11-06-2018 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 3152013)
Ethanol has nothing to do with crickets. I had them even on ethanol-free gas.

It's the regional/seasonal blend and additive package. Mine is more likely to chirp on winter blend gasoline, which has butane in it. It also chirps like an entire forest if I use Sam's Club gas. My fuel pump really doesn't like whatever additives they put into their gas (or leave out of it).

Since you can't really know what is in the gas, all you can really do is keep an ear on your fuel pump and become a repeat customer at the station(s) where it's quieter. Even then, it's possible to have a quiet fuel pump on a particular gas, then have it change when the blend changes in the fall or spring.

This has been discussed at length and YES ethanol IS a factor to the crickets. Also high ambient temps were a factor. The internals of the pump are not designed to handle those conditions and were redesigned to counter those factors. Even some replaced pumps had crickets. But the fix is 90% effective.

PetrolioBenzina 11-06-2018 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevesnj (Post 3152618)
This has been discussed at length and YES ethanol IS a factor to the crickets. Also high ambient temps were a factor. The internals of the pump are not designed to handle those conditions and were redesigned to counter those factors. Even some replaced pumps had crickets. But the fix is 90% effective.

No crickets here on E85-95. I do get them running Chevron gas every now and then.

g e 11-06-2018 07:10 PM

I pump Devil Piss and car go like Hell

Leonardo 11-06-2018 07:18 PM

IMO, 87octane is total shit and gas with ethanol is total shit.


I exclusively run clear premium. I have CFN and Pacific pride gas cards though...


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