VSC Sport and Trac Off don't work
 

I don't have a check engine light or any other warning lights, and I'm not sure what the issue is. Anyone have any ideas?

Is it that the VSC Sport and Trac Off, won't turn off, or won't turn on?
You'd need to give more information. Is it just not notifying you that it's off?
Or you feel no difference driving it after pushing the buttons?

I hit the buttons and lights don't appear on the gauge cluster as they should. I believe the traction control is set to on, I've tried drifting and it inhibits rear wheel spin still. Maybe the lights in the gauge are busted, I'll have to try it as though the lights just don't work and see what happens. Hold for 5 seconds.. you know.

Are you pushing the buttons at low speed or fully stopped?

You need to HOLD just the TRAC OFF button down for 3 full seconds. The two lights you should be getting are both yellow. They will be located just to the left of the Temperature and Fuel gauge. The top one should say "TRAC OFF" and the bottom one should have a symbol of a car on some squiggly lines and the word OFF underneath it. If you have one yellow and one green light, then you haven't done it properly, and you're only in VSC Sport mode, which I find to be rather pointless.

To engage that full-off mode, you don't have to be stopped, or moving slowly. You can do it at any speed. If you have both yellow lights on, and it's still stepping in, then something is wrong with the car.

EDIT: To clarify, after reading your post again. VSC Sport Mode WILL still exert a lot of control over the car. It is universally known to be pretty over-bearing. If you're really trying to hoon the car, you need to do what I stated above. VSC Sport Mode often doesn't allow you to do much of anything before stepping in, which is why they revised it to a Track Mode with slightly increased limits on the refreshed 2017 cars.

I'm not sure it's a good idea to help this individual drift his car.

Especially if they can't figure out how to turn off TC via buttons or pedal dance by themselves

Well when I bought this car I never had any vehicle with TSC, I had to google how to turn it off in order to rip my first donut.

Your car comes with instructions that explain, in great detail, how every single function in the car works. No Googling necessary!

OEM Manual - TL;DR


But, a 30 second google search showed me the way back in 2012... :burnrubber:

Thats my point. If you cant use Google or read the manual I dont have high hopes

it s not true what you're saying, to engage TRC full off mode you need to be at less than 49-50 km/h (30-31 mph) otherwise nothing happens
Track (VSC) mode yes, will do at any speed

No. What I said was correct. Perhaps I wasn't clear. When I said "that full-off mode" I was referring to the mode I had just described in my post, which is accessible by holding the TRAC OFF button down for 3 full seconds, to fully defeat both driver aids. That mode can be accessed at ANY speed.

So, to say it again more clearly: You can hold down the TRAC OFF button for 3 seconds at ANY speed to fully disable traction and stability control.

What you are referring to is just the normal "TRAC OFF" mode accessed by only briefly pressing the TRAC OFF button. This mode is only accessible up to ~30 MPH because it isn't designed to be used above 30 MPH. It is only meant to be used in slick conditions/when you want a bit of wheelspin off the line.

Neither of the buttons by the gearstick will fully disengage the various traction/stability control systems and so I don't really get the button of having them both.

The one on the left will allow a little more slip before panicking and turning everything "back on" again, even though it was never really off.

The one on the right which you have to press and hold for a couple of seconds will allow a lot more slip if you *really* provoke it but it will *still* intervene some what.

Somewhat disappointing.

That's not true.

You need to hold the button on the LEFT down for 3 seconds. That will allow you to hoon the car to heart's desire without intervening. I can do donuts, snownuts, autocross, ice racing, and all manner of smoky shenanigans all day long in that mode without the car intervening. See my first post in this thread. If you don't have JUST the two yellow lights on on your dash (WITHOUT the green light) then you haven't found the correct mode yet.

Because you have no gravity on the moon.

5 years :bonk:

Let's be real, driving the car is much more fun than reading the manual right after buying it.

If only there was a document that would tell us what is correct.

I'll give it another go!

I've tried it in both conditions.

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Thanks I'm familiar with the function of both of these buttons. I think this thread has gotten off Trac.. [emoji23]

The buttons seem to make no change to how the car drives, as well not giving me an indicator light on the gauge cluster as they should l when these buttons are used.

I don't know what's going on. I'd post a video of it but this forum has terrible limits to uploading media.

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If NO lights are coming on, its possible the switches have become unplugged. You can easily check. Grab the shifter trim along the inside edge (where the boot meets the plastic trim ring) and give it a firm tug and it will come out.

Thanks for confirming for me! I was gonna screenshot it but I was too lazy.

Whats REALLY fun is knowing about the vehicle you are driving.

I'll give it a try right now and see what's going on under there. Thanks. I'll reply back after

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UMMMM Stang, it says the car needs to be stopped. As in not moving at any speed.

Did you recently do any work on the car?

I thought you were referring to which button to hold, lol. The car doesn't need to be stopped. Try it and report back to me ;) Its a "procedural" statement written by lawyers. I PROMISE you, you dont have to be stopped or even moving slowly. I would go take video right now and post it but my car is currently disassembled in my garage getting sound deadener installed, lol.

It worked! I pulled shift boot cover off and yeah, the cable wasn't plugged into the button housing. It clicked into place pretty solidly, I don't know how that could have come undone. The indicator lights now correctly appear in the gauge cluster when I hit the buttons. Thanks for the help!

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I'm glad it worked out! Now all I need is Tcoat to report back with his findings for a complete victory! :D

no. try it and come back and you can say to me I was right : -)
i know exactly which mode you re talking about, do not worry



maybe your car is different. I have a 2017 and if i press 3-4 even 7 seconds the trc off button when speed over 30 mph, full-off mode doesnt activate. I know because I tried even 10 minutes ago


Since i m reading now you re car is unavailable, I guess i ll upload a video of it not working like you re saying

They must have changed it for the 2017 refresh. They did recalibrate the stability control for them. I'm not speaking hypothetically. I do it all the time in my 2015 on the highway. I've even done it at 50 MPH in the middle of an autocross run. I can report back in this thread with a video after the weekend if all goes to plan if you want hard proof, lol. 2017s suck!

I must admit I have never tried while moving and always just push it when stopped. Never bothered since the instructions say to be stopped so figured it wouldn't work.

ehm..... feel like an idiot :-)
so SORRY


you are right. it does work at any speed, when i tried 2 times hours ago I guess I didnt push long enough and/or pushed in a bad way


funny thing is since i have the car i tried so many times and never go it working, i just gave up and was so sure it wouldn t work.. sorry again :iono:

Lol, all good! I just wanted to get the truth out there! :D

Same here.. After almost 5 years it never occurred to me to try this while the car's still moving. I had to step out for a 10-minute drive just to try this (and also because it just starting raining, and this is the first time in a month I'll have a chance to drive in hard rain). Works like a charm! :D

Have to admit though, I've also never bothered to do the pedal dance to turn off the nannies. This does the same thing as the pedal dance, correct?

Nope. Pedal dance enters a diagnostic mode with additional features disabled (including-but-not-limited-to electronic brake force distribution IIRC).

I can put mine into sport mode while moving, but I can't turn the SC or TC off (the long press option) while moving. I have to come to a stop, long press THEN do my donuts.

Sport mode does affect the traction system. It is not as aggressive as having the system on the regular mode and changes the balance of the SC system to bias more to the rear. With the system in regular mode if you slide at all, it steps in and makes sure you don't. If you are in sport mode, you can kick the rear end out a little

Interesting. I have a 2016 MT and I have never been able to go full off while at over 30-something MPH (left button, long press). I always have to drop below 30MPH for it to work. Must be a difference in certain years.